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anybody actually here?

nope =)

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haha, sorry, its just that last time I visited, people were logged in but not responding

I had a question about the Authenticate function of the client lib and thought i would try here before the mailing list

the documentation in the actual implementation and the doxygen generated stuff seems to say that it will return true even if the password is wrong

i.e. that Authenticate just starts the process and the actual verification happens on submission

is this correct?

I've not used it personally

ruaok: get my patch?

one sec.

yes, I saw it, but I haven't looked at it yet. :-(

np

figured you'd be busy over the weekend anyway

yup. I'll check it out tomorrow morning...

ewen: this is correct.

The system uses a challenge-response authentication method and it cannot know if the authentication was correct until the actual submission happens.

ruaok: ok thanks

np

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ruaok|pack: is the sql schema for the musicbrainz meta data up somewhere?

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hello?

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dvtoo: I'm checking out your latest patch...

Is it time for CVS write access you yet???

for you that is??

heh

up to you

I think you qualify.

ok =)

it's what, cvs over ssh?

Send me a login name and md5 crypted password and I will set it up.

yup.

ok, will do =)

I'll still hand apply this patch.

what do you recommend for md5 passwords? htpasswd looks to do them

I usually just grab one out of /etc/passwd

yah, don't run md5 passwords here

I'll try htpassword

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I'm logging. I don't understand 'hey', djce. Try /msg MBChatLogger help

good :-)

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dvtoo: your account is live

ruaok: I'm just about certain the server release will be best left until after BM

I'm not around tomorrow evening

So TBH I think the next two weeks or so could be spent testing, to good effect.

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djce: sounds good...

ok

I'll just go and focus my efforts on the tagger...

time to reboot.

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ruaok: Can I interrupt with a quick question?

dvtoo: I'm gshoot

erk.

djce: shoot

ok.

dvtoo: never mind me. I'm and idiot.

heh, np

mb_client requests mq*.pl, right?

and there's also rdf*.pl

yup

What queries rdf*.pl? Is that just "whoever wants to", but nothing in particular?

You'll recall the rewrite rules in the httpd.conf... Those rewrite rules map /artist/MBID to rdf.pl

and /album /track /trmid

And the client calls those as well.

So those URLs are the "official API", if such a thing exists? As opposed to the /cgi-bin/rdf*..... URLs?

official, shortcut, what have you.

They are the nice/clean versions of the URL.

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Could you point me towards an example of where the client requests the RDF stuff, not the MQ script?

In theory one could surf the RDF space by using only HTTP GET requests to those URLs.

hey ruaok, is the sql schema or a sql dump of the mb metadata available?

Mutiny: of course. just go to the download site and knock yourself out.

the dumps are updated daily.

djce: one sec

Mutiny: they're not SQL dumps actually (i.e. they're not SQL scripts), but they are complete, portable dumps of the database.

djce: find your source of mb_client

yes...?

vi lib/queries.h

/URL

(search for URL)

Ah, OK. Thanks.

those queries listed there will access the rdf.pl script

np

I hope that answered your question fully.

Mutiny: for the schema, you could do worse than starting at http://cvs.musicbrainz.org/cvs/mb_server/admin/... and reading the Create*.sql scripts.

ruaok: Yes thanks, I'll look into that. I'm just trying to get a general feel for how that MQ/RDF stuff works.

dvtoo: your latest mp3.c changes seem to be too restrictive. I've got some files that no longer get decoded properly. Do you want a file to check out?

djce: cool

sure

ok, lemme upload it.

it should work on everything it did before, if it doesn't, it's probably a bug

gimme a minuite.