#musicbrainz

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      • SothoTalker_
        how do i find out which release is the older entry in musicbrainz? :))
      • 2017-02-04 03523, 2017

      • CallerNo6
        editing history (link in right sidebar)
      • 2017-02-04 03500, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        meh, i just installed "merge helpor 2" usercript. :p
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      • SothoTalker_
        love it <3
      • 2017-02-04 03507, 2017

      • reosarevok
        It really doesn't matter though :D
      • 2017-02-04 03507, 2017

      • reosarevok
        Like, ok, if both are exactly the same quality otherwise...
      • 2017-02-04 03535, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        both had exact the same data
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      • SothoTalker_
        for vinyls, MB does not say which side has which tracks?
      • 2017-02-04 03529, 2017

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Might not matter to you, but some of the slightly OCD ones of us have an unreasoned desire to make the older MBIDs stay around.
      • 2017-02-04 03545, 2017

      • Freso
        SothoTalker_: A1 is on the A side, B5 is on the B side.
      • 2017-02-04 03530, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        Freso: was curious because https://musicbrainz.org/release/2dadf852-3aee-4d8… is listed as vinyl but does not use A and B track info
      • 2017-02-04 03504, 2017

      • Freso
        SothoTalker_: It could be a pre-NGS release that hasn't been cleaned up. Or it could be that the tracklisting is known, but the per-side listing.
      • 2017-02-04 03530, 2017

      • Freso
        Or, heck, I think maybe "vinyl numbering" actually came after NGS?
      • 2017-02-04 03511, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        oh well, i saw many releases that are "vinyl"-format without A and B side info :x
      • 2017-02-04 03537, 2017

      • Freso
        Keep in mind that MB is 16 years old.
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      • Freso
        And a lot of the "modern" things came with or after NGS.
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      • Freso
        So there is a lot of "legacy data" in the system that was 100% correct and with the best imaginable metadata at the time of entry.
      • 2017-02-04 03542, 2017

      • Freso
        But as MB evolves, that also means that these entries start looking aged.
      • 2017-02-04 03548, 2017

      • SothoTalker_
        and today it's kind of useless data :D
      • 2017-02-04 03507, 2017

      • crism
        SothoTalker_: Data is never useless.
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      • Freso
        Which is one of the reasons CAA and annotation are invaluable.
      • 2017-02-04 03500, 2017

      • Freso
        SothoTalker_: How is it useless? It still says that the release exists. It still says the format and number of mediums. It still gives the tracklisting and links the Tracks with Recordings. It still says what Artist the release is credited to.
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      • Freso
        As long as the data isn't *wrong*, some data is better than no data.
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      • SothoTalker_
        i said 'kind of' :p
      • 2017-02-04 03538, 2017

      • Freso
        More like "far from".
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      • Rotab
        i'm looking at merging https://musicbrainz.org/artist/cbbdde47-f3b0-4456… and https://musicbrainz.org/artist/08a8fb02-065d-4545… but im not sure to which. "MC Whizzkid" is older. on facebook and soundcloud he is "MC Whizzkid", on twitter he is "Whizzkid".. on his album he is only credited as "Whizzkid" https://musicmondays.databeats.com/cd/mmcd010
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      • Freso
        Rotab: This is one of those cases where I would just merge into the oldest of the two.
      • 2017-02-04 03533, 2017

      • Freso
        If anybody really cares specifically about the artist's listed name, they can change it.
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      • Freso
        Rotab: Actually, the two shouldn't be merged.
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
        Michal Marshall vs. Gordon May.
      • 2017-02-04 03557, 2017

      • Freso
        If anything, maybe they should get cleaned up so they don't contain each other's stuff. :)
      • 2017-02-04 03528, 2017

      • Rotab
        Freso: ah, youre right
      • 2017-02-04 03510, 2017

      • Rotab
        Freso: i only saw the releases, didnt look at recordings..
      • 2017-02-04 03546, 2017

      • Freso
        What's the non-IA archive project again?
      • 2017-02-04 03501, 2017

      • Freso can never remember, but knows someone in here is active there
      • 2017-02-04 03508, 2017

      • Freso
        pinnerup: ^ måske?
      • 2017-02-04 03551, 2017

      • Freso
        Rotab: You're not the first to mix them up: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/17873997 :)
      • 2017-02-04 03557, 2017

      • Freso
        (2012...)
      • 2017-02-04 03507, 2017

      • Rotab
        oopsiedo
      • 2017-02-04 03521, 2017

      • Rotab
        perhaps a better annotation is in place
      • 2017-02-04 03523, 2017

      • Rotab
        eh
      • 2017-02-04 03526, 2017

      • Rotab
        not annotation
      • 2017-02-04 03535, 2017

      • Rotab
        disambiguation
      • 2017-02-04 03519, 2017

      • Freso
        Rotab: I just improved the Mike Marshall one.
      • 2017-02-04 03542, 2017

      • Freso
        Rotab: And I'm going to add a few of the singles from Discogs to him.
      • 2017-02-04 03550, 2017

      • Freso
        Go ahead and improve on the other one. :)
      • 2017-02-04 03558, 2017

      • Rotab
        yeah, i'm gonna move all the wrong stuff :P
      • 2017-02-04 03551, 2017

      • Freso
        anshuman73: You're marked as /away btw.
      • 2017-02-04 03515, 2017

      • Freso
        anshuman73: I don't know whether MsB can be used like Geordi was supposed to.
      • 2017-02-04 03543, 2017

      • anshuman73
        Freso: I can see myself not away in a /whois
      • 2017-02-04 03543, 2017

      • Freso
        It's certainly an interesting prospect/idea and means that it might be possible to start ingesting e.g., Discogs data again.
      • 2017-02-04 03531, 2017

      • Freso
        anshuman73: Curious. Whenever I tab complete your name, IRCCloud insists that you're away.
      • 2017-02-04 03537, 2017

      • anshuman73
        Freso: could be a server issue, I have a ZNC running on a free shell, which I have to manually login every once in a while to prove I'm alive / not just squatting server space
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      • anshuman73 would love IRCCloud anyday, but it put off by their cost
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      • Freso
        Still. IRCCloud should(!) not be able to see that.
      • 2017-02-04 03542, 2017

      • Freso
        And your idle time is "less than a minute" and your /away flag isn't set.
      • 2017-02-04 03500, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        Freso, just stop using IRCCloud :P
      • 2017-02-04 03504, 2017

      • Rotab
        anshuman73 doesnt look away to me either
      • 2017-02-04 03507, 2017

      • anshuman73
        I have hexchat and it shows colours for active people and grey for inactive, and I'm coloured :)
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        anshuman73 doesnt look away to me either
      • 2017-02-04 03519, 2017

      • anshuman73
        Freso: Then it look more like an IRCCloud issue to me
      • 2017-02-04 03528, 2017

      • Freso
        Yep.
      • 2017-02-04 03537, 2017

      • Freso
        Leo_Verto: I will! Soon™!
      • 2017-02-04 03544, 2017

      • Leo_Verto
        :O
      • 2017-02-04 03531, 2017

      • Freso
        I'm not a huge fan of IRCCloud. I prefer my weechat setup. But my SD card failed me and I haven't gotten the RPi2 set up again yet.
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      • Freso
        Or gotten around to looking into ZNC like stuff.
      • 2017-02-04 03510, 2017

      • anshuman73
        The only thing I like about IRCCloud is multi device support
      • 2017-02-04 03540, 2017

      • Freso
        That is nice, yes.
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      • reosarevok loves that
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      • reosarevok
        Being pinged on the phone means I don't need to look at my computer at all times to know when I'm needed
      • 2017-02-04 03512, 2017

      • anshuman73
        I believe ZNC has something similar, but then it's a whole lot of extra 3rd party scripts and everything :p
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      • anshuman73
        reosarevok: +1
      • 2017-02-04 03548, 2017

      • anshuman73
        and well, I guess the emoji support is another thing that gives IRC a plus point
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      • anshuman73
        s/IRCCloud/
      • 2017-02-04 03517, 2017

      • Freso
        I didn't have problems with emojis in my weechat setup.
      • 2017-02-04 03533, 2017

      • Freso ❤️ compose key and noto fonts ;)
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      • anshuman73 looks into weechat
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      • Freso
        Rotab: Oh god. And they're both electronic/dance people.
      • 2017-02-04 03554, 2017

      • Freso is betting that a number of the Discogs entries for MC Whizzkid might actually be for the other Whizzkid
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        probably
      • 2017-02-04 03551, 2017

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox is now known as CatQuest
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      • anshuman73
        oooooh, well weechat seems good, it's got nice dark themes and is being actively developed \0/
      • 2017-02-04 03543, 2017

      • Freso
        anshuman73: :) I used weechat+tmux+mosh
      • 2017-02-04 03527, 2017

      • Freso
        (And added tor in front of weechat not long before the SD card failed.)
      • 2017-02-04 03552, 2017

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      • Freso
        In "I Control the Party (The remix radio edit)", "(The" or "(the"?
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      • Rotab
        Freso: yup..
      • 2017-02-04 03529, 2017

      • Freso
        *UK electronic/dance people
      • 2017-02-04 03548, 2017

      • Rotab
        looking at MC Whizzkid's discogs releases everything looks fine
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      • Freso
        I think the main distinguisher may be the perioud.
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      • Rotab
        yes
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      • Rotab
        Whizzkid is some 90s hard trance guy
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      • Freso
        Whizzkid's "I Control the Party" is from 1996, most of MC Whizzkid's stuff seem to be 2010+.
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      • Freso
        Oh, no. 2004 is the earliest?
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      • CatQuest
        they are both uk?
      • 2017-02-04 03537, 2017

      • Rotab
        and MC Whizzkid is 2000+ UK Hardcore
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Yes.
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      • CatQuest
        ಠ_ಠ
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      • anshuman73
        Freso: That's a highly customizable setup.
      • 2017-02-04 03556, 2017

      • Freso
        The middle picture of https://www.discogs.com/release/195887-I-Control-… .. what would you CAA classify that is?
      • 2017-02-04 03558, 2017

      • Freso
        *as
      • 2017-02-04 03500, 2017

      • Freso
        anshuman73: Yep.
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      • anshuman73
        s/customized/
      • 2017-02-04 03547, 2017

      • Freso
        anshuman73: Yep.
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      • CatQuest
        that's a slim cd liner/booklet/front thinger isn't it?
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      • CatQuest
        do't we use front/tray for that?
      • 2017-02-04 03514, 2017

      • anshuman73
        and mosh gives a great advantage, something I'm not getting in the stormy night cutting my power again and again and making me lose messages
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: It'd definitely not front. It might be tray.
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      • Freso
        anshuman73: :p
      • 2017-02-04 03536, 2017

      • Freso
        mosh is amazing.
      • 2017-02-04 03539, 2017

      • CatQuest
        oh yea oh well the other side of the bit of paper is front, i mena :)
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      • Freso
        I wish everywhere that I ssh to had/supported it.
      • 2017-02-04 03503, 2017

      • Freso
        Anyway.
      • 2017-02-04 03503, 2017

      • anshuman73
        yep ssh needs something like it
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      • Freso
        "If in doubt, leave it out."
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      • Freso leaves out the type
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      • anshuman73 goes zz
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      • Freso
        Natta!
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      • CatQuest
        :o
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      • CatQuest
        natta
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      • anshuman73
        Natta !
      • 2017-02-04 03512, 2017

      • Freso
        (What is the timezone there again? +0430?)
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      • Freso
        Or 5?
      • 2017-02-04 03527, 2017

      • Freso
        Or more‽‽
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      • Rotab
        😯
      • 2017-02-04 03538, 2017

      • anshuman73
        + 5:30
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      • anshuman73
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      • Freso
        All of India is one timezone?
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      • Rotab
        yeah
      • 2017-02-04 03530, 2017

      • Rotab
        hence the half-hour
      • 2017-02-04 03542, 2017

      • Freso
        Ah.
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