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      • ruaok
        djce: it is up, but I haven't been able to nail down why I'm getting those errors.

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      • djce
        :-(

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      • ruaok
        Can't call method "handle_request" on an undefined value at /var/website/musicbrainz/prod/mb_server/cgi-bin/MusicBrainz/Server/Mason.pm line 189.

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      • ruaok
        $ah is undefined at that point.

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      • djce
        complete stop and start of apache required?

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      • ruaok
        doesn;t help much.

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      • ruaok
        restart complete.

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      • ruaok can't wait for the 1GB for test to arrive

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      • djce
        taaz: permissions changed

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      • taaz
        djce: thanks

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      • djce
        you're welcome

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      • taaz
        why the password thing?

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      • djce
        to stop spammer spidering

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      • taaz
        ah..

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      • djce
        We use the same technique on www.mb.org/usage

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      • Knio
        Knio is now known as Knio-dinner

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      • ruaok
        djce: what do you think about the 'must have a moderation note for add non-album track or we won't accept it' feature?

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      • ruaok
        I think its necessary.

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      • djce
        I wouldn't object.

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      • ruaok
        where should that go?

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      • djce
        I'd suggest that it should be strongly encouraged that the note should contain a URL with "evidence" if at all possible.

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      • djce
        anyway, g'nite!

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      • ruaok
        good idea.

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      • ruaok
        one sec.

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      • djce waits

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      • ruaok
        this new features -- on a branch or on the trunk?

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      • ruaok
        I'm about to create the PermanentLinks branch as well.

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      • ruaok
        Should I just stuff it in there as well?

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      • djce
        what new features, sorry?

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      • ruaok
        They are not related but both minor changes.

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      • ruaok
        The must have note/url for non alubm tracks.

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      • djce
        notes for NAT-adds?

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      • ruaok
        ya

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      • djce
        sounds small... trunk is probably ok

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      • ruaok
        ok

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      • ruaok
        g'niute

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      • kyleboon
        is it possible to see the percentage of mods voted on for artists that have subscribers, vrs artists that dont?

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      • kyleboon
        I think that would be an interesting stat

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      • ruaok
        I'm sure it is. Ask djce about it. I'm sure he'd be glad to run that query for you.

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      • ruaok smirks

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      • kyleboon
        heh

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      • kyleboon
        i was just thinking it might provide some insight to the whole voting debate

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      • ruaok
        I agree with that.

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      • danbri
        <logger> See http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/discovery/chatlogs/rdf…

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      • danbri
        from #rdfig

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      • danbri
        can anyone point danc in right direction?

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      • danbri
        hi btw

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      • danbri owes mail re MB schema

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      • yalaforge
        so you want the tracklist if you have the albumid, right?

        • 2003-12-19 35311, 2003

      • yalaforge
        danbri: still here?

        • 2003-12-19 35313, 2003

      • danbri
        yup

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      • yalaforge
        how do you want to access musicbrainz? via the C library, or creating your own query via HTTP?

        • 2003-12-19 35353, 2003

      • danbri
        HTTP

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      • yalaforge
        ok, I'll upload an example in a minute ...

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      • danbri
        oh fab, thanks :)

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      • yalaforge
        oh, wait: this is a simple special case:

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      • yalaforge
        http://mm.musicbrainz.org:80/mm-2.1/album/3eda226…

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      • danbri
        I don't quite follow

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      • yalaforge
        all you have to do is a GET on http://mm.musicbrainz.org:80/mm-2.1/album/3eda226…

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      • yalaforge
        try it using wget

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      • rjmunro
        I've moved my "Survival of the fittest" stuff to it's own wiki page. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?SurvivalOfThe…

        • 2003-12-19 35319, 2003

      • yalaforge is going to read it later

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      • danbri
        yr first url was a bit truncated, missing 1 char. works now!

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      • yalaforge
        danbri: cool

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      • danbri
        so given an albumid, how do I derrive this url?

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      • danbri
        <DanC> . http://www.musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid…

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      • danbri
        ...that kind of album id...

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      • danbri
        is 3eda2264-a2eb-408a-b65b-c74aeddf2b80/4 the real albumid?

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      • yalaforge
        this is a bit of a problem because this 'albumid' is a rowid of our database

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      • danbri
        MBChatLogger, pointer?

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      • MBChatLogger
        There is no log URI

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      • danbri
        is this chat online anywhere?

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      • yalaforge
        yes: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org

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      • yalaforge
        hm, I don't think there is a possibility to translate rowids to GUIDs. But the linking of the the website is going to change soon

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      • yalaforge
        I heard we'll be using GUIDs exclusively

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      • danbri
        how are the guids derrived? assigned when a new record is added? or a function of track info?

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      • yalaforge
        a GUID is a "globally unique id". anyone can generate them an it is still unique. It is 128 bits long

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      • yalaforge
        a GUID is generated when an artist/album/track is created

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      • yalaforge
        after creation it won't change

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      • danbri
        ah ok, they're literally guids, sorry

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      • danbri toys with asking about how records are merged together but should go do some other work first...

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      • yalaforge
        when two artists are merged, the target artist's GUID is discarded

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      • yalaforge
        err, source artist, of course

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      • yalaforge
        ok, time for dinner. I'll be back in 30 min

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      • rjmunro
        Does anyone have an opinion on survival of the fittest style moderation?

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      • yalaforge has started reading a minute ago

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      • ruaok
        danbri: hi there!