first day of the new year, and I see all these nifty new things on MusicBrainz: Release Date, a stay logged in checkbox, whoa! :-D
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melange
I thought of those as a late Christmas present :)
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StupidMop
LOL! that works!
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StupidMop
on this album http://musicbrainz.org/album/cf176073-45f9-4110-a… it seems like "Album, offical" is a pending change, but if you view album mods, you will see there is no pending changes. Why is it highlighted?
right. but that is closed. so it shouldn't highlight "Album, offical" as a pending change
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melange
yeah, I just noticed that
2004-01-01 00154, 2004
melange
looks like a bug to me
2004-01-01 00149, 2004
melange
you should post a bug report on sourceforge
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StupidMop
okay. I'll right it up. Just wanted to make sure it was a real bug, and not me being a spaz
2004-01-01 00122, 2004
melange
I don't suppose someone has come up with a command line tool for linux to calculate TRMs?
2004-01-01 00145, 2004
melange
failing that, a pointer to perl modules would be nice
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melange
s'ok, I found SvanZoest's page
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djce
wb yalaforge
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yalaforge
djce: hi!
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melange
hey
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melange
I'm in need of some advice
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yalaforge
what's up?
2004-01-01 00151, 2004
melange
I have an album that I'm 99.9% sure is a homebrew compilation
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melange
I want to delete it, however there are quite a number or TRMs attached to it
2004-01-01 00151, 2004
yalaforge
what's the problem with it? I think it's no problem to have it in the database
2004-01-01 00110, 2004
melange
now, some years ago when Napster was still going, I downloaded all of the tracks on this album
2004-01-01 00139, 2004
melange
however, the tracks I got were bad quality, 128kbit, and were recorded *fast*, ie: a 4:28 song only taking 4:17, etc
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yalaforge
so the TRMs are useless as well
2004-01-01 00159, 2004
melange
the TRMs on the bad quality mp3s match this album
2004-01-01 00108, 2004
melange
yes
2004-01-01 00129, 2004
yalaforge
hm, if you really want to delete it, you have my vote
2004-01-01 00131, 2004
melange
so do I just delete the album? at best, it's a bootleg, but I don't think it will be a mass-produced one, so it's pretty useless
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yalaforge
just paste the URL of the mod here
2004-01-01 00104, 2004
melange
and we have the official compilation in there as well
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melange
I can attach the TRMs of the bad tracks I have to the official album, if that's desiareable
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melange
-a
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yalaforge
no, I wouldn't do that
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melange
the issue there is that the "bad" TRMs get quite a lot of lookups :)
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melange
meaning this same bad quality rip (which was probably recorded off LP) has been getting around
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yalaforge
uh. but I'm afraid moving TRMs isn't supported via the web interface
2004-01-01 00138, 2004
melange
which, in itself, is quite an interesting fact. conceivably, if you wanted to track a song through the P2P network, you could fudge it slightly so it produces a unique TRM, and then watch the TRM count on musicbrainz
2004-01-01 00140, 2004
melange
heh
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yalaforge
:-)
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melange
yeah, I know I can't move the TRMs, but as I mabe the mp3s, I can regenerate them and add them to the "correct" album
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melange
mabe = have
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yalaforge
ok
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melange
(don't ask me how I wrote that wrong)
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yalaforge
:-)
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melange
or, perhaps a better option ..
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melange
the tracks on the official compilation came from a series of EPs
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melange
(LP only)
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melange
I could create albums for the EPs and attach the TRMs to that instead?
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yalaforge
even better
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melange
not all the tracks on the EPs made it to the compilation
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melange
so this would be better
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melange
although there will never be a CDID for them
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melange
never released on CD
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yalaforge
sorry, I've got to leave in a minute. You can post the mod URLs here, however
2004-01-01 00156, 2004
melange
np
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melange
thanks for the help
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yalaforge
the chatlogger records them, I'll vote on them later
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yalaforge
np, bye
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melange
I really wish there was the facility to enter LPs correctly
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djce
you mean as side A, side B?
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djce
or to mark them as "media: vinyl" or similar?
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melange
Side A, B, C, D ...
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melange
I'm looking at a 3 disc LP compilation
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melange
so there's effectively 6 sides
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melange
can't really do that properly just yet
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djce
not yet... one day...
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djce
I've had an idea knocking around for a while I call "track groups"
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melange
I was hoping to add it to avoid problems when I add the component LPs that make up most of the 3LP release
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djce
where you can take a sequence of tracks and mark them as somehow related.
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djce
e.g. you could say tracks 1-7 are side A.
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melange
(the 3LP is a compilation of the single LP releases, but missing a couple of tracks)
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djce
you just like complicated stuff :-)
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melange
well, I'm good at it :)
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djce
good thing too!
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melange
hmm .. the birds have just started up .. I should go to bed
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djce
good night then! or good morning. or something.
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djce
wow yeah, what that's 0440 hrs or something?
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melange
oh, while I've got you, did you read any of the discussion regarding the addition of alternate track names?
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melange
yup
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djce
half-read it, yes.
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djce
album and track aliases would be dead handy....
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djce
sleep well!
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melange
I kind of need some way to enter it *now* so that it will be accepted, and it seemed the "[untitled] (aka Alternate Name)" was the best option..
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djce
(seems like a reasonable hack for now)
2004-01-01 00106, 2004
melange
just wondering if I should start adding mods to that effect?
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melange
lots of Aphex related stuff is untitled like that
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djce
Well *I* would probably vote yes. But it's Neil's call really.
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melange
ok
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melange
does he come on here much?
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melange
I guess not? :)
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melange
night
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alus
another Aphex track which could benefit is, I believe, track 2 off the Windowlicker EP, commonly reffered to as "a complex mathimatical equation" or something of the sort, where the actual track name is a long string of basically un-typable mathimatical syntax (perhaps even -valid- syntax, but I wouldn't know)
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Go186K
Having problems with the tagger assigning 0 to track numbers.
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Go186K
Anybody around?
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Go186K
hi
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yalaforge
hi!
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Go186K
Can you help me with a tagger problem?
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yalaforge has never used the tagger before, sorry
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Go186K
No problem.
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yalaforge
is it anything that might have to do with tunepimp?
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Go186K
Possibly. The tagger is assigning a value of zero to some of my tracks.
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Go186K
Er, track numbers.
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yalaforge
oh. strange
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yalaforge
in an id3 tag? v2 or v1?
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Go186K
Not sure yet. I started to read about v1 vs. v1.1 vs. v2 a few minutes ago.
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yalaforge
v1 and v1.1 are appended to the file and very simple
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yalaforge
IIRC the tagger tunepimp uses 2.3.0 or even 2.4.0
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Go186K
I have it set to also add V1 tags. Does it do 1 or 1.1?
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yalaforge thinks a minute ...
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yalaforge
IIRC v1 had 30 characters for the comment while v1.1 has only 28
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yalaforge
the size of the tag stayed 128 bytes, but I'm not sure what they added. It may have been the genre number
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Go186K
They added a byte for track # and a byte for genre.
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yalaforge
ah
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Go186K
That's why I was wondering if tagger writes v1 vs. v1.1
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yalaforge
I used tunepimp's example tagger a while ago and my tags had the track number
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Go186K
I think I'll try writing a simple tag viewer for v1 and v1.1 in Python. Good learning exercise.
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Go186K
My programming skills are somewhere between rusty and non-existant.
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Go186K
:(
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yalaforge
yes, not much work to do. Just get the last 128 bytes and check if the first bytes are "ID3"
