there's a standard way to encode isrcs in a particular subchannel; if you can read them at all, they're there
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kepstin
but the ability to read subchannel data from computer cdrom drives has always been iffy, and if a disk is poorly mastered as well... :/
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hibiscuskazeneko
This was a special case
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hibiscuskazeneko
My PC can read the ISRCs off most discs, but it can't find them on these 2 releases in my collection
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hibiscuskazeneko
but paradoxically, my Mac can find them
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kepstin
yeah, probably just a difference between the cdrom drives in the two computers
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kepstin
if you somehow put the drive from the mac into the pc, i bet it could read them there :)
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kepstin
sometimes using different software can help, because the command used to do the read - or maybe, the timing of the commands, makes a difference.
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kepstin
having looked into the format a bit, I'm really just amazed that we can read audio cds with any accuracy at all :/
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hibiscuskazeneko
I used the same program (isrcsubmit) for both
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hibiscuskazeneko
With all but those 2 releases, both drives found the ISRCs without incident
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hibiscuskazeneko
I wonder, is there some sort of code on the disc that obfuscates the ISRCs on PC drives (similar to some early CCCD encodings, in that Macs didn't recognize it at all)?
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Freso
hibiscuskazeneko: I'm pretty sure isrcsubmit uses a different backend on MAc OS X vs. Windows vs. Linux, so even if you call the same command, it's really different software actually doing the CD reading in the background - isrcsubmit is just parsing that software's output.
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JonnyJD
hibiscuskazeneko, Freso: The backend has different code for different systems and this usually depends on driver code on the system, too
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hibiscuskazeneko
That still doesn't fully explain why it can read most discs fine on multiple platforms with different hardware but not certain titles
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hibiscuskazeneko
Is there some new CD standard that isrcsubmit hasn't caught up with?
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Freso
As kepstin said, hardware is different, and software between platforms is different.
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Freso
Some hardware has some issues with the softwares, but not with others; some software has some issues with some hardwares, but not with others.
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Freso
So a CD that one hardware:software pair reads perfectly might be gibberish to another hardware:software pair.
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hibiscuskazeneko
If that were the case, wouldn't a larger number of titles be affected?
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Freso
Not really, because then the hardware and software makers would be out of a job. :)
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Freso
The hardware:software should be able to deal with far most things, but there will always be edge cases.
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hibiscuskazeneko
What causes that edge case is what I've been set out to find since last April
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Bitnova
Hi, i used to be able to see the green 'Tagger' on the songs when manual searching on musicbrainz, now all of a sudden the Tagger's are gone, can someone help me please???
I started by fixing the three volumes of the teacher's sonata recordings we had :p
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Freso
:p
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CatQuest is now known as zaphodbeeblebrox
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Catgroove is now known as CatCat
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squirrels
Onse small question: How do I add a 'Remastered' Edition? Same resease group as the original and adding 'Remastered' to Disambiguation? Or also in the title?
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squirrels
One*
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squirrels
I haven't found a relevant section in the documentation.
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kuno
squirrels: typically "Remastered" should only be in the disambiguation, not in the title
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squirrels
kuno: ok, thanks
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squirrels
and are the remastered songs still the same recording as on the original release? (I expect it's the case) Or does the remastering makes them to a different recording (by definition)?
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hawke
squirrels: same recording
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CatQuest
hmm there is one caveat though in mon0 vs stereo, tough. isn't there? or do i remember wrongly
(I see only a few were made so I guess nothing is actually recorded with them)
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reosarevok
Sure, why not
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CatQuest
yea that's the thing, but I I see that it's of "historical value" wich is something (freso?) said we als owant :)
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CatQuest
I was wondering though, for thingsliek this, maybe be unable to chose as instrument or something? it's of historical insterest but it's unlikely that here wil lbe recordings
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CatQuest
does this make it so it's more likly that peope lwould chose the wrong instrument?
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CatQuest
these spinetts/viginals are a pita because langues in 16th italy basically caleld everything "spinetta"
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CatQuest
buut. I guess people who dit in that area are aware of things lie kthis.. maybe?
