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      • CatQuest
        or german
      • 2017-01-11 01103, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        hehe
      • 2017-01-11 01116, 2017

      • CatQuest
        *for german
      • 2017-01-11 01121, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        if you need something translated, just ask.
      • 2017-01-11 01126, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        ^-^
      • 2017-01-11 01148, 2017

      • CatQuest
        you're the econd guy to oaffer, and I think you for it, but it's srot of, " need it at a seconds notice" so unless oyu're here.. idk
      • 2017-01-11 01125, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        just ask :p
      • 2017-01-11 01114, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        ask!!!!
      • 2017-01-11 01127, 2017

      • CatQuest
        ikke mas
      • 2017-01-11 01154, 2017

      • SothoTalKer
        japanese? :D
      • 2017-01-11 01118, 2017

      • CatQuest
        i more need help with people going through various pages of instruments to move them to the right noes than I need help with translations to be honest.
      • 2017-01-11 01137, 2017

      • CatQuest
        iie, nippon ga nai
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      • chirlu
        CatQuest: If there is a need for grouping instrument requests by instrument types, I think components would be a better way.
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      • CatQuest
        chirlu: I was thinking about "components but honestly I don't know how they work exactly and how(or if) I'm allowed to make them
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      • CatQuest
        but yes, by instruemnt types would be very useful because often when i research instruments for ticets, i come across other related instruments and there sometimes are ticets to add them as well 8and sometimes not, but I add them often anyway)
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      • chirlu
        I don’t know whether you can create INST components or not, but if you can’t, Freso (or whoever) will probably give you the required privilege.
      • 2017-01-11 01121, 2017

      • CatQuest
        that would be neat :D
      • 2017-01-11 01136, 2017

      • CatQuest
        I'll try to check it, hang on
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      • chirlu
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      • CatQuest
        yesi found it in thesidebar. i rather grown to like thatn ew sidebar, I can add my own links to it.so I added useful "ad ticets" and "add isntruemnt" links
      • 2017-01-11 01118, 2017

      • CatQuest
        hah, i cna add the component
      • 2017-01-11 01125, 2017

      • CatQuest
        this is usefull.
      • 2017-01-11 01129, 2017

      • CatQuest
        thank you, chirlu
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      • CatQuest
        hmm. what is a good component name that aplies things like aliases, spelling issues?
      • 2017-01-11 01104, 2017

      • CatQuest
        seems i wasn't wrong ot focus on strings first and foremost, many of these are "string" instruments. woo
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      • CatQuest
        chirlu: is there a batch component adder somewhere?
      • 2017-01-11 01100, 2017

      • chirlu
        There is a general batch editor.
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      • CatQuest
        ah, where is it?
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      • chirlu
        Not quite sure in this new JIRA.
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      • CatQuest
        hm
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      • chirlu
        If you can make all issues that you want to change appear in a search result (and only those), then there is “Tools > Bulk change” in the upper right corner.
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      • CatQuest
        right
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      • chirlu
        There used to be an option to select specific tickets for changing, but I don’t see how ATM.
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      • CatQuest
        that.. doesnt help :D hmm maybe i can searh for "contains strings"
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      • chirlu
        Sorry, but I don’t know where this function ended up in the new version.
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      • CatQuest
        thats the thing with updating and upgrading. something is always lost :)
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      • CallerNo6
        dpmittal, okay, I finally looked at your doc. Do you want to try to finish it up before Friday? Or as your last task?
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      • CallerNo6
        (Friday is the deadline for claiming your last task)
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      • dpmittal
        CallerNo6: if I am able to finish it before Fri it will be great but if it takes more time than that I will have no problem as I did summary now cause of that purpose
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      • CatQuest
        CallerNo6: do you have a good suggestion for a component-name aplies things like aliases, spelling issues?
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      • CallerNo6
        dpmittal, okay, sounds good. Let's try to finish by Friday.
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      • CatQuest
        basically a catch-all for everything that isn't "add x instrument"
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      • CallerNo6
        CatQuest, ? What's the context? Oh. Um. <thinks>
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      • dpmittal
        CallerNo6: claimed the task :D
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      • CatQuest
        doesn't have to be superawesum name, just better than "other stuff" which I think is bad :D
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      • CatQuest
        (and would probably make chirlu fall tits down in disbelief.)
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      • CatQuest
        :P
      • 2017-01-11 01128, 2017

      • CallerNo6
        Are you using bug/new-feature/improvement already? It seems like that kind of covers some of it.
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      • CatQuest
        nja. those don't really fit, and i'd ahveto go troug all of them nayway ot set it. and people will just add whatever they mean
      • 2017-01-11 01112, 2017

      • CallerNo6
        That is, if I make an instrument ticket and label it "improvement", does that do what you want?
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      • CatQuest
        I've added "wind/percussion/strings/electronic-instrument" components already, as suggested by chrysn
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      • CatQuest
        honestly. no
      • 2017-01-11 01109, 2017

      • CatQuest
        chirlu not.. anyone else
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      • CatQuest
        sorry random chtab person i pinged
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      • CatQuest
        CallerNo6: also it doesn't solve, beause people will use f.ex bug: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/INST-330
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      • BrainzBot
        INST-330: Rename "guitars" instrument
      • 2017-01-11 01119, 2017

      • CatQuest
        for things lie kthis
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      • CatQuest
        basically I want a component name that means "anything that isn't "add x instrument" but is inst
      • 2017-01-11 01148, 2017

      • CatQuest
        related
      • 2017-01-11 01114, 2017

      • dpmittal
        CallerNo6:Is this writing style which I used in current doc OK? If it is then I'll also add tips for event reviews as well
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      • dpmittal
        *which I am following...
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      • CallerNo6
        dpmittal, yes, I think so. Part of me would like to see a shorter doc, where the bullet points are 'distilled' down to the essentials. But that's a "whole nuther level" of writing difficulty :-)
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      • CallerNo6
        I mean, some tips on what to write about are good, but the goal is to help a new critique writer who feels overwhelmed and doesn't know how to get started. So the doc shouldn't be overwhelming itself.
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      • CatQuest
        you know what, I'm just going with "no component"
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      • CallerNo6
        CatQuest, I'm still looking at a blank ticket tryingto figure out what makes sense.
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      • CallerNo6
        I mean, I don't understand the components right now. Does it help to break them down into instrument families?
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      • CatQuest
        it really, really helps
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      • CatQuest
        https://tickets.metabrainz.org/projects/INST?sele… it means I can sort otut in the larger families and focus on one at a time
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      • CallerNo6
        (obviously, I don't know your workflow)
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      • CatQuest
        I was right to start with string - it's the largest amount
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      • CatQuest
        I'm actually leaning on adding more, subish components, that way I can do "add all these related lute like string instruments
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      • CatQuest
        link them and relate them and have benefit of having read bout how they relate to eachother in warious wiki's etc
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      • CallerNo6
        So you want a component like "modify existing instrument" maybe?
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      • CatQuest
        thank you, thnakyou, YES that. thnak you
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      • CatQuest
        perfect
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      • CallerNo6
        That badly clashes with the way my brain works, but if it helps you, then \ô/
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      • CatQuest
        now if I can only ind out howto make reo "component lead" then I'll be set :D
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      • dpmittal
        CallerNo6: I'll try to be less prescriptive I can and after adding event review tips as well I'll ping you
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      • Leo_Verto
        waiting for the Elbphilharmonie livestream to start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__4EmRRYbO8
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      • CallerNo6
        So, dpmittal, that would be my advice overall. Try to think of your doc as welcoming new writers and helping them get comfortable. I'll be afk for ~3 hrs.
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      • dpmittal
        Ok, thanks CallerNo6
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: remind me again, what is "new instrument" ticket type supposed to be again?
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      • CatQuest
        new feature?
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      • reosarevok
        Probably
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      • CatQuest
        right, because now I can select these by components and therefoe "batch" edit thme :DDDD
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      • CatQuest
        and luckily I can prevent the email going out about them for this (since that's kinda annoying again since I added components to everything9
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      • CatQuest
        what is "Transition Issues Transition issues through workflow"?
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      • CatQuest
        hey CallerNo6 I've written a small bit about adding instrument requests. there's a wiki/doc page about "what do I do if the instrument I need isn't in the list of instruments?" right?
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: I would use task for "new instrument", but you're the INST lead, so it's your call. :)
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      • CatQuest
        task to me is something like "this is a thing you have to invest yourself in" like "research and add the instruments in dulcimer family" whereas "add (this spesific) dulcimer is "a new feature"
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      • CatQuest
        that's what makes sense to me atleast :D
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      • CatQuest
        adding aliases or updating descriptions is "improvement"
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      • CatQuest
        generally I'd be the one adding "tasks" (to myself)
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      • Freso
        Then that's how you should use it.
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      • CatQuest
        I'm so pleased with ohw this looks now: for something badly wrong, Issue type is "Bug" it's SO much clearer ot me
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      • CatQuest
        I'm so pleased with ohw this looks now: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/projects/INST/summ… it's SO much clearer ot me
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      • CatQuest
        stupid copypaste fail
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      • CatQuest
        the only think I wish i could alter is that "project shortcuts" what has the option ot insert links (but I cannot reorder them, and they sort accending, which is so un-intuitive to me)
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      • CatQuest
        ie, the oldest is lowest on the list
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      • CatQuest
        minor gripe, though
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      • Freso
        :)
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      • Freso
        I'm glad you managed to wrangle Jira into being more pleasant for you to work with.
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      • CatQuest
        I had help from chirlu :o
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      • CatQuest
        ...who just just quit so he can't see at jeg skryter av ham ¬_¬
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      • reosarevok
        Would love all sorts of feedback in https://community.metabrainz.org/t/release-group-… :)
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: you can take over (or unassign?) the ones assigned to me right now, since I'm not particularly looking into them at the moment :)
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      • reosarevok
        (didn't even realise I had some!)
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      • CatQuest
        regular instruments, that's ok