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      • djce
        scrub that.

        • 2003-04-03 09305, 2003

      • djce
        If the track artist == the album artist

        • 2003-04-03 09341, 2003

      • djce
        Then it considers that you're doing a first-time VA-conversion, and auto-splits the track name.

        • 2003-04-03 09346, 2003

      • ruaok
        it did this exact thing when I first converted the album and answered yes to converint the tracks.

        • 2003-04-03 09359, 2003

      • djce
        on a different album?

        • 2003-04-03 09318, 2003

      • ruaok
        this album. I originally pulled it out of one of the suggestions.

        • 2003-04-03 09300, 2003

      • djce
        Ah. so this is a side-effect of the modbot not running perhaps? In a way

        • 2003-04-03 09332, 2003

      • ruaok
        modbot should be running.

        • 2003-04-03 09340, 2003

      • ruaok
        every 10 I think.

        • 2003-04-03 09348, 2003

      • djce
        Oh yes, your server. I forgot :-)

        • 2003-04-03 09315, 2003

      • djce
        So maybe a workaround would be as follows:

        • 2003-04-03 09339, 2003

      • djce
        if the album artist == the track artist /or/ all the track artists are the same,

        • 2003-04-03 09347, 2003

      • djce
        then auto-split. Otherwise not.

        • 2003-04-03 09336, 2003

      • ruaok
        what if a moderation gets applied before the user is done with the album.

        • 2003-04-03 09359, 2003

      • ruaok
        that would change the behaviour of the process part of the way through...

        • 2003-04-03 09312, 2003

      • djce
        Mmmm. Not sure, I'm having trouble understanding this this morning.

        • 2003-04-03 09325, 2003

      • djce
        I know that I was specifically trying to address a particular bug in SF

        • 2003-04-03 09340, 2003

      • ruaok
        ok.

        • 2003-04-03 09345, 2003

      • djce digs out the bug #

        • 2003-04-03 09304, 2003

      • djce
        #689150

        • 2003-04-03 09311, 2003

      • djce
        http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=det…

        • 2003-04-03 09358, 2003

      • ruaok
        I see.

        • 2003-04-03 09316, 2003

      • ruaok ponders

        • 2003-04-03 09345, 2003

      • ruaok
        we could add a flag to the changetrack that tells it to split or not to split.

        • 2003-04-03 09310, 2003

      • ruaok
        we could add another javascript button that also does a split.

        • 2003-04-03 09347, 2003

      • djce
        OK, that's good.

        • 2003-04-03 09300, 2003

      • djce
        We can just make the "use guessed" button do the split in both cases.

        • 2003-04-03 09314, 2003

      • ruaok
        sure...

        • 2003-04-03 09327, 2003

      • djce
        A couple of extra vars in the page... a pair for "default", a pair for "guessed", a pair for "current".

        • 2003-04-03 09306, 2003

      • djce
        BTW is the staging server codebase just the latest HEAD?

        • 2003-04-03 09340, 2003

      • ruaok
        Not sure when I did the last update.

        • 2003-04-03 09355, 2003

      • ruaok
        should I update just in case?

        • 2003-04-03 09304, 2003

      • djce
        I'll tag my codebase. Please update to my tag, to be sure there are no changes.

        • 2003-04-03 09306, 2003

      • djce
        Wait a mo...

        • 2003-04-03 09351, 2003

      • ruaok
        the track name problem page is really killer!

        • 2003-04-03 09314, 2003

      • djce
        btw I'm out tomorrow evening, so releasing is probably no-go then, unless you want to do it.

        • 2003-04-03 09341, 2003

      • ruaok
        sat perhaps?

        • 2003-04-03 09351, 2003

      • djce
        good for me

        • 2003-04-03 09300, 2003

      • ruaok
        suggest a time.

        • 2003-04-03 09344, 2003

      • djce
        err, let's say 8pm BST, that's 7pm UTC, 11am PST. I think.

        • 2003-04-03 09347, 2003

      • djce
        is that ok?

        • 2003-04-03 09301, 2003

      • ruaok
        11am is perfect.

        • 2003-04-03 09315, 2003

      • ruaok
        got tag?

        • 2003-04-03 09339, 2003

      • ruaok wonders if dave knows he's late for work

        • 2003-04-03 09342, 2003

      • djce
        OK, try updating to RELEASE_20030404-RC1

        • 2003-04-03 09347, 2003

      • djce
        yes, he knows :-)

        • 2003-04-03 09351, 2003

      • ruaok
        :-)

        • 2003-04-03 09348, 2003

      • ruaok
        RCS file: /var/cvs/mb_server/admin/handler-dist.pl,v

        • 2003-04-03 09349, 2003

      • ruaok
        Merging differences between 1.26 and 1.27 into handler-dist.pl

        • 2003-04-03 09359, 2003

      • ruaok
        Merging differences between 1.9 and 1.10 into CreateTables.sql

        • 2003-04-03 09309, 2003

      • ruaok
        Merging differences between 1.2 and 1.3 into WordTables20030321.sql

        • 2003-04-03 09317, 2003

      • ruaok
        Merging differences between 1.32 and 1.34 into SearchEngine.pm

        • 2003-04-03 09328, 2003

      • djce
        does that mean you're patching forwards, or backwards?

        • 2003-04-03 09341, 2003

      • ruaok
        I just updated to the tag.

        • 2003-04-03 09351, 2003

      • ruaok
        should I just nuke those files and re up?

        • 2003-04-03 09313, 2003

      • djce
        If you like. It's safer, for sure.

        • 2003-04-03 09353, 2003

      • djce
        Right, I must leave you to it.

        • 2003-04-03 09357, 2003

      • djce
        Night!

        • 2003-04-03 09305, 2003

      • ruaok
        ok

        • 2003-04-03 09308, 2003

      • ruaok
        have a good day

        • 2003-04-03 09316, 2003

      • djce
        thanks. Catch you later

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      • ruaok
        for your backlog reading pleasure:

        • 2003-04-03 09301, 2003

      • ruaok
        the RELEASE_20030404-RC1 is now active

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        icepick-away is now known as icepick

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        icepick is now known as icepick-away

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        icepick-away is now known as icepick

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      • djce
        Morning!

        • 2003-04-03 09326, 2003

      • ruaok
        evening!

        • 2003-04-03 09334, 2003

      • djce
        I've /just/ mailed mb-users with a plea for testing volunteers.

        • 2003-04-03 09348, 2003

      • ruaok wonders why we are always so contrarian.

        • 2003-04-03 09357, 2003

      • ruaok
        good.

        • 2003-04-03 09316, 2003

      • ruaok
        personally, I think things look quite good.

        • 2003-04-03 09339, 2003

      • djce
        Yes. The only bit which concerns me is all the moderation web forms.

        • 2003-04-03 09354, 2003

      • djce
        That's just because, although conceptually the changes were simple, the diffs were complex.

        • 2003-04-03 09305, 2003

      • djce
        So it's hard to prove to oneself that the changes are correct.

        • 2003-04-03 09307, 2003

      • ruaok
        I walked through quite a few of them yesterday...

        • 2003-04-03 09316, 2003

      • ruaok
        understood.

        • 2003-04-03 09324, 2003

      • djce
        That's good. I haven't really, not since originally coding them.

        • 2003-04-03 09353, 2003

      • djce
        "server version: 2003-04-05-RC1" - I hope :-)

        • 2003-04-03 09313, 2003

      • djce
        So is there a preview binary of the tagger to test?

        • 2003-04-03 09351, 2003

      • djce belatedly turns his wall calendar to "April"

        • 2003-04-03 09304, 2003

      • ruaok
        yes. I posted about it yesterday.

        • 2003-04-03 09308, 2003

      • ruaok
        0.9.0-test1

        • 2003-04-03 09326, 2003

      • djce
        ok

        • 2003-04-03 09324, 2003

      • ruaok
        so far I've not had any comments on it.

        • 2003-04-03 09326, 2003

      • djce
        Time to fire up my wife's Windows box so I can play

        • 2003-04-03 09331, 2003

      • ruaok
        I suppose no news is good news.

        • 2003-04-03 09334, 2003

      • djce
        /I'll/ comment ;-)

        • 2003-04-03 09337, 2003

      • ruaok
        damn.

        • 2003-04-03 09341, 2003

      • djce
        when I've tried it

        • 2003-04-03 09357, 2003

      • djce
        (damn, forgot to ask about the icons.)

        • 2003-04-03 09309, 2003

      • djce
        About the tagger...

        • 2003-04-03 09332, 2003

      • djce
        In the installation process, it asks about making the tagger the default CD player app.

        • 2003-04-03 09346, 2003

      • djce
        I've never said "yes" yet, but I've noticed it's the default.

        • 2003-04-03 09359, 2003

      • djce
        Has anybody requested the default be "no" ?

        • 2003-04-03 09303, 2003

      • ruaok
        not yet.

        • 2003-04-03 09322, 2003

      • phidauex
        i'm formally requesting that the default be no

        • 2003-04-03 09325, 2003

      • phidauex
        ;)

        • 2003-04-03 09329, 2003

      • djce
        I'm assuming that having the tagger set to your CD-app-thing makes it pretty hard to actually /play/ the cd, does it?

        • 2003-04-03 09346, 2003

      • ruaok
        yeah, but who uses CDs?

        • 2003-04-03 09351, 2003

      • ruaok
        :-)

        • 2003-04-03 09321, 2003

      • djce
        hmmm. some answer!

        • 2003-04-03 09329, 2003

      • djce
        ouch. an error. let me transcribe it...

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      • djce
        Access violation at address 66806730 in SHELL32.DLL, Read of address FFFFFFFF

        • 2003-04-03 09329, 2003

      • djce
        That was after going into the options screen, changing a couple of things, then it did it when I clicked OK

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      • ruaok
        ugh.

        • 2003-04-03 09349, 2003

      • ruaok
        can you try and reproduce it?

        • 2003-04-03 09349, 2003

      • djce
        No, I lie, not OK. sorry.

        • 2003-04-03 09306, 2003

      • djce
        When I clicked "Browse" next to "move tagged files to..."

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      • djce
        I'll try.

        • 2003-04-03 09344, 2003

      • djce
        Yup, same again.

        • 2003-04-03 09349, 2003

      • jsimmons
        G'day, gang. Any objections to me hacking on logwatch so that we get a summary of ANON proftpd logins instead of a complete list in the email we get every day?

        • 2003-04-03 09351, 2003

      • djce
        This is on Win98 with IE 5.5

        • 2003-04-03 09311, 2003

      • djce
        Crack on. I've never understood logwatch anyway!

        • 2003-04-03 09313, 2003

      • djce
        ruaok: to reproduce (for me): start tagger, dismiss nag, open options dialog, go to "Directories" tag, check "move tagged files to this directory", click "Browse".

        • 2003-04-03 09358, 2003

      • ruaok
        jsimmons: sure.

        • 2003-04-03 09310, 2003

      • ruaok
        djce: ok, I think I know what the problem us.

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      • djce
        After the crash dialog message is dismissed, the app is unresponsive, as if it's waiting for you to complete the "browse" dialog which /should/ have appeared. But it never did appear, so the tagger has to be killed.

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      • djce
        cool

        • 2003-04-03 09344, 2003

      • djce
        I'll keep playing, pending a workaround or -test-2

        • 2003-04-03 09300, 2003

      • ruaok
        workaround:

        • 2003-04-03 09310, 2003

      • ruaok
        check the box, type some text into the field and then hit browse.

        • 2003-04-03 09321, 2003

      • djce
        FYI, exactly the same crash on the other "browse" button just below.

        • 2003-04-03 09322, 2003

      • djce
        ok

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      • djce
        workaround successful :-)

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      • rudolf
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      • rudolf
        Look ma, I'm on Windows!

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      • rudolf
        another crash :-(

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      • rudolf
        module ID3LIB.DLL at 017f:006b4ca4.

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      • rudolf
        Looks like it's a specific input file. I'll try to confirm...

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      • ruaok
        if so, mail me the file or stick it onto zim

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      • rudolf
        No wait, that's not quite it.

        • 2003-04-03 09331, 2003

      • rudolf
        The problem is the file /before/, which fails to decode.

        • 2003-04-03 09350, 2003

      • rudolf
        After failing to decode that file, trying to process any other file causes the crash.

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      • rudolf
        I'll provide you the "file before".

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