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      • yalaforge
        there are more than 30000 artists that only have one track
      • 2004-01-17 01759, 2004

      • djce
        wow. Good stat.
      • 2004-01-17 01703, 2004

      • djce
        custom query?
      • 2004-01-17 01709, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yes, wait a minute ...
      • 2004-01-17 01731, 2004

      • yalaforge
      • 2004-01-17 01709, 2004

      • djce reads
      • 2004-01-17 01758, 2004

      • yalaforge
        the numbers are old, but still apply to some extent.
      • 2004-01-17 01705, 2004

      • djce
        I see. Artists with no albums, group by track count.
      • 2004-01-17 01730, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yup. I already identified about 5000 of them that are duplicates
      • 2004-01-17 01746, 2004

      • yalaforge
        the follow the pattern '{artist we have} + some other string'
      • 2004-01-17 01721, 2004

      • djce
        good idea.
      • 2004-01-17 01734, 2004

      • yalaforge
        and then there are wendell's reports, so we should get rid of many of them
      • 2004-01-17 01753, 2004

      • djce
        as of a week ago:
      • 2004-01-17 01755, 2004

      • djce
        FROM artist, track
      • 2004-01-17 01756, 2004

      • djce
        WHERE NOT EXISTS (
      • 2004-01-17 01758, 2004

      • djce
        SELECT * FROM album WHERE artist.id = album.artist
      • 2004-01-17 01700, 2004

      • djce
        ) AND artist.id = track.artist
      • 2004-01-17 01702, 2004

      • djce
        GROUP BY artist.id
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      • djce
        ORDER BY COUNT(track.id)
      • 2004-01-17 01706, 2004

      • djce
        )
      • 2004-01-17 01710, 2004

      • djce
        AS tracks_by_artist
      • 2004-01-17 01713, 2004

      • djce
        GROUP BY numtracks
      • 2004-01-17 01714, 2004

      • djce
        ORDER BY COUNT(artistid) DESC;
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      • djce
        doh
      • 2004-01-17 01718, 2004

      • djce
        try again
      • 2004-01-17 01720, 2004

      • djce
        numtracks | count
      • 2004-01-17 01722, 2004

      • djce
        -----------+-------
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      • djce
        1 | 29235
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      • djce
        2 | 6071
      • 2004-01-17 01730, 2004

      • djce
        3 | 2108
      • 2004-01-17 01732, 2004

      • djce
        4 | 1134
      • 2004-01-17 01734, 2004

      • djce
        (damn X clipboards. grrrr.)
      • 2004-01-17 01753, 2004

      • yalaforge
        it gets worse
      • 2004-01-17 01703, 2004

      • yalaforge
        the whole VA submission process is BAD. really BAD.
      • 2004-01-17 01720, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I've seen submissions from good moderators that had mistakes in the artist fields
      • 2004-01-17 01737, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I think I can write a function that checks a proposed artist's name and makes suggestions to improve it
      • 2004-01-17 01709, 2004

      • yalaforge
        many people submit stuff like 'artist feat. artist' or 'x + y', 'x and y' etc.
      • 2004-01-17 01712, 2004

      • djce
        that sounds good...
      • 2004-01-17 01754, 2004

      • yalaforge
        ok, I'll add it to my TODO for the next release
      • 2004-01-17 01741, 2004

      • yalaforge
        heh. my university was rated as "germany's best in computer science" :-)
      • 2004-01-17 01718, 2004

      • yalaforge
        according to cdrecord, my burner "Does return CD ISRC information"
      • 2004-01-17 01727, 2004

      • djce
        interesting...
      • 2004-01-17 01746, 2004

      • yalaforge
        damn. ioctl_list(4) is outdated.
      • 2004-01-17 01753, 2004

      • yalaforge hates to read kernel sources
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      • yalaforge
        ok, I can read the "Universal Product Code" from a CD-Audio using a ioctl()
      • 2004-01-17 01748, 2004

      • djce
        brb..
      • 2004-01-17 01749, 2004

      • djce has quit
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      • yalaforge
        tried two discs. one had the UPC, the other didn't. and apparently, not all drives support to read the UPC :-(
      • 2004-01-17 01728, 2004

      • yalaforge
        the ISRC can be written using a CD burner but there's no way to read it
      • 2004-01-17 01752, 2004

      • yalaforge is away: I'm busy
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      • djce has quit
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      • orogor joined the channel
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      • djce joined the channel
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      • djce has nice small fonts in mozilla at last
      • 2004-01-17 01740, 2004

      • yalaforge
        cool.
      • 2004-01-17 01754, 2004

      • djce
        maybe now I can start to catch up on mb-users. 55 unread. eek!
      • 2004-01-17 01715, 2004

      • yalaforge
        nothing relevant, IMHO. just chat
      • 2004-01-17 01723, 2004

      • djce
        ok, should be quick then.
      • 2004-01-17 01725, 2004

      • djce reads
      • 2004-01-17 01739, 2004

      • djce
        oh, I got another X for you. maybe you can help.
      • 2004-01-17 01747, 2004

      • djce
        s/X/Q/ (question). duh.
      • 2004-01-17 01751, 2004

      • djce
        what am I like?
      • 2004-01-17 01751, 2004

      • yalaforge hopes so
      • 2004-01-17 01700, 2004

      • djce
        anyway, the question is this:
      • 2004-01-17 01715, 2004

      • djce
        how can I use the X server when I'm su'd to another user?
      • 2004-01-17 01729, 2004

      • djce
        e.g. login in as me; start X; su - anotheruser ; gvim
      • 2004-01-17 01745, 2004

      • yalaforge
        you mean, you can't start the program because you don't have the permissions?
      • 2004-01-17 01749, 2004

      • djce
        which used to work on Red Hat, but now says "can't open display".
      • 2004-01-17 01721, 2004

      • djce
        I can't remember if on RH I had to customise anything to make that work, or if it was like that by default.
      • 2004-01-17 01722, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I have this problem, too. it has something to do with authentication. xhost comes to mind.
      • 2004-01-17 01728, 2004

      • yalaforge
        wait a few minutes, I'll have a look at it
      • 2004-01-17 01743, 2004

      • djce reads man xhost too
      • 2004-01-17 01720, 2004

      • yalaforge
        xauth is relevant, too
      • 2004-01-17 01724, 2004

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      • yalaforge
        djce: ok, I think I know how it works
      • 2004-01-17 01731, 2004

      • djce
        cool. beats the hell out of me.
      • 2004-01-17 01747, 2004

      • yalaforge
        in the account that started the X server: xauth extract - $DISPLAY > /tmp/cookie
      • 2004-01-17 01711, 2004

      • yalaforge
        in the other account you su-ed to: xauth merge /tmp/cookie
      • 2004-01-17 01736, 2004

      • yalaforge
        and also set DISPLAY identically on both accounts
      • 2004-01-17 01753, 2004

      • djce
        yay!
      • 2004-01-17 01757, 2004

      • djce
        You da man!
      • 2004-01-17 01715, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I don't know if the cookie expires after the server is restarted. you have to try that
      • 2004-01-17 01725, 2004

      • yalaforge
        but I don't think so
      • 2004-01-17 01734, 2004

      • djce
        ok, we'll see.. Thanks.
      • 2004-01-17 01738, 2004

      • yalaforge
        np
      • 2004-01-17 01738, 2004

      • yalaforge is away: lunch
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      • orogor has quit
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      • orogor_
        orogor_ is now known as orogor
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      • orogor has quit
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      • yalaforge is back (gone 00:43:12)
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      • melange
        djce: 'xhost +localhost'
      • 2004-01-17 01739, 2004

      • melange
        djce: that should fix your X problem
      • 2004-01-17 01700, 2004

      • melange
        well, that's the easy way, anyway
      • 2004-01-17 01701, 2004

      • melange
        :)
      • 2004-01-17 01741, 2004

      • yalaforge
        melange: but allows anyone on localhost to access the X server
      • 2004-01-17 01752, 2004

      • melange
        how worried about that are you?
      • 2004-01-17 01714, 2004

      • yalaforge
        my box is used by several people
      • 2004-01-17 01728, 2004

      • melange
        ok, well you need to be more restrictive then
      • 2004-01-17 01750, 2004

      • melange
        if you're the only one on the box, or if you trust the others who access it, then xhost +localhost is fine
      • 2004-01-17 01713, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yup. and set $DISPLAY
      • 2004-01-17 01737, 2004

      • melange
        that probably depends on if you "su -" or not
      • 2004-01-17 01745, 2004

      • melange
        I tend to drop the "-" most of the time
      • 2004-01-17 01720, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I use it. my personal user has a strict umask
      • 2004-01-17 01711, 2004

      • djce is away: at work
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      • djce
        melange: thanks for the tip, btw
      • 2004-01-17 01746, 2004

      • melange
        np
      • 2004-01-17 01722, 2004

      • djce is back (gone 00:30:11)
      • 2004-01-17 01739, 2004

      • djce
        Hey, not bad. I allocated myself 30 minutes for that work. That was pretty close!
      • 2004-01-17 01749, 2004

      • yalaforge
        :-)
      • 2004-01-17 01722, 2004

      • melange
        no no no, you're supposed to over-allocate, that way you can get it in and say "it's a miracle!"
      • 2004-01-17 01735, 2004

      • melange
        (ref:
      • 2004-01-17 01741, 2004

      • melange
        (ref: Scotty from Star Trek)
      • 2004-01-17 01749, 2004

      • yalaforge
        lol
      • 2004-01-17 01753, 2004

      • djce
        well I did think I might round up a bit... say, in 30-minute chunks? Do you think rounding from 30:11 to 60:00 is too much? ;-)
      • 2004-01-17 01726, 2004

      • melange
        It's a miracle!
      • 2004-01-17 01729, 2004

      • melange
        ;)
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      • melange
        it means you've got 29:49 to surf the web until your next task
      • 2004-01-17 01753, 2004

      • melange
        :)
      • 2004-01-17 01712, 2004

      • yalaforge likes melange's way to think :-)
      • 2004-01-17 01722, 2004

      • djce wonders whether to read the remaining 25 mb-users posts about mixes, classical etc.
      • 2004-01-17 01737, 2004

      • yalaforge skipped them
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      • melange
        it starts to waffle on a bit, but I think there's some general agreement now
      • 2004-01-17 01700, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I reduced the artist count instead
      • 2004-01-17 01728, 2004

      • melange
        yalaforge: ?
      • 2004-01-17 01735, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yes?
      • 2004-01-17 01748, 2004

      • melange
        "I reduced the artist count instead" - I don't understand
      • 2004-01-17 01704, 2004

      • yalaforge
        we have tons of duplicated artists
      • 2004-01-17 01723, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I submit merges or 'change artist' mods
      • 2004-01-17 01747, 2004

      • yalaforge
        ca. 25000-30000 of our artists are dupes, I guess
      • 2004-01-17 01710, 2004

      • melange
        ok .. I'm still trying to work out how this relates to the MB thread
      • 2004-01-17 01714, 2004

      • melange
        :)
      • 2004-01-17 01735, 2004

      • yalaforge
        it's a more useful way of spending 30 minutes :-)
      • 2004-01-17 01743, 2004

      • djce
        I see :-)
      • 2004-01-17 01744, 2004

      • melange
        aaaaaaaaahhhhh
      • 2004-01-17 01707, 2004

      • yalaforge wonders what you two were thinking
      • 2004-01-17 01708, 2004

      • melange
        *ding*
      • 2004-01-17 01733, 2004

      • melange
        well, I think it was just the timing
      • 2004-01-17 01717, 2004

      • melange
        I made my comment about waffling and agreements, and you said you just reduced the artist count (as if, reducing the artist count was a better way to deal with classical and mix naming)
      • 2004-01-17 01734, 2004

      • yalaforge
        oh :-)
      • 2004-01-17 01747, 2004

      • melange
        which, of course, didn't make a lot of sense :)
      • 2004-01-17 01758, 2004

      • melange
        aaaaaaanyway
      • 2004-01-17 01713, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yup. time to do some voting
      • 2004-01-17 01753, 2004

      • melange
        yeah .. I've fallen off the top five. I've been slack the last week, only a few votes each day.
      • 2004-01-17 01746, 2004

      • yalaforge
        same here. but some on the top voters list seem to like the 'abstain' button
      • 2004-01-17 01701, 2004

      • melange
        abstain's don't count on the top five though, right?
      • 2004-01-17 01716, 2004

      • yalaforge
        don't know
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      • djce
        melange: I think you're right.
      • 2004-01-17 01740, 2004

      • melange
        do artists with no albums get removed automatically?