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      • w1r3d`noxious
        hey how do i make it so musicbrainz isnt the default autoplay handler
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      • DJKC
        what operating system?
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      • cikkolata
        windows, I imagine
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      • cikkolata
        but I don't use windows, so I'm not much help :(
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        xp pro
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      • cikkolata
        is there a specific program you want to change it to?
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        no i just want it to do nothin
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        but i could live with a media player if its gotta be that way
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      • cikkolata
        ah
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      • cikkolata boots up windows
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      • cikkolata
        ah, right click the CD drive in my computer or whatever, select properties and then the autoplay tab
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        yea but its not there and its on take no action, but mbtagger still loads when a cd is put it, it just doesnt autoplay, but when i double click the drive icon it loads, id rather it plays in winamp or just openes the folder
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        if that makes any sense
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      • cikkolata
        is it set to no action for all the types?
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        ummm
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        yea
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        cant find it in regetit under handler either
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        dunno what it would be called
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      • cikkolata
        no idea then :(
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        k
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      • w1r3d`noxious
        thanks for tryin
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      • rj_
        can anyone tell me a query i can run against the mb database that gives a list of Track ID, Album ID pairs for tracks on albums where the album is a "various artists" album?
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      • rj_
        i cant see how VA is indicated in the db
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      • rj_
        aha, magic number 1 for artist id?
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      • djce
        rj_: yes
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      • djce
        The "magic number" is defined in cgi-bin/ModDefs.pm
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      • rj_
        i think we have around 10 magic numbers for various incantations of "various artists"
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      • rj_
        i'm going see what artist-relationships i can mine from the compilation data
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      • cikkolata
        djce, do you think you think it'd be a good idea to add a note to the remove album page pointing out that people wanting to remove an album they've just added can delete the add album mod instead? (it does seem like there are quite a few remove album mods where people simply aren't aware that they can do that)
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      • cikkolata attempts to make sense
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      • djce reads....
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      • djce
        sounds sensible. In theory it could detect if there is a pending "add album" mod, and, if it's /your/ mod, could show a message to that effect.
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      • djce
        and if it's not your mod, it could provide a link to the "add" mod, so you can add a note saying why you want to delete it.
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      • cikkolata
        even better
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      • DJKC
        who maintains the wiki server?
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      • dupuy
        content? or the server itself?
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      • dupuy
        there were some rumblings in the past about migrating to MoinMoin as the wiki engine
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      • dupuy
        there is apparently a MoinMoin wiki already installed at musicbrainz.org; it is used for the playlist format wiki
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      • DJKC
        dupuy: server itself. really would be nice if someone could switch it unicode and not western
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      • dupuy
        I don't know if that will give you UTF-8 wiki happiness
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      • DJKC
        keeps messing with some entries by people like mo
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      • DJKC
        no easy way to switch it over then?
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      • dupuy
        I've never had any problem, and although having all the foreign chars in the text as Ӓ is annoying at times, it is some protection against mangling by people without UTF-8 support in their browser
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      • dupuy
        I dunno why mo has such problems, it could be an issue of config for his browser
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      • cikkolata
        mo seems to be sending stuff as shift jis
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      • cikkolata
        I got the same stuff when I tried it after manually switching to shift jis, but it worked fine when I chose iso-8859-1
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      • dupuy
        that's odd, if he's cutting/pasting it from the MB server pages
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      • dupuy
        less odd if he's cutting/pasting it from other web sites
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      • cikkolata
        I have no idea what browser he's using though.
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      • DJKC
        dupuy: he's using winme and IE
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      • DJKC
        is the root of his problem
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      • DJKC
        but he's not the only person on the planet still using those
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      • rj_
        so i'll could someone take a look at this: http://static.audioscrobbler.com/mbout.txt
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      • rj_
        and see if any of the relationships make sense?
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      • rj_
        it's suppposedlt "artist similarity" based on VA album compilations
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      • rj_
        but the algorithm isnt exactly suited to this.. there isnt enough info really
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      • DJKC
        from the artists I recognize it's relavent
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      • DJKC
        Naoki Maeda --(100)--> TaQ
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      • rj_
        i dont recognize many of them..
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      • DJKC
        same
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      • DJKC
        Depeche Mode -> Erasure seems similar to me too
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      • DJKC
        but other than those two I don't know the majority
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      • rj_
        Pulley --(58.98)--> Pennywise
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      • rj_
        good.
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      • rj_
        i can check manually against audioscrobbler similarity
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      • cikkolata can't find any pairs she's heard of
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      • rj_
        i'll have to automate a check against some known similarity tomorrow
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      • rj_
        i think it may make sense...
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      • canidae
        hmm... this is odd... i have a little program that does some brute-force calculation, however, when i compile with "-O2" it does something _completly_ different than if i don't use this flag...?
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      • canidae
        anyone of you ever seen a such behaviour before?
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      • dupuy
        fwiw, MoinMoin wiki on musicbrainz is http://playlist.musicbrainz.org/playlist/moin.cgi/
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      • dupuy
        you could check and see if it claims UTF-8 in HTTP/HTML
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      • dupuy
        DJKC: MoinMoin returns Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
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      • dupuy
        so no joy there
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      • dupuy
        this may be typical for wikis
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      • DJKC
        dupuy: well, http://ja.wikipedia.org/ wikipedia has it as UTF if you go to a non-English page
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      • DJKC
        although en.wikipedia was set to western and not utf8
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      • djce is away: bye
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      • cikkolata
        DJKC: still there?
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      • DJKC
        I'm at work, so in and out, but yes
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      • cikkolata
        are you at all familiar with kimura yuki?
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      • DJKC
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      • DJKC
        I know the name is about it
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      • DJKC
        Yuki Kimura - Sole Sorfege <-- and have that album apparently
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      • cikkolata
        ah
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      • cikkolata
        I was wondering if you knew which way to put the names (I'm linking a few variations on audioscrobbler)
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      • cikkolata
        'cause I'm not very familiar with her (one song...)
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      • DJKC
        well, that link is her label page, of sourts
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      • DJKC
        *sorts
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      • DJKC
        geneon is pldc's media division spin off
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      • DJKC
        kanji is on the page, seems to not use any official English version so I'd go with Kimura Yuki
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      • cikkolata
        thanks
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