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      • icepick
        this is to test my id3 parsing lib

        • 2003-07-17 19832, 2003

      • yalaforge
        ok. where do I get that script?

        • 2003-07-17 19857, 2003

      • icepick
        uploading...

        • 2003-07-17 19800, 2003

      • yalaforge
        Heh, wait. I wrote all the tags manually using id3v2(1) or MP3::Tag

        • 2003-07-17 19810, 2003

      • yalaforge
        still interested?

        • 2003-07-17 19831, 2003

      • alus
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      • paradime
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      • alus_
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        • 2003-07-17 19827, 2003

      • icepick
        yalaforge: yes... I'm looking for anything that might trip me up

        • 2003-07-17 19842, 2003

      • icepick
        http://icepick.info/findtags.py

        • 2003-07-17 19826, 2003

      • yalaforge
        Seems like I don't need any modules, right?

        • 2003-07-17 19848, 2003

      • icepick
        nope... I cut and pasted all the code needed

        • 2003-07-17 19803, 2003

      • yalaforge
        ok, thanks

        • 2003-07-17 19830, 2003

      • icepick
        Mutiny: all that bit banging you saw was from the orig pyid3. I didn't write it but I will look at struct to see if it will sufice.... not sure it will

        • 2003-07-17 19802, 2003

      • yalaforge
        icepick: ok, done

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      • icepick
        yalaforge: tarball it... and donno... email it to me I guess icepick@icepick.info

        • 2003-07-17 19836, 2003

      • yalaforge
        ok, but promise me you won't give the tags to anyone else

        • 2003-07-17 19822, 2003

      • icepick
        sure...

        • 2003-07-17 19829, 2003

      • icepick
        I keep them seperate

        • 2003-07-17 19838, 2003

      • icepick
        why would I not what to share them?

        • 2003-07-17 19844, 2003

      • alus_
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        • 2003-07-17 19809, 2003

      • yalaforge
        I don't know. I'm no lawyer

        • 2003-07-17 19817, 2003

      • yalaforge
        ok, the mail is on its way

        • 2003-07-17 19821, 2003

      • icepick
        thanks...

        • 2003-07-17 19858, 2003

      • icepick
        I would like to collect more sample tags... with ever permutation you can have...

        • 2003-07-17 19830, 2003

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      • alus_
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      • alus_
        alus_ is now known as alus

        • 2003-07-17 19853, 2003

      • djce
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      • ruaok
        evening djce!

        • 2003-07-17 19808, 2003

      • djce
        hi there

        • 2003-07-17 19801, 2003

      • ruaok
        bad timing. I gotta run to lunch. Back in an hour.

        • 2003-07-17 19806, 2003

      • ruaok
        ruaok is now known as ruaok|lunch

        • 2003-07-17 19814, 2003

      • djce
        :-) np

        • 2003-07-17 19805, 2003

      • yalaforge is away: football

        • 2003-07-17 19856, 2003

      • djce is away: I'm busy

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      • yalaforge is back (gone 01:01:56)

        • 2003-07-17 19851, 2003

      • verus
        i ran findtags on mine =]

        • 2003-07-17 19816, 2003

      • verus
        2687 tags do you want them icepick

        • 2003-07-17 19834, 2003

      • icepick
        sure... esp if they are raw from the wilds of the internet

        • 2003-07-17 19849, 2003

      • verus
        oh then you wouldn't want them

        • 2003-07-17 19855, 2003

      • verus
        they are tunetaggered onces

        • 2003-07-17 19805, 2003

      • yalaforge
        my tags are pretty boring, hm?

        • 2003-07-17 19808, 2003

      • icepick
        ahh...

        • 2003-07-17 19824, 2003

      • icepick
        I should try tagging with itunes and wmp

        • 2003-07-17 19823, 2003

      • yalaforge
        I've got some with id3v2.2

        • 2003-07-17 19820, 2003

      • icepick
        2.2 tags are my lowest priority... might just write code that will update them to 2.3/2.4 with out allowing write access

        • 2003-07-17 19836, 2003

      • icepick
        but so far I've found less 2.4 tags than 2.4

        • 2003-07-17 19817, 2003

      • yalaforge
        the v2.2 stuff has been encoded by itunes

        • 2003-07-17 19831, 2003

      • yalaforge
        I don't know if itunes still uses 2.2

        • 2003-07-17 19834, 2003

      • icepick
        really ? that's yucky

        • 2003-07-17 19845, 2003

      • yalaforge
        TEN (Encoded by): iTunes v2.0.2

        • 2003-07-17 19859, 2003

      • yalaforge
        that's what your id3v2(1) says

        • 2003-07-17 19834, 2003

      • icepick
        I need to "upgrade" id3v2(1) and make it a python app

        • 2003-07-17 19845, 2003

      • yalaforge
        that would be great

        • 2003-07-17 19801, 2003

      • yalaforge has quit

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      • ruaok|lunch
        ruaok|lunch is now known as ruaok

        • 2003-07-17 19806, 2003

      • ruaok
        Wow. I just had a 1.5 hour conversation with our IP lawyer.

        • 2003-07-17 19842, 2003

      • ruaok
        Quite interesting all around. Seems like we're in good shape and now we have some more direction on some of the legal issues that were pending.

        • 2003-07-17 19839, 2003

      • ruaok
        I may not ever get more code written, but at least we're less likely to get sued.

        • 2003-07-17 19812, 2003

      • djce is back (gone 01:54:17)

        • 2003-07-17 19819, 2003

      • ruaok
        wb

        • 2003-07-17 19850, 2003

      • ruaok
        djce: I have the legal framework/limitations for the copyprotected CD issue in place.

        • 2003-07-17 19854, 2003

      • djce
        the above: good news

        • 2003-07-17 19800, 2003

      • djce
        excellent

        • 2003-07-17 19804, 2003

      • ruaok
        Its time for me to get back to Peter and let him know how to proceed.

        • 2003-07-17 19831, 2003

      • ruaok
        And, as long as we provide a DMCA take down notice and register a take down notice agent with the copyright office, our Arbitraty URL feature should be legally in the clear.

        • 2003-07-17 19853, 2003

      • ruaok should learn to spell arbitrarrary

        • 2003-07-17 19804, 2003

      • djce
        me too :-)

        • 2003-07-17 19806, 2003

      • ruaok
        I'm jazzed.

        • 2003-07-17 19833, 2003

      • djce
        what does the "register a take down notice agent"... bit mean?

        • 2003-07-17 19859, 2003

      • djce
        Someone has to be a nominated person to enact the removals?

        • 2003-07-17 19818, 2003

      • ruaok
        Yes.

        • 2003-07-17 19836, 2003

      • djce
        That doesn't sound too onerous.

        • 2003-07-17 19849, 2003

      • ruaok
        We will need to pay $25 to the copyright office (US) to register ourselves as a takedown agent.

        • 2003-07-17 19803, 2003

      • djce
        yearly fee?

        • 2003-07-17 19818, 2003

      • ruaok
        In case one of the links violates someone's copyright, that agent would be notified to take down the offending content.

        • 2003-07-17 19823, 2003

      • icepick
        icepick is now known as icepick-away

        • 2003-07-17 19825, 2003

      • ruaok
        once, I believe.

        • 2003-07-17 19800, 2003

      • ruaok
        Then it would be our job to remove the offending link within 24 - 72 hours to be good citizens and not get our asses sued off.

        • 2003-07-17 19800, 2003

      • djce
        Who would be registered? A real person, with a phone number etc? Or an e-mail address or other contact point?

        • 2003-07-17 19815, 2003

      • ruaok
        The former -- I would register myself.

        • 2003-07-17 19830, 2003

      • ruaok
        As an official representative of the MB non-profit.

        • 2003-07-17 19853, 2003

      • djce
        ok, that all sounds cool.

        • 2003-07-17 19807, 2003

      • ruaok
        But, I could turn this around and pass it on to a trusted team of MB experts to address.

        • 2003-07-17 19826, 2003

      • ruaok
        Yes, I'm pleased by this conversation.

        • 2003-07-17 19850, 2003

      • djce
        it's great news, if it allows progress to be made on the .dk front

        • 2003-07-17 19852, 2003

      • ruaok
        He had a lot of positive things to say about our proactive nature to identifying and addressing legal issues.

        • 2003-07-17 19856, 2003

      • Mutiny
        icepick-away: You got my email right?

        • 2003-07-17 19818, 2003

      • ruaok
        djce: it should. I will draft a mail to Peter today.

        • 2003-07-17 19823, 2003

      • djce
        ruaok: self-preservation is a powerful force :-)

        • 2003-07-17 19835, 2003

      • ruaok
        There are a number of emails that I am slacking on.

        • 2003-07-17 19840, 2003

      • ruaok
        Including my report from OSCON.

        • 2003-07-17 19806, 2003

      • djce
        I'm just slacking on code :-( I've not been very productive for the last few weeks, I'm afraid to say.

        • 2003-07-17 19819, 2003

      • ruaok
        You and me both. :-(

        • 2003-07-17 19826, 2003

      • ruaok
        But summer will do that to you.

        • 2003-07-17 19836, 2003

      • ruaok
        Summer is the least productive for me.

        • 2003-07-17 19843, 2003

      • djce
        I think so. I blame summer for all sorts of woes.

        • 2003-07-17 19802, 2003

      • ruaok
        But I'm looking forward to the post BM time -- things quiet down and I get TONS of work done in the fall.

        • 2003-07-17 19828, 2003

      • djce
        BM is September isn't it?

        • 2003-07-17 19830, 2003

      • ruaok
        I'm looking forward to your add moderation note at time of moderation feature.

        • 2003-07-17 19843, 2003

      • ruaok
        Aug 25th - Sept 2nd.

        • 2003-07-17 19854, 2003

      • ruaok
        But we leave on Aug 22nd and return on Sept 3rd.

        • 2003-07-17 19856, 2003

      • djce
        Preparations going well, I hope.

        • 2003-07-17 19803, 2003

      • ruaok
        Personally, yes.

        • 2003-07-17 19810, 2003

      • ruaok
        THe art car is lagging. :-(

        • 2003-07-17 19817, 2003

      • ruaok
        We've had to scale down our plans.

        • 2003-07-17 19826, 2003

      • ruaok
        Its more car than art. :-(

        • 2003-07-17 19834, 2003

      • ruaok
        But its a cool looking car.

        • 2003-07-17 19845, 2003

      • ruaok
        http://mayhem-chaos.net/stuff/artcar

        • 2003-07-17 19804, 2003

      • ruaok
        I welded large chunks of the roofs and the stairs to the top of the car.

        • 2003-07-17 19811, 2003

      • ruaok
        Welding is fun.

        • 2003-07-17 19819, 2003

      • ruaok
        Kinda like really hot hotglue. :-)

        • 2003-07-17 19829, 2003

      • djce
        looks kinda fun :-)

        • 2003-07-17 19835, 2003

      • ruaok
        It is.

        • 2003-07-17 19844, 2003

      • ruaok
        I can't wait to get back to server programming.

        • 2003-07-17 19852, 2003

      • ruaok
        Its always more fun to work with someone on something.

        • 2003-07-17 19807, 2003

      • ruaok
        But no programming for me today.

        • 2003-07-17 19815, 2003

      • ruaok
        I've got another dozen long emails to send.

        • 2003-07-17 19821, 2003

      • ruaok
        Managing sucks sometimes.

        • 2003-07-17 19849, 2003

      • djce
        Small distraction: did you see http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,59654,0… yet? Man, they must be smoking something.

        • 2003-07-17 19822, 2003

      • ruaok
        Not shit.

        • 2003-07-17 19834, 2003

      • djce
        Gotta love the USA and its law-exporting business :-(

        • 2003-07-17 19842, 2003

      • ruaok
        US jails are OVERCROWDED with pot smokers and other people who committed victimless crimes.

        • 2003-07-17 19858, 2003

      • ruaok
        Can you imagine getting put in the slammer for this?

        • 2003-07-17 19812, 2003

      • djce despairs and shakes his head

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      • ruaok
        Bruno, the rapist: Whaddya in fer?

        • 2003-07-17 19827, 2003

      • ruaok
        Tom, the filesharer: Downloading Britney Spear's album.

        • 2003-07-17 19850, 2003

      • ruaok things Bruno will have fun with Tom.

        • 2003-07-17 19852, 2003

      • ruaok
        thinks

        • 2003-07-17 19808, 2003

      • ruaok
        WTF? Where do these people think they are coming from?

        • 2003-07-17 19819, 2003

      • djce
        their own kingdom, I think.

        • 2003-07-17 19804, 2003

      • ruaok
        Which kingdom would that be? The kingdom of the RIAA?

        • 2003-07-17 19807, 2003

      • ruaok
        MPAA?

        • 2003-07-17 19823, 2003

      • djce
        yes, those two.

        • 2003-07-17 19818, 2003

      • djce
        The kingdom of whichever-corporation-I-work-for, with the US Federal Govt. as the enforcement department of that company.

        • 2003-07-17 19821, 2003

      • djce grumbles

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      • Mutiny-
        Mutiny- is now known as Mutiny

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