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      • zas
        Can someone check https://goo.gl/6KcCJW edits ? i don't have time for that now, but it seems to me this will be a mess, editor is not new, but he has very few edits since 2009

        • 2015-12-04 33811, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, this looks just wrong

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      • reosarevok
        I'll no-vote and ask for explanations for now

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      • reosarevok
        Or well, try at least (enter_votes 504)

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      • reosarevok still trying

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      • Freso
        jesus2099: Ping

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      • reosarevok
        ok, this is kinda ridiculous

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      • reosarevok
        Still can't get the votes to send

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      • zas
        bitmap: ^^

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      • reosarevok
        Heh. It submitted from beta, somehow

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      • johtso
        ah, I thought we could add a specific credited as for things like conductor relationships, like you can with instruments

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      • johtso
        is that still in the works?

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      • johtso
        "credited as" just seems to be for variations of their name, not for more specific relationship titles

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      • reosarevok
        Yeah

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      • reosarevok
        I think that's specifically for instruments/vocals right now

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      • hawke
        What happens if an 'add release group' edit is voted down but the corresponding 'add release' edit is not?

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      • hawke
        Does the 'add release' fail?

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      • kepstin
        yeah, modbot would fail it when applying it, i think

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      • kepstin
        hmm. but the release group can't be removed while the release is still pending either

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      • kepstin doesn't know

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      • reosarevok
        I'd expect it just will fail to reject the add

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      • hawke
        Looking at https://musicbrainz.org/edit/36234164

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      • kepstin
        is the add release group an autoedit when adding a release?

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      • hawke
        Apparently not? :-)

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      • reosarevok
        If the user chooses to make all edits votable, then no

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      • reosarevok
        I'll merge

        • 2015-12-04 33818, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Oh, there's an open merge already

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      • kepstin
        so, has anyone figured out what's up with submitting votes/edit notes being so slow?

        • 2015-12-04 33821, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Dunno but I'd love to know :/

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      • reosarevok
        Haha, I see all of us commented

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      • kepstin
        but we couldn't, i bet we all wrote our posts, hit submit, and waited :)

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      • Leftmost votes to merge the edit notes.

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      • kepstin
        I wonder if we could change that system so if someone else has commented between when you last viewed the page and when you submit, it'll bring you back to review the new comments and resubmit

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      • reosarevok
        That'd be good

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      • reosarevok
        I dunno how common it is, for stuff that doesn't get posted in here, but still

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      • kepstin
        be tricky to handle for batch submissions, too

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      • Leftmost
        We just have to Web 3.0 that sucker. Automatically show new comments while you're writing.

        • 2015-12-04 33842, 2015

      • hawke
        Leftmost: that seems better, honestly. I'd be confused as to why my edit didn't go through unless it was made really clear somehow.

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      • kepstin
        at least all of our comments weren't exactly the same ;)

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      • CatQuest
        påååååååååå,.

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      • Leftmost
        På what?

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      • kepstin
        PiPiPiPARU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeBcFkvjE6M

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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

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      • CatQuest
        gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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      • CatQuest
        p trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-------------7.llll

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      • Clint
        uh-huh

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      • CatQuest
        おhcらp&p

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      • CatQuest
        oh crap

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      • CatQuest
        sorry!!!!

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      • CatQuest
        apparently my cat decied to type loads while I was doing disches

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      • CatQuest
        >____<

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      • drsaunde
        !m CatQuest's cat

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      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, CatQuest's cat!

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      • Lotheric
        A Cat Called Quest left his wallet in el keyboardo

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      • Leftmost
        CatQuest, so... your cat's pås were all over the keyboard?

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      • chirlu`
        [12:53:07] * reosarevok still trying

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      • chirlu`
        Well, they’ll have got the message, then. Twenty times or so. ;-)

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      • Leftmost
        I have a release with http://musicbrainz.org/label/be04fe66-c4cd-4a65-9… prominently displayed on the back and with an associated catno. Should I use http://musicbrainz.org/label/30c7b2eb-371b-487b-b… anyhow, even though the artwork clearly identifies "Nova Tekk Media + Distribution"?

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      • hawke1
        Leftmost: This logo? http://www.discogs.com/label/523036 I would say yes, but I'm working from my own understanding of what a label is.

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      • hawke1
        callerno6 might be less biased on the topic.

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      • reosarevok
        chirlu`: are we really sending the email even when we don't finish submitting the votes?

        • 2015-12-04 33813, 2015

      • hawke1
        (I wish we had label images...)

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      • reosarevok
        In that case shit, I hope I didn't scare some newbies away :/

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      • reosarevok
        (And if so this really should be hotfixed ASAP...)

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      • hawke1
        Leftmost: In fact I can't understand why basically everything at http://musicbrainz.org/label/30c7b2eb-371b-487b-b… isn't attached to "Nova Tekk Media + Distribution"

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      • hawke1
        Who came up with that "use only for distribution" ridiculousness?

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      • Leftmost
        Yep, that logo, hawke1.

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      • Leftmost
        It especially makes no sense with the catno starting with "NTD".

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      • hawke1
        Right, yes.

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      • hawke1
        are the "NT ####" Nova Tekk originals, and the "NTD" nova tekk distributed?

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      • hawke1
        I'm looking at http://musicbrainz.org/release/ed2bef74-2de2-4ca6… which says "distributed in germany by Soul Food" and has cat no "NT 30102" which seems to be Nova Tekk but obviously not NTD

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      • chirlu`
        reosarevok: Yes, we are.

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      • hawke1
        I see http://ia902507.us.archive.org/10/items/mbid-ed2b… has a slightly different Nova Tekk logo too.

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      • reosarevok
        Shit.

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      • kepstin
        reosarevok: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4858 3 year old issue :/

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      • chirlu`
        Older, only the ticket is from three years ago.

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      • chirlu`
        It only matters when something doesn’t work, i.e. from time to time.

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      • kepstin
        time to time is happening more often nowadays tho

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      • chirlu`
        Yes, my guess is that something might be slowing down sending emails at the moment.

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      • reosarevok
        How hard a fix is this? Do we know?

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      • reosarevok
        The transaction issue specifically

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      • chirlu`
        Well, to fix it properly is rather hard.

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      • chirlu`
        Not for GCi. :-)

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      • chirlu`
        I thought about doing something on the Perl side only, that would be easier.

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      • chirlu`
        But might mean emails are lost instead, if things go wrong.

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      • chirlu`
        *when

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      • hawke1
        Leftmost: Is the separator between "Media" and "distribution" definitely a +? Or is it a stylized bullet point?

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      • humhumxx
        why are some add release edits still put to vote? and why does that entail add release group and add mediume edits?

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      • kepstin
        well, add release, add release group, and add medium are always going to be separate edits due to the way the database and edit system is structured.

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      • kepstin
        (not really "always", but it's gonna be like that for a while)

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      • chirlu`
        People can choose to make their edits votable.

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      • kepstin
        but as for the add release going to vote, that's intentional.

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      • Leftmost
        hawke1, could be a bullet point, looking closely. Especially given that the legal name appears to be Nova Tekk Media Distribution GmbH.

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      • kepstin
        oh, wait, is release addition an autoedit for everyone now?

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      • bitmap
        they can still be put to a vote if the user checks the 'Make all edits votable' checkbox

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      • bitmap
        kepstin, yes

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      • kepstin had to re-read the blog post before he remembered that :)

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      • Leftmost
        I'm following my preferences on this and I'll start a discussion on removing the disambig and cleaning the label up.

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      • Leftmost
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/36255972 for anyone who wants to discuss the choice for that particular album further.

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      • kepstin
        huh, http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/04/casio-and-the-… is a neat read.

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      • Leftmost
        Why does my router keep enabling AP isolation? I don't want it enabled.

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      • Leftmost
        (And it keeps doing it while showing it as disabled.)

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      • dhampton
        I know its a three year old change, but is there any way to easily recreate the three releases that were destroyed by this change: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20248806 . While these albums may have been sold in cardboard sleeves as a three volume set, they were also sold individually in jewel boxes. I'm assuming that I just need to re-add the three CDs but wasn't sure if I hat to re-enter all the data or if I could some

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      • CatQuest
        hnngg..

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      • CatQuest
        well, I suppose I should be happy people are amused and not angry at the cat's spam

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      • chirlu`
        dhampton: You can use the release duplicate feature in the release editor to start from the existing release.

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