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      • duncf
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      • duncf
        is there a newer version of the tagger than 0.9.0 (like a beta or something?)

        • 2003-09-14 25755, 2003

      • duncf
        nm... i think i found it... what's the status with 0.10.0-test3-xp?

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      • pubarso
        hi

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      • yalaforge
        good morning djce, do you have a minute?

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      • djce
        sure

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      • yalaforge
        have a look at http://www.musicbrainz.org/user/view.html?uid=267…

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      • yalaforge
        and try to load the user's homepage

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      • yalaforge
        perhaps it would be a good idea to prepend the 'http://' if it isn't given

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      • djce
        Dammit. Browser playing up...

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      • yalaforge
        :-)

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      • djce
        So the problem is that the URL is assumed to be complete, even if it's not?

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      • yalaforge
        yes

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      • yalaforge
        http://www.musicbrainz.org/user/www.bigar.org.uk is the result

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      • djce
        OK, I've got some code I can use to guess URLs. Can you add a SF bug for this please?

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      • yalaforge
        ok, will do

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      • djce
        thanks

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      • djce
        Wow. *70* unused artists removed last night. Normally it's less than 10.

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      • djce
        Someone's been busy!

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      • yalaforge
        me

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      • djce
        Yay!

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      • yalaforge
        I had a look at lots of various artists CDs

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      • djce
        So it is (top mods sidebar) :-)

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      • yalaforge
        yes, I'm back :-)

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      • djce
        wb

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      • yalaforge waves back

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      • yalaforge
        all I had to do was an artist search for 'feat.'

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      • djce
        Looking for artists containing "compilations" throws up a load too.

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      • yalaforge
        true. There are a few other searches I try as well to keep my mod count high

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      • djce
        I was in the top mods list last week. Then I went back to coding ;-)

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      • yalaforge
        well, I think you should give yourself 20 pseudo-mods for an hour of coding

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      • yalaforge
        :-)

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      • djce
        Hmmm. After approx 11-12 hours, my poor little box has finally managed to unpack the freedb complete archive. That's a big tar file.

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      • yalaforge
        how bit is it?

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      • yalaforge
        big

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      • djce
        242731003 Sep 5 06:04 freedb-complete-20030905.tar.bz2

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      • djce
        So 242Mb bzip2'd

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      • yalaforge
        wow. pretty hard job for the file system

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      • djce
        but 4168 Mb reported by "du" after unpacking.

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      • yalaforge
        probably you should create a partition with 1KB block size

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      • yalaforge
        otherwise you waste 3K for each file

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      • djce
        Six months ago or so, it was 3319 Mb

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      • djce
        Good idea. Do you know how you do that?

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      • yalaforge
        you need a free partition, one you don't need anymore

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      • djce
        I was thinking of seeing how well it would fit into a PG database too...

        • 2003-09-14 25746, 2003

      • djce
        OK. Or I could use a "-o loop" file, yes?

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      • yalaforge
        use mke2fs with the -b option

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      • djce
        Ah, ok.

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      • djce
        I don't do a lot of that normally. The OS installer takes care of that for me :-)

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      • yalaforge
        I don't know about loopback file systems, sorry

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      • djce
        ok

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      • yalaforge
        you need to umount the partition in question

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      • yalaforge
        but all data on it will be lost, of course.

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      • djce
        yes, of course. thanks.

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      • yalaforge
        mke2fs -b 1024 -j /dev/hd...

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      • yalaforge
        oh, and you need enough inodes. At least one for each file (the -N option)

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      • djce
        1067811

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      • djce
        ouch!

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      • yalaforge
        oh dear. that's a lot of files

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      • yalaforge
        with 1K block size it should be just a bit over 1Gig

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      • yalaforge
        why do you need all that crap?

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      • djce
        I'm just gonna see how big the tar file is after "bunzip2"

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      • djce
        I don't. It's just for, err, fun. Or interest. Or because I can.

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      • yalaforge
        :-)

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      • djce wonders how much faster a simple decompress will be than a decompress-and-extract.

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      • yalaforge
        much faster

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      • djce
        We'll see. But yet, I think so!

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      • djce
        (yes)

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      • yalaforge
        the problem with extract is that many new data structures have to be created in the file system

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      • yalaforge
        ext2fs doesn't cope very well with this. The BSD FS in async mode is even worse

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      • djce
        Yup. I'm hoping with just a bunzip2 (i.e. freedb-complete.tar) that I can scan the tar file, build up an index of filenames to TAR offsets, and then just "open/seek/read" to load each record.

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      • djce
        Hopefully, seek is nice and fast.

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      • yalaforge
        yes, I think that'll work

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      • yalaforge
        I once fed a tar file full of mp3s to my xmms. It worked well :-)

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      • yalaforge
        cool, there is a description of the tar format in /usr/include/tar.h

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      • djce
        bunzip2: 10 min, instead of 12 hours.

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      • yalaforge
        we were right :-)

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      • yalaforge
        how do you want to extract the index?

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      • djce
        Archive::Tar (perl). Or a little variant of it wot I just writ :-)

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      • yalaforge
        I just found http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man4/tar.4.asp

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      • yalaforge is away: time to find something to eat

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      • djce
        yalaforge: the tar indexing works a treat. 1754Mb tar file; 103Mb index (two Postgres tables); and nice fast retrieval times.

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      • djce
        (The raw index file (before loading into Postgres) is only 29Mb!)

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      • yalaforge
        great. but now, what are you going to do with it?

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      • djce
        I forget :-)

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      • yalaforge
        at least, you can send the script to the freedb guys

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      • djce
        Oh well, this afternoon I can get back to some real coding. Advanced Relationships!

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      • yalaforge
        much work, hm?

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      • djce
        It's interesting. Trying to get the UI not to suck is a bit of a challenge.

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      • djce
        But first: Monza beckons. Back later....

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      • yalaforge
        I could do some testing if you want. I always know what sucks :-)

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      • yalaforge
        ok, bye

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      • djce
        Thanks, I'll probably take you up on that in a few days!

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      • yalaforge is away: F1

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      • yalaforge thinks F1 is boring

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      • djce
        Damn this hot weather again. It really ruins my chances of getting some decent coding done. :-(

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      • real_
        i have a question, if there is a bonus track on the cd

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      • real_
        and cd has 14 tracks

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      • real_
        do i say "14 total" or "15 total"

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      • real_
        do i count the bonus track

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      • real_
        or will it be 15/14

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      • ruaok
        for MB purposes the bonus track counts as a regular track.

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      • real_
        okay cool

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      • real_
        i just broke my pinky

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      • real_
        =[