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      • cikkolata
        ruaok: is there a transcriptiony thing?
      • 2004-09-14 25826, 2004

      • cikkolata
        rrrofl
      • 2004-09-14 25830, 2004

      • cikkolata
        I understood a bit
      • 2004-09-14 25832, 2004

      • djce joined the channel
      • 2004-09-14 25837, 2004

      • cikkolata
        by the way, if you're going to set the font colour of the input boxes (I'm talking about the site now), can you set the background colour too. please?
      • 2004-09-14 25802, 2004

      • djce
        cikkolata: which page, which fields?
      • 2004-09-14 25839, 2004

      • djce
        AFAIK all colours are set, none of them are left to just default
      • 2004-09-14 25854, 2004

      • cikkolata
        in css/brainz.css
      • 2004-09-14 25807, 2004

      • cikkolata
        afaict.
      • 2004-09-14 25818, 2004

      • djce
        cikkolata: which page, which fields?
      • 2004-09-14 25843, 2004

      • cikkolata
        all of the form boxes, like the search ones
      • 2004-09-14 25856, 2004

      • cikkolata
        oh, wait, selects are ok
      • 2004-09-14 25851, 2004

      • RJ joined the channel
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      • cikkolata looks for some other than search ones
      • 2004-09-14 25848, 2004

      • cikkolata
        just <input type="text"... ones, that I've seen so far.
      • 2004-09-14 25825, 2004

      • cikkolata
        unless firefox is being retarded...
      • 2004-09-14 25833, 2004

      • djce
        css/main.css sets the default background colour. Everything inherits from that.
      • 2004-09-14 25841, 2004

      • djce
        I think your browser may be broken.
      • 2004-09-14 25852, 2004

      • cikkolata
        yay, another reason to hate firefox.
      • 2004-09-14 25853, 2004

      • djce
        Or at least supplying unhelpful CSS defaults.
      • 2004-09-14 25853, 2004

      • djce
        ruaok: hey there
      • 2004-09-14 25803, 2004

      • cikkolata
        opera has the same problem
      • 2004-09-14 25819, 2004

      • cikkolata
        I hadn't noticed 'cause I tell it to ignore form styles
      • 2004-09-14 25830, 2004

      • djce
        CSS allows you to, well, cascade settings from one part of the document to another.
      • 2004-09-14 25833, 2004

      • djce
        which is what MB does.
      • 2004-09-14 25841, 2004

      • djce
        the document is set to a white background.
      • 2004-09-14 25844, 2004

      • cikkolata
        what browser do you use then?
      • 2004-09-14 25802, 2004

      • djce
        which then cascades down to all text and all form fields, and indeed everything else.
      • 2004-09-14 25803, 2004

      • djce
        Mozilla.
      • 2004-09-14 25810, 2004

      • cikkolata
        o_O
      • 2004-09-14 25854, 2004

      • djce
        Now each browser has certain built-in default style sheets, and the document's own style sheets are overlaid onto them.
      • 2004-09-14 25820, 2004

      • djce
        But if the built-in style sheets contain unhelpful rules such as, say, "form fields have a green background"
      • 2004-09-14 25835, 2004

      • djce
        then how is a page author meant to guess that that needs to be overridden?
      • 2004-09-14 25837, 2004

      • djce
        :-(
      • 2004-09-14 25847, 2004

      • djce
        Anyway no problems in Mozilla,
      • 2004-09-14 25857, 2004

      • djce
        even with non-default fore/back colours.
      • 2004-09-14 25857, 2004

      • cikkolata
        there are for me
      • 2004-09-14 25823, 2004

      • djce
        Does Firefox supply the "inspect this object" option on the right-click menu?
      • 2004-09-14 25835, 2004

      • djce
        Or the "DOM Inspector" in general?
      • 2004-09-14 25849, 2004

      • cikkolata
        not that I can see
      • 2004-09-14 25853, 2004

      • djce
        ok, never mind.
      • 2004-09-14 25822, 2004

      • djce
        what version of firefox, on what platform?
      • 2004-09-14 25803, 2004

      • cikkolata
        firefox 0.8, mozilla 1.7.2, opera 7.5, debian sid
      • 2004-09-14 25819, 2004

      • cikkolata
        hmm
      • 2004-09-14 25824, 2004

      • cikkolata
        nothing likes dark themes, it seems >_<
      • 2004-09-14 25851, 2004

      • MacIntire joined the channel
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      • cikkolata
        galeon 1.3.17 and epiphany 1.2.8 too.
      • 2004-09-14 25820, 2004

      • Knio-school
        Knio-school is now known as Knio
      • 2004-09-14 25856, 2004

      • djce
        Shock! I'm aghast! MB has no record of "John Kettley is a Weatherman" by "Tribe of Toffs". Surely this cannot be allowed.
      • 2004-09-14 25820, 2004

      • djce
        A truly classic novelty record of the late 80's UK chart
      • 2004-09-14 25824, 2004

      • somniloquy
        Haha.
      • 2004-09-14 25834, 2004

      • somniloquy
        ...and so is Michael Fish.
      • 2004-09-14 25843, 2004

      • djce
        and so, is, Wincey Willis.
      • 2004-09-14 25803, 2004

      • ruaok
        djce: hey
      • 2004-09-14 25808, 2004

      • cikkolata stares at mozilla
      • 2004-09-14 25822, 2004

      • RJ has quit
      • 2004-09-14 25824, 2004

      • ruaok was busy finalizing the bylaws for Metabrainz
      • 2004-09-14 25848, 2004

      • cikkolata
        it got the font colour right for the search boxes (but not the background colour), but for the quick search, it got the background colour right but not the font colour.
      • 2004-09-14 25820, 2004

      • soccos joined the channel
      • 2004-09-14 25844, 2004

      • ruaok
        soccos: hi there!
      • 2004-09-14 25849, 2004

      • ruaok
        how's the uk?
      • 2004-09-14 25853, 2004

      • soccos
        yo!
      • 2004-09-14 25856, 2004

      • djce
        damp :-)
      • 2004-09-14 25858, 2004

      • djce
        windy
      • 2004-09-14 25858, 2004

      • soccos
        wet
      • 2004-09-14 25801, 2004

      • soccos
        :)
      • 2004-09-14 25811, 2004

      • somniloquy
        Dark.
      • 2004-09-14 25812, 2004

      • cikkolata
        the uk's always wet though
      • 2004-09-14 25812, 2004

      • ruaok
        still hot here. :)
      • 2004-09-14 25831, 2004

      • ruaok is still eating the chocolate from soccos' last visit.
      • 2004-09-14 25847, 2004

      • soccos
        dude, you're slacking
      • 2004-09-14 25859, 2004

      • ruaok
        I've also been out of town half that time.
      • 2004-09-14 25831, 2004

      • soccos
        I left almost a whole bar @ mike's
      • 2004-09-14 25836, 2004

      • soccos
        this is becoming a habit
      • 2004-09-14 25848, 2004

      • soccos
        I must be losing it
      • 2004-09-14 25807, 2004

      • ruaok
        :-)
      • 2004-09-14 25814, 2004

      • ruaok
        soccos: did you get my mail about a friend needing help?
      • 2004-09-14 25823, 2004

      • soccos
        yeah, didn't hear any more from him
      • 2004-09-14 25817, 2004

      • ruaok
        he must've gone to bed then.
      • 2004-09-14 25823, 2004

      • ruaok
        I'm sure he'll answer in the morning...
      • 2004-09-14 25823, 2004

      • soccos
        oh, hold on
      • 2004-09-14 25824, 2004

      • soccos
        I'm on a ghetto Internet connection atm
      • 2004-09-14 25830, 2004

      • ruaok
        ahh.
      • 2004-09-14 25834, 2004

      • ruaok
        thanks for looking into it.
      • 2004-09-14 25825, 2004

      • soccos
        but I may know one in London
      • 2004-09-14 25839, 2004

      • ruaok
        I think that is key here.
      • 2004-09-14 25842, 2004

      • ruaok
        someone to trust...
      • 2004-09-14 25818, 2004

      • soccos
        yeah, good friend
      • 2004-09-14 25828, 2004

      • soccos
        just depends whether he has time, is interested etc.
      • 2004-09-14 25858, 2004

      • soccos
        I'm meeting up with him tomorrow so I'll ask
      • 2004-09-14 25834, 2004

      • ruaok
        sweet, thanks!
      • 2004-09-14 25850, 2004

      • soccos
        you know where in London he is?
      • 2004-09-14 25800, 2004

      • ruaok
        I don't.
      • 2004-09-14 25811, 2004

      • ruaok
        His mum is off Kings Road.
      • 2004-09-14 25821, 2004

      • ruaok
        I don't think he is very far from her.
      • 2004-09-14 25825, 2004

      • ruaok
        but I'm not sure.
      • 2004-09-14 25815, 2004

      • soccos
        I think he runs exchange server so he probably has some kind of opinion/solution
      • 2004-09-14 25845, 2004

      • ruaok
        good.
      • 2004-09-14 25815, 2004

      • danbri joined the channel
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      • soccos
        how is everyone at tanglewood?
      • 2004-09-14 25838, 2004

      • ruaok
        at work. :-)
      • 2004-09-14 25851, 2004

      • ruaok
        we have yet another party coming up friday.
      • 2004-09-14 25853, 2004

      • ruaok
        danbri: hi!
      • 2004-09-14 25803, 2004

      • danbri
        heya
      • 2004-09-14 25817, 2004

      • ruaok
        I'm looking forward to seeing you on the 4th..
      • 2004-09-14 25818, 2004

      • danbri waves in a just got home from 12hour flight and train from london sort of a way
      • 2004-09-14 25827, 2004

      • danbri
        tickets just arrived :)
      • 2004-09-14 25830, 2004

      • ruaok
        yeay!
      • 2004-09-14 25844, 2004

      • ruaok
        I am hoping that people will have time for dinner/beer after the meeting.
      • 2004-09-14 25808, 2004

      • ruaok
        Probably won't be all of us, but if even a few of us that would be cool.
      • 2004-09-14 25816, 2004

      • danbri
        london->sanfran Oct 2; san fran -> shanghai oct 8...
      • 2004-09-14 25819, 2004

      • ruaok
        And looks like the CC will be hosting the meeting.
      • 2004-09-14 25830, 2004

      • danbri
        beer'd be good, definitely
      • 2004-09-14 25835, 2004

      • ruaok
        perfect.
      • 2004-09-14 25844, 2004

      • ruaok
        I'll make a point of not driving then. :-)
      • 2004-09-14 25833, 2004

      • soccos
        is there an rfe for the bouncing login button (in Mozilla)?
      • 2004-09-14 25859, 2004

      • djce
        Not that I know of. What is a "bouncing login button"?
      • 2004-09-14 25819, 2004

      • soccos
        for as long as I can remember when I get to the login screen
      • 2004-09-14 25847, 2004

      • soccos
        and click on the login button it jumps to the left and I have to press it again before I actually get logged in
      • 2004-09-14 25857, 2004

      • djce
        Yeah, annoying ain't it.
      • 2004-09-14 25801, 2004

      • soccos
        :)
      • 2004-09-14 25808, 2004

      • soccos
        css thing?
      • 2004-09-14 25813, 2004

      • djce
        Well rest assured there's no funky DHTML coding which does that.
      • 2004-09-14 25818, 2004

      • djce
        so it must be a Mozilla bug
      • 2004-09-14 25838, 2004

      • soccos
        well I'm glad I got that off my chest anyway
      • 2004-09-14 25803, 2004

      • djce
        Unless maybe you have the time etc to work out why it does that?
      • 2004-09-14 25859, 2004

      • soccos
        it's the html form gnomes fucking with you
      • 2004-09-14 25813, 2004

      • djce
        :-)
      • 2004-09-14 25817, 2004

      • djce
        evil gnomes
      • 2004-09-14 25830, 2004

      • soccos
        at least that's what the web pixies told me
      • 2004-09-14 25838, 2004

      • ruaok
        Is it just me or has soccos' diction changed after living in ca.us for two years?
      • 2004-09-14 25842, 2004

      • soccos
        there is a powerful force in Ocean Beach!
      • 2004-09-14 25859, 2004

      • soccos
        give in to it
      • 2004-09-14 25836, 2004

      • soccos
        have you ever heard of Stanley Mouse?
      • 2004-09-14 25832, 2004

      • ruaok
        no
      • 2004-09-14 25824, 2004

      • soccos
        allegedly he did some grateful dead album covers
      • 2004-09-14 25837, 2004

      • soccos
        and used to hang out with the beatles and the rolling stones
      • 2004-09-14 25859, 2004

      • soccos
        And was living in my appartment block
      • 2004-09-14 25843, 2004

      • ruaok
        wow. compared to yesterday I got a lot of stuff done today.
      • 2004-09-14 25852, 2004

      • ruaok
        finally back in the swing of things.
      • 2004-09-14 25854, 2004

      • ruaok
        tomorrow: code!
      • 2004-09-14 25816, 2004

      • orogor has quit
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      • djce
        Check out this posting in the Mason-users mailing list. Someone has created "Myghty", a Python port of Mason. Here's the bit I like, from the author of Myghty:
      • 2004-09-14 25831, 2004

      • djce
        Mason-like constructs in Python, then refer to one of our rejected slogans for Myghty - "Myghty. You Dont Have To Use It ! (tm)".
      • 2004-09-14 25812, 2004

      • ruaok
        lol.
      • 2004-09-14 25821, 2004

      • ruaok
        I wonder how slow such a beast would be.
      • 2004-09-14 25828, 2004

      • ruaok
        sounds like a *lot* of fun though.
      • 2004-09-14 25858, 2004

      • soccos
        so my exchange buddy said he'll talk to your buddy about his 'issue'
      • 2004-09-14 25811, 2004

      • soccos
        should he just email him?
      • 2004-09-14 25827, 2004

      • ruaok
        sure.