I like how its all kanji plus random english words "GNU GPL"
2003-05-02 12205, 2003
phidauex
"XING"
2003-05-02 12217, 2003
phidauex
"MusicBrainz URL"
2003-05-02 12220, 2003
ruaok
GraceNote
2003-05-02 12221, 2003
ruaok
CDDB
2003-05-02 12223, 2003
ruaok
yup.
2003-05-02 12233, 2003
phidauex
is that you bitching about how cddb became evil? ;)
2003-05-02 12200, 2003
ruaok
How could you tell?
2003-05-02 12200, 2003
phidauex
or maybe more gentle criticism of the methods used for their business?
2003-05-02 12204, 2003
phidauex
;)
2003-05-02 12233, 2003
phidauex
the other day someone came onto the audioscrobbler channel asking if we were going to, and i quote "go all gracenote on us"
2003-05-02 12235, 2003
phidauex
;)
2003-05-02 12239, 2003
phidauex
i got a kick out of that
2003-05-02 12208, 2003
ruaok
common question.
2003-05-02 12217, 2003
phidauex
naturally
2003-05-02 12233, 2003
phidauex
people don't like being strung along and then have the price jacked up once they are addicted
2003-05-02 12242, 2003
phidauex
i certainly dislike it.
2003-05-02 12254, 2003
phidauex
i used to submit hella CDs to gracenote
2003-05-02 12255, 2003
ruaok
people don't like being lied to...
2003-05-02 12200, 2003
ruaok
you and me both.
2003-05-02 12208, 2003
ruaok
that's is why I started this whole mess.
2003-05-02 12210, 2003
phidauex
but now its all about musicbrainz
2003-05-02 12238, 2003
phidauex
freedb was a great placeholder, to keep data safe until something could be done with it, but it never struck me as a 'solution'
2003-05-02 12242, 2003
ruaok
:-)
2003-05-02 12255, 2003
ruaok
anyway, I'm going to relax for a little while
2003-05-02 12203, 2003
phidauex
right on, i've been relaxing for a while now
2003-05-02 12231, 2003
djce
djce (~davide@195.60.9.122) has joined #musicbrainz
2003-05-02 12255, 2003
phidauex
morning dj
2003-05-02 12201, 2003
djce yawns
2003-05-02 12204, 2003
djce
morning!
2003-05-02 12218, 2003
phidauex
getting ready for a hard day at work?
2003-05-02 12226, 2003
phidauex
its a friday at least
2003-05-02 12234, 2003
djce
nope! long weekend for me. No work until next Thursday.
2003-05-02 12249, 2003
phidauex
what are you doing up so early then? habit?
2003-05-02 12208, 2003
djce
yah, I'm rubbish at sleeping in.
2003-05-02 12250, 2003
phidauex
my friend is the same way. He can pass out on my couch at 3 am drunk as a skunk, and still his circadian rhythm wakes him up a 7:30am
2003-05-02 12257, 2003
djce
I'm such a sad git I'm even tailing one of my favourite log files at work.
2003-05-02 12235, 2003
phidauex
i however, can sleep up to 20 hours in a single stretch if my schedule allows
2003-05-02 12243, 2003
phidauex
i wake up having to pee like crazy however
2003-05-02 12258, 2003
phidauex
no shame in tailing your favorite log :)
2003-05-02 12213, 2003
djce
I'll try not to let it get out of hand, or I'll end up tailing all of them :-)
2003-05-02 12216, 2003
ruaok
no work til thursday? Nice.
2003-05-02 12223, 2003
phidauex
do you have plans?
2003-05-02 12227, 2003
phidauex
or is it just 'dj time'
2003-05-02 12257, 2003
djce
My wife's birthday is coming up, so we'll generally just be dossing about and doing not a lot.
2003-05-02 12217, 2003
djce
You know, just go out for the day and have a nice time.
2003-05-02 12221, 2003
phidauex
cool, its good to take time for that :)
2003-05-02 12254, 2003
phidauex
my girlfriend's birthday was last week, but she is just about to graduate with her master's (two weeks away!) and so she is so busy we didn't even get to go out to dinner :(
2003-05-02 12200, 2003
djce
Plus it's the Snooker World Championship Final weekend, so there's some TV to watch.
2003-05-02 12207, 2003
phidauex
but we have some dossing about time scheduled for after graduation though
2003-05-02 12224, 2003
phidauex
snooker eh? i've never played that, though i watched someone play it once
2003-05-02 12240, 2003
djce
Oh yeah, and I've got a branch to try and finish off ;-)
2003-05-02 12248, 2003
phidauex
:)
2003-05-02 12222, 2003
ruaok
djce: do you read your powernet mail when you're not there?
2003-05-02 12231, 2003
ruaok
I assumed you'd be going to work...
2003-05-02 12247, 2003
phidauex
if he's tailing the logs, i bet he's reading the mail ;)
2003-05-02 12202, 2003
ruaok
prolly right.
2003-05-02 12236, 2003
djce
nope, too much like hard work to do that.
2003-05-02 12254, 2003
djce
That requires setting up ssh tunnels and stuff, and I can't be arsed.
2003-05-02 12254, 2003
ruaok
ok. I'll forward the mail in q to the right addy.
2003-05-02 12213, 2003
djce
But then again, now you've mentioned it, I probably will :-)
2003-05-02 12227, 2003
ruaok
Damn you. :-)
2003-05-02 12240, 2003
djce
send it to me at home to be sure though.
2003-05-02 12249, 2003
ruaok
I won't bother waking the laptop for this.
2003-05-02 12256, 2003
ruaok
The q was:
2003-05-02 12213, 2003
ruaok
Can we tell from our logs how many people request mb tagger downloads last month?
2003-05-02 12230, 2003
ruaok
/usage tells me the ones that were downloaded from us.
2003-05-02 12243, 2003
ruaok
can we tell from the logs how many people we sent to the mirrors?
2003-05-02 12251, 2003
djce
as long as the logs go back far enough, then yes.
2003-05-02 12208, 2003
ruaok
I'd like to setup some metrics to track our tagger downloads and our donations.
2003-05-02 12221, 2003
phidauex
to see if your nag screen helps ;)
2003-05-02 12229, 2003
ruaok
I'm tinkering with excel trying to figure out how long it might take to become self sufficient.
2003-05-02 12237, 2003
ruaok
It did.
2003-05-02 12239, 2003
djce
something like: grep /selectmirror/pub/musicbrainz/tagger-blah-blah.exe or something.
2003-05-02 12202, 2003
ruaok
I tossed out a tagger release, and left for .jp and etech without hyping the tagger, and we got $160 in donations.
2003-05-02 12215, 2003
phidauex
excellent
2003-05-02 12216, 2003
ruaok
I wonder how that changes when we do hype the tagger.
2003-05-02 12236, 2003
ruaok
How long until I can live off that? That is the question I want to answer.
how are you willing to live, is the real question, ruaok ;)
2003-05-02 12222, 2003
phidauex
160 a month could keep you alive, if you lowered your standards a bit
2003-05-02 12232, 2003
phidauex
er, a lot
2003-05-02 12239, 2003
djce
ruaok already has low standards ;-)
2003-05-02 12244, 2003
ruaok
Yeah, but the debt I've racked up working MB is not going away. :-(
2003-05-02 12254, 2003
ruaok
djce: you're right.
2003-05-02 12207, 2003
ruaok
I eat a lot of home made bread -- its cheap.
2003-05-02 12227, 2003
djce
some people would pay extra for that!
2003-05-02 12239, 2003
ruaok
But I'm shooting for $2000/month income -- that is $24k/year. Barely above poverty level.
2003-05-02 12246, 2003
phidauex
what?
2003-05-02 12247, 2003
phidauex
lol
2003-05-02 12253, 2003
phidauex
i make 8 bucks an hour working half time
2003-05-02 12217, 2003
phidauex
i felt like a goddamn king when i was making 24k doing AV support
2003-05-02 12219, 2003
ruaok
:-(
2003-05-02 12223, 2003
phidauex
i didn't know what to do with all the money ;)
2003-05-02 12245, 2003
phidauex
i used to live in a van, ruaok ;)
2003-05-02 12250, 2003
ruaok
dude.
2003-05-02 12258, 2003
ruaok
I have certain standards...
2003-05-02 12203, 2003
phidauex
i understand though, california is a different animal too :)
2003-05-02 12212, 2003
ruaok
A depenable car, decent food.
2003-05-02 12217, 2003
phidauex
i pay about a third what i'd pay in california for similar rent
2003-05-02 12223, 2003
djce
all those personal trainers don't come cheap either ;-)
2003-05-02 12229, 2003
ruaok
:-)
2003-05-02 12239, 2003
ruaok
Plus I pay two rents -- one for the office and one for home.
2003-05-02 12258, 2003
ruaok
Back in 99 when I worked for EMusic, those were the times.
2003-05-02 12202, 2003
phidauex
you are right, if i were living in california, i think about 20k-22k would be about as little as i'd want to make to be comfortable
2003-05-02 12210, 2003
ruaok
Yup.
2003-05-02 12218, 2003
ruaok
$20k is the official poverty line in CA.
2003-05-02 12241, 2003
phidauex
when i actually was living in california i made less than that by a good margin, but i lived in an abandoned warehouse, so it wasn't so bad :D
2003-05-02 12206, 2003
phidauex
those were the day
2003-05-02 12208, 2003
ruaok
I've been really lucky.
2003-05-02 12215, 2003
ruaok
To say the least.
2003-05-02 12218, 2003
phidauex
you've got mad skillz
2003-05-02 12222, 2003
phidauex
thats part of it
2003-05-02 12230, 2003
ruaok
thx
2003-05-02 12238, 2003
phidauex
at the time, i had some skillz, and a lot of impulse ;)
2003-05-02 12213, 2003
phidauex
i had a great time, and i wouldn't trade the experiences for anything, but i'm glad i'm not so 'hey lets move across the country for no reason and squat in a warehouse'
2003-05-02 12236, 2003
ruaok
The .jp article is already generting some interest. :-)
