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      • ruaok
        hey kids...

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      • ruaok
        you guys know somafm.com ??

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      • ruaok
        one of my favorite net radio stations out there...

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      • ruaok
        They just donated $50.

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      • jwatk03
        kewl

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      • ruaok
        Your service (and IEatBrainz) is an amazing timesaver for us!

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      • ruaok
        that was included with the donation.

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      • jwatk03
        :)

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      • ruaok
        I think that is a good sign -- SomaFM are good people.

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      • tma
        y'ello

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      • tma
        hi Pipian

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      • Pipian
        hi

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      • Pipian
        Finally got back from a 2-day recover-an-old-hard-driver-or-at-least-whatever-i-can outing

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      • tma
        oh? how'd it go?

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      • tma
        2 days!

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      • Pipian
        yeah

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      • Pipian
        Had to go through several rounds to convince the software to look for the files I wanted.

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      • Pipian
        Couldn't get all of them as some of them were on the dead parts

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      • Pipian
        and others were fragmented (and since the FAT was one of the major dead parts, there was no way to defragment)

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      • tma
        erk, not fun. I remember recovering a hard drive by hand once when the FAT got screwed up when I had a lockup during partition magic

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      • tma
        that taught me a big lesson about overclocking. ;)

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      • tma
        Pipian: what's your mb handle?

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      • tma
        Pipian: nm, I got it. Literal "Pipian", not "pipian"

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      • djce
        tma: are you around?

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        hmm.. shopping, so says chatlogs. nice.

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      • sterling.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz: MBChatLogger psychopath_mind djce bramp knight- danbri _thom_ real-afk Knio alus icepick-away soccos Misirlou ruaok ernie tma Pipian sbw_ibiblio MostWanted elinenbe somnolent blizzow

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      • tma is back (gone 01:17:54)

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      • tma
        djce: hi

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      • tma
        brb

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      • tma
        djce: the mailman pages don't cope with non-existant users gracefully

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      • tma
        hi matthias

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      • yalaforge
        hey tarragon. good morning!

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      • tma
        and good evening to you. :)

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      • yalaforge
        :-)

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      • yalaforge
        I read your postings on the list, especially the 'design over grammar' part

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      • tma
        yes ..

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      • yalaforge
        perhaps it would help to display old moderations on the edit track page

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      • yalaforge
        that way you also have the mod notes available

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      • tma
        that would be helpful, but might produce undue load on the server ..

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      • yalaforge
        yes, right

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      • yalaforge looks

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      • yalaforge
        hm, a select over the whole moderation_all table would be required

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      • yalaforge
        which is quite a beast

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      • tma
        do it would be quite a heavy ask of the server to pull that information out each time a track mod is being entered

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      • tma
        s/do/so/

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      • yalaforge
        yup. and the server is already under high load

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      • tma
        I thought that was to be resolved with the extra RAM, or was that only the TRM server?

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      • yalaforge
        the question is, how many edits do we have compared to normal database lookup

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      • yalaforge
        I bet it isn't that much, perhaps a few thousand a day

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      • yalaforge
        the extra RAM bought us some time, that's all

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      • tma
        definitely worth playing with, at any rate

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      • tma
        what's required? a server farm?

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      • yalaforge
        that would be cool ;-)

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      • yalaforge
        at least put the trm server on a different machine

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      • tma
        oh? I thought it already was!?

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      • yalaforge
        but it's not just buying a new server. hosting is expensive, too

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      • yalaforge
        nope

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      • yalaforge
        both postgres and the trm server run on bender

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      • tma
        yeah

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      • tma
        I can probably get cost-rate hosting through my work

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      • tma
        I don't know if it'll be that cost effective against some of the places in the US though

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      • yalaforge
        hm, better ask ruaok in that case

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      • tma
        oic, apache runs on it's own machine

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      • yalaforge
        I can only repeat what was discussed here :-)

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      • yalaforge
        yup, on zim, IIRC

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      • djce is back

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      • tma wonders if much would be gained moving postgres to zim

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      • yalaforge
        wb

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      • tma
        hi dave

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      • tma
        you were looking for me?

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      • djce
        hi

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      • djce
        "<tma> djce: the mailman pages don't cope with non-existant users gracefully"

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      • djce
        what do you mean?

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      • tma
        btw : http://moto-coda.org/webcam/index.html

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      • djce waves to the picture

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      • tma
        in case you were wondering what I looked like, or just want to check if I'm at the computer or not :)

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      • djce
        Also I wanted to talk about the automod voting stuff

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      • tma
        djce: I meant that I was trying to query whether I was subscribed to some of the lists, and if I wasn't subscribed it gave me "there is a bug in mailman" page rather than telling me I wasn't subscribed

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      • djce
        hmmm. ok.

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      • djce
        I'll try and find the error log later.

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      • tma
        1. Go to http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/mus…

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      • djce
        error log empty. ho hum.

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      • tma
        2. enter "lists [at n12turbo.com]" into the "unsubscribe or edit options" part (minus the quotes of course)

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      • tma
        3. ????

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      • tma
        4. Profit

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      • tma
        er, sorry, I mean 3. Bug page

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      • yalaforge
        lol

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      • djce
        I see it.

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      • djce
        well there is a new version of mailman. We could upgrade if we felt it was necessary.

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      • djce
        running 2.1.4, latest 2.1.5

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      • djce
        So, automod stuff.

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      • djce
        http://cuthbert.rudolf.org.uk:8080/user/election/

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      • tma
        if it's not too hard, and won't break things, and will fix the problem, sure. :)