hawke1, I commented on the Code 39 barcode issue. Don't know if you still have any interest in that, but feedback appreciated if you are.
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hawke1
Leftmost: Yeah, I saw that. Your suggestion sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
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hawke1
Leftmost: I wouldn't recommend allowing the space though, because people will tend to enter the human-readable format instead of the correct barcode data.
2015-10-30 30318, 2015
hawke1
(for non-code39 barcodes that is)
2015-10-30 30351, 2015
hawke1
I guess "all-numeric barcodes will be stripped of all whitespace" covers that though.
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Leftmost
hawke1, I just wasn't sure if any of the barcodes actually contained a space or whether that was only ever in the human-readable.
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Leftmost
I haven't checked all of my BMG releases, and didn't have them on hand.
2015-10-30 30343, 2015
hawke1
Yeah, I'm not sure either.
2015-10-30 30305, 2015
hawke1
It is kinda funny to say "after years of thought and deliberation we've decided to allow the letter D" though.
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Leftmost
Haha.
2015-10-30 30349, 2015
kuno
hawke1: maybe not, I haven't tried to edit that release in years.
2015-10-30 30334, 2015
hawke1
kuno: Any opinion on whether I should try merging it?
2015-10-30 30332, 2015
kuno
hawke1: if it works, I have no object. it would be more accurate to have the real releases in that release group.
hawke1: Can you add links to the edits to the ticket?
2015-10-30 30344, 2015
hawke1
chirlu`: the edits didn't go through, so not really.
2015-10-30 30357, 2015
hawke1
chirlu`: it's easy to duplicate -- just attempt to merge any two or more releases with 'append' strategy, then submit without entering different medium numbers -- you'll see that the order of the releases switches around in the merge window.
2015-10-30 30321, 2015
hawke1
(And the order of the mediums below changes accordingly)
2015-10-30 30356, 2015
hawke1
I'll add a comment to that effect.
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hawke1
Probably should have been three separate bugs..one for the ARRAY display, one for the lack of an error message telling what went wrong, and one for the reordering. But oh well, fuck it.
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CallerNo6
the hawke1 swear jar is filling up this morning :-)
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hawke1
lol
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hawke1
CallerNo6: frustrating bit of work, was that. :-)
2015-10-30 30357, 2015
hawke1
Anybody officially know if recordings added through the quick-search popup are still considered standalone recordings even after being used on a release, and if those standalone recordings are given special treatment (presumably involving auto-deletion when unused) -- regarding the confusion on https://musicbrainz.org/edit/35685101
Apparently my RPi2 has lost connection or shut down or whatever at home.
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Freso|koume
I'm trying to reach a friend to power-cycle it.
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Freso|koume
I feel dirty using a GUI IRC client.
2015-10-30 30311, 2015
Freso|koume
hawke1, how does that work?
2015-10-30 30343, 2015
hawke1
Freso|koume: Basically the same as a discID -- it's a database of chapter durations for DVD.
2015-10-30 30318, 2015
Freso|koume
So a list of chapter durations can be calculated into a "dvdID"?
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JonnyJD
hawke1: but a DiscID is not the TOC
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hawke1
JonnyJD: Oh, that's true enough.
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JonnyJD
(although it is calculated from the TOC)
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hawke1
JonnyJD: still, the step from there to a hash of the TOC is not too far.
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hawke1
JonnyJD: And also, the ToC can pretty well substitute for a discID, though it is a little inconvenient for reference purposes.
2015-10-30 30352, 2015
JonnyJD
yes, but we only have an ID if we have a definiton how to "translate" any TOC into an ID
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chirlu`
hawke1: Recordings added separately are SARs.
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hawke1
chirlu`: but does the popup from the recording tab of the release editor count as "separately"?
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JonnyJD
technically, if you have a well-defined definition of the TOC (excluding differences in presentation) then this could be used as some kind of ID, though not one that is easy to handle
2015-10-30 30333, 2015
hawke1
JonnyJD: right, that's what I meant.
2015-10-30 30348, 2015
Tecfan
hey! is it not possible to add "composer" and "lyricists" on recordings as relation ship types anymore?
2015-10-30 30355, 2015
hawke1
JonnyJD: and presumably chapterdb has that in the backend API.
2015-10-30 30332, 2015
JonnyJD
anyways, if something like that is defined (couldn't find info at chapterdb) it might make sense to also implement it for MB
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JonnyJD
although I remember somebody saying this shouldn't be libdiscid but a new library then
2015-10-30 30309, 2015
hawke1
JonnyJD: I could see it being part of libdiscID (it does identify discs after all), though a lot of the technology would be pretty different.
2015-10-30 30316, 2015
hawke1
since DVDs are a little more high-level than CDs.
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JonnyJD
yep
2015-10-30 30325, 2015
JonnyJD
and then we should include BDs too then, DVD is somewhat of fading out..
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hawke1
Perhaps, but yeah chapterdb covers blu-ray and hd-dvd too.
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hawke1
(apparently ~3000 more BD than DVD. And only ~300 HD-DVD)
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hawke1
bitmap: I thought there was something that prevented SARs from being removed automatically?
2015-10-30 30358, 2015
hawke1
bitmap: or is it just that recordings in general never get removed automatically?
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bitmap
I'm not sure anymore :)
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bitmap
chirlu` is looking into it, apparently
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Freso|koume
Tecfan, that hasn't been possible for quite some time. :)
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Tecfan
but but but but it's still in the wiki :(
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Freso|koume
Tecfan, you have to add the relationships to the Work(s) associated with the Recording(s).
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Tecfan
trueee
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Tecfan
my mind is still in the old MB
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CallerNo6
Tecfan: what wiki page talks about pre-ngs rels? I'll nuke it.
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chirlu`
hawke1: End result: Recordings wont be removed if they have their own add-recording edit.
2015-10-30 30343, 2015
chirlu`
(As opposed to being created as part of an add-medium edit or similar.)
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Tecfan
none really, it's just that when you can't find "composer" you google "composer relationship type musicbrainz" and it takes you to a wiki page that insists the type exists and talks about "this work" like i know what this is :>. (i now know/remember what "works" are)
