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      • wolfsong
        i don't see it in the stle guide...are ampersands valid?
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      • wolfsong
        *style
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      • Misirlou
        . . . You'll have to write them as & in XML . . .
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      • melange
        hi
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      • ruaok
        hey
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      • ruaok
        how is the roomie and cat??
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      • melange
        oh, they're fine
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      • melange
        my housemate has been committed, again
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      • melange
        but that's probably a good thing
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      • melange
        cat's doing well
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      • ruaok
        good about the cat.
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      • ruaok
        not so good about the roomie?
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      • ruaok
        She depressed?
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      • melange
        very.
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      • ruaok
        no bueno.
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      • ruaok
        over here people pop all sorts of pills for that.
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      • melange
        she's diagnosed full clinical depression, has been like that for a while .. had it on and off since her teens
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      • ruaok
        how is the mindset in .au?
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      • melange
        much the same, trying out different drugs. Also ECT, possibly.
      • 2004-02-06 03718, 2004

      • melange
        we tend to favour counselling over drugs, but it depends on the illness and the psych
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      • ruaok
        good.
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      • ruaok
        here is the opposite.
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      • melange
        as she's been diagnosed with a serious brain dysfunction, counselling isn't really going to do much.
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      • melange
        pizza's arrived
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      • melange
        brb
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      • melange
        back
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      • ruaok
        bon appetit.
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      • ruaok
        ugh brain dysfunction -- sounds nasty
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      • melange
        well, that basically just means that her brain produces the wrong chemicals, and so she feels extremely depressed all the time, although she is quite able to intellectually know that there's nothing wrong
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      • melange
        true "clinical" depression
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      • melange
        no trigger, nothing particularly wrong in her life .. :-/
      • 2004-02-06 03734, 2004

      • melange
        just down all the time
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      • ruaok
        is she taking meds now?
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      • melange
        yeah, they've been trying a few different ones. haven't been helping much
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      • ruaok
        finding the right one is the key. And that is challenging.
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      • melange
        it's generally a matter of trying different types until they get the right one
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      • melange
        yep
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      • melange
        I'm not sure there's much to say about it, but how are your friends in Germany doing?
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      • ruaok
        coping.
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      • ruaok
        not much else to be done.
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      • ruaok
        waiting for the cops to get their heads out of their asses so they can get the goodbye letter..
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      • melange
        hmm, that's rough
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      • melange
        did you get the ok for the amazon thing?
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      • ruaok
        no.
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      • ruaok
        they are bugging their lawyers to get the final answer by next friday.
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      • melange
        ok
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      • ruaok
        That's why the release is sched for the day after vday.
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      • ruaok
        If they get a no back from the lawyers then CCCP is in for some big changes.
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      • ruaok
        I don't think anyone wants to see that.
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      • melange
        as far as I'm concerned, "not for profit" simply means that. It doesn't mean you can't make money, it just means that you aren't aiming to turn a profit.
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      • melange
        if not-for-profits can't earn money, then it makes things a bit difficult, eh
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      • ruaok
        I'm with you.
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      • ruaok
        And I think everyone else is -- including the IRS.
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      • ruaok
        Q is whether or not they will get into trouble with Hurricane Electric.
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      • melange
        I mean, my old job was doing tech support/systems admin for a non-for-profit ISP
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      • ruaok
        wow -- really?
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      • ruaok
        small world.
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      • melange
        the ISP side made money, which in turn pumped the money into the community sector, which was the primary focus for the business
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      • ruaok
        good.
      • 2004-02-06 03737, 2004

      • ruaok
        that's all I want to do.
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      • melange
        so, at least in Australia, it's perfectly fine for a not-for-profit company to make money
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      • ruaok
        it is here as well.
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      • melange
        damn. I've got about 20+ mods I need to clarify. They aren't getting votes.
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      • ruaok
        lemme look.
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      • melange
        meh, and some are just inconsistent. that's what I get for fixing up almost every release by one artist in one sitting
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      • melange
        brb
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      • melange
        back
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      • melange
        I should have done this before : my housemate has 9 or so albums by Front 242, I can double check the listings against the discographies and against MB now
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      • ruaok
        :-)
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      • melange
        combined with what I own as well, I can cover most of the releases
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      • melange
        what's your opinion on releases that are re-released and the song titles are slightly changed?
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      • ruaok
        ugh.
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      • ruaok
        are the track durations the same?
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      • melange
        for example : Back Catalogue by Front 242, early release has titles one way, later release has titles the other way.
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      • melange
        the tracks are exaactly the same
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      • melange
        Back Catalogue is a compilation album ..
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      • ruaok
        what is one way vs the other way.
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      • melange
        the original release of the tracks is "S. Fr. Nomenklatura" (I + II)
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      • melange
        one of the versions of Back Catalogue drops the "S. FR."
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      • ruaok
        Personally, I'd go with the first version and stick with it.
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      • melange
        same ..
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      • melange
        just wanted a second opinion
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      • melange
        :)
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      • melange
        do you prefer "V1.0" or "v1.0"?
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      • ruaok
        v1.0
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      • melange
        all the track names are in upper case
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      • ruaok
        Ick.
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      • melange
        good, that's how I did it
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      • melange
        someone has put them is as "(version 1.0)". The track title just has "V1.0" etc
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      • melange
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      • melange
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      • melange
        I'm not sure I like either way, now
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      • ruaok
        [:Re:Boot: (L. IV. E. ])
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      • ruaok
        parser error: mismatched ()
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      • ruaok
        parser error: mismatched []
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      • melange
        ?
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      • ruaok
        parser error: humans suck
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      • ruaok
        :-)
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      • ruaok
        The [ ( ] ) is not proper in ANY context.
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      • ruaok
        Well, it should follow the album as closely as possible -- that's the primary rule.
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      • melange
        it's literal from the album though
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      • ruaok
        Then go with that.
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      • melange
        "'98" or "1998" isn't even part of the title
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      • melange
        and doesn't make sense, as it was recorded in 1997 and 1998
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      • melange
        it was just *released* in 1998
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      • melange
        gah
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      • melange
        annoying. pretty much everywhere refers to it as just "re:boot live" or similar, they drop the brackets and extra spacing/colons
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      • melange
        amazon just have it as "Re-Boot"
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      • melange
        oh wait, they have it as "Re-Boot: Live '98 [LIVE]"
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      • melange
        personally, I'd tag mine as "Re-Boot Live"
      • 2004-02-06 03735, 2004

      • melange
        or "Re:Boot Live"
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      • melange
        what do you think?
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      • ruaok
        Re:Boot gets my bote
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      • ruaok
        vote
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      • melange
        interesting .. the record label lists it just as "Re:Boot"
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      • melange
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      • melange
        I think I'll go with that. "Live" shouldn't be part of the title, yes? It's implied by the album type anyway.
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      • ruaok
        yep
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      • melange
        pity the original record label (Lightning Records) is now defunct
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      • melange wonders if he's being too obssesive about a damn album title
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      • melange
        for crying out loud
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      • melange
        the other record label is listing it as "Reboot '98"
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      • melange
        I can't win :)
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      • melange
        sorry, "Re:Boot '98"
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      • ruaok confirms that melange is too obsessive about this
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      • melange
        must .. find .. correct .. title! .. *twitch*
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      • melange
        heh, I was figuring I'd need to hit 100+ mods before being nominated for auto-mod.. :)
      • 2004-02-06 03741, 2004

      • melange
        er.. 1000+ mods