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at least the internal search doest seem to find the alias

you can use the edit button besides the artist to enter an alias

this is the alias

aaah

artist as credited

thanks

:-)

yw

!m SothoTalKer

You're doing good work, SothoTalKer!

will this automatically add an alias to the group SothoTalKer?

Rasi: No.

Rasi: But it will make the artist searchable by that name.

ok

so what exactly is the alias stuff good for then

:)

just some kind of mini wiki?

Rasi: https://musicbrainz.org/artist/cabb4fcf-4067-4b...

ah and one adds the same alias twice, if it was used in different periods of time

ok

Yep. Or in different locales.

(There was a lawsuit about another artist in the UK already using the name "Diddy", so he's not allowed to use that name in the UK, thus going back to "P. Diddy" only in that region.)

(All explained in the related edit notes, of course. ;))

https://musicbrainz.org/artist/51823891-6035-4d... is another fun one.

this one was named Bush X in Canada

lawsuit also :)

for some releases the data is no where to be found on the web :<

Yep.

Like https://musicbrainz.org/release/e7c1635b-459c-4...

especially if discogs does not have that release :)

libraries often have info on older releases in their databases

Well, except for MB of course. ❤️

Discogs does not have that one.

ebay also

eBay might though. But I doubt it. :p

when you can't find something on discogs or online stores

;)

Then again… eBay peeps are crazy peeps.

are they?

If they're selling https://musicbrainz.org/release/e7c1635b-459c-4... - yes.

is disambiguation still needed on areas ?

<3

bless em

babies?

wat

crazy stuff on ebay

..I was thinking more like sexy lingerine and silly engrish descriptions

orly

most german sellers do not put good descriptions on their items

they are just like 'oh i sell this album 'name'. good condition. end.

'

yes

i just found someone selling 1500 vinyls for 11700 euros :x

I got the Sir Lord Baltimore vinyl. sold by a guy I don't think knew what it was. but i'm still unsure if it was genuine edition of early or a italian replica thing. its odd

awsum

100 vinyls for 60 euro. sounds fair :)

CallerNo6: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/how-to-name-...

CallerNo6: In case you have any additional definitions up your sleeve. :D

CallerNo6 or reosarevok (or someone else), what's the (style?) doc about specificity? E.g., that it's better to list a lyricist+composer rather than writer, or that it's better to use "soprano saxophone" than "saxophone".

Doesn't seem to be on any of the other "overview" pages either.

Oh. That's a good general principle. There might be specific cases mentioned in the docs, but I don't remember it ever being expressed generally.

can i have the musicbrainz searchbox default to something other than 'artist'?

Freso, it's actually (a little bit) contradicted by http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Artist#Main_area

SothoTalKer: Not via MB settings, no. But you could set it via a userscript. I at one point had a userscript that defaulted the search to use the advanced search... it might be easy to adapt that, but I've completely forgotten who made that one.

i should look for it

CallerNo6: Well, it does say «If an artist is most commonly associated with an area smaller than a country», so…

Freso, oh. I'm wrong. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Relationships...

CallerNo6: 🙌

For area, it's the one place (that I can think of) where the docs say "prefer the less specific relationship unless <foo>"

At least, that's how I read it.

Well, it is for "the area the artist is associated with", which is more commonly a country than a specific city.

I think I've already ranted about that, but t depends who you ask.

Yep. Which is why it makes sense to go for the broader of the options. ;)

grumble grumble

E.g., some people may be die-hard about The Beatles being a Liverpool band, but no one will flinch an eye if you say they're from the UK.

Flinch an eye? Ehm...

Nobody will poke out your eye if you say that. I hope.

Probably "bat an eye"?

Or "blink".

(whenever I say something dumb, nikki replies "nikki blinks")

Probably "bat an eye" or just "flinch" on its own maybe.

I think "flinch" connotes pain or fear or pain. Could be wrong.

"pain or fear or pain". I like the way you think.

argh.

the vestigial remnants of a bad joke that I thought I'd backspaced over.

hm, about barcodes. we use the format like it id displayed on the backcover, right?

*is

i mean, any UPC can be converted to a valid EAN by adding a leading 0

UPC-A, 12 digits

when the barcode on a release is missing the last digit, I complete it to make it machine readable

it should never miss the check digit :x

I agree but some covers (older ones) do not show it

ah, the number itself is not printed, but the bars are there?

would make sense ^^

SothoTalKer: The consensus, IIRC, is to write it as written on the cover.

Even if that makes it machine-non-readable. :/

Lotheric, CSG expert now :)

haha

better at it certainly, but no expert :)

Freso: i could just use a barcode-scanner app to get the correct barcode from the release :D

MajorLurker: I added another one: https://musicbrainz.org/release/ca26e26c-57c1-4...

If the digits aren't listed, then yes.

Lotheric, I have been doing it for a few years and I am STILL practicing ;)

you listen to a lot of classical music ?

I listen to music of all sorts, but I like editing classical stuff.

a bit

Your new entry looks good, will look better when you add the relationships and the works :)

I'm still working on it

I have 10000 CD´s in my collection but I doubt I have any Canadian hip-hop

^^ thought you might be ...

rip em all apart and scan the covers, backcovers, media and booklets <3

^^ canadian hip hop with australian hip hop

might have some Australian hip-hop ..... would not be much of it though..... more a seventies man myself

10k CDs, you are a brute :)

My wife has other words for me, brute would be tame ;)

Keeps me out of the pub

"collector"

A little bit ¨mad¨, perhaps.

MadLurker

:)

there are worse things to collect :-)

at least you can listen to music

people who collect useless stuff are madder

I mainly buy from 2nd hand shops these days.... cannot remember the last time I bought a new release