#musicbrainz

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      • CatQuest
        hmm is there a way to make an userscript look on my computer for a @require file?
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      • Leftmost
        Probably not, as that would have significant security implications.
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      • CatQuest
        spesifically in the same folder as where it is sored on said computer
      • 2017-04-05 09506, 2017

      • CatQuest
        hmm
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      • CatQuest
        I keep updating this https://bitbucket.org/CatCat/musicbrainz-scripts/… to have more locales but it's a pita to get the scipt (the alias script) to look for it
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      • CatQuest
        it doesnt like if i modify...
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      • CatQuest
        I mean I made my local script look for it in my own branch thing. and it worked! more locales!
      • 2017-04-05 09502, 2017

      • CatQuest
        but now whne i try updating it.. it's like "no.. no longer even fucking work" and it doenst show up and i jsut.. don't know why not
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      • Leo_Verto
        are you saying you broke it? :P
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      • Leo_Verto
        line 171, misplaced comma
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      • Leo_Verto
        CatQuest, ^
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      • CatQuest
        no.stilldoesnt work
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      • Leo_Verto
        well, did the previous version work?
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      • CatQuest
        yes
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      • CatQuest
        and then i edited that an it didn't work, i downgraded ant it didn't wokr and thne i eidted and moved aobut and i made it work
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      • CatQuest
        i tohut i figured out how it was supposed to be (edit the file on my computer ot point to the @require I made the fixes on, *then* download that spesific raw and have in the some folder as the script is stored by ff)
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      • CatQuest
        hmm now I did the exact same thing again (update my local script file, download the edited commons file) and presto! it works :/
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      • CatQuest
        rarg
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      • CatQuest
        anyway, my local batch-alias has now many more locales :D
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      • CatQuest
        what language is this https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flajoleto io+ ido? what is it?
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      • Leftmost
        It's a constructed language.
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      • CatQuest
        grnt
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      • Leftmost
        I think it's partly based on Esperanto, but don't quote me.
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      • CatQuest
        google translate thought it was, so you're probably not wrong
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      • CatQuest
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      • loujine
        CatQuest: I'm back from my business/tapas trip so I'll probably start working on scripts again in the next few days
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      • CatQuest
        \o/
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      • CatQuest
        your script is still very useful to me, :D
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      • CatQuest
        but i'm sure I made a mess about pull requests.. I think I have for your thing every time i make a change? :(
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      • CatQuest
        "I have to fork your thing*
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Look into how to use branches in git, then make a new branch based on "master" for each change/PR you want to make.
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      • CatQuest
        ... i thoguht that's what i was doing :/
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      • CatQuest
        Freso: als othis is bitbucket :/
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: bitbucket is still git.
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      • CatQuest
        right
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      • CallerNo6
        ^ except when it's mercurial
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      • Freso
        Also, it might be what you've been doing. :)
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      • CatQuest
        great
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      • CatQuest
        oh
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      • CatQuest
        :s
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      • Freso
        CallerNo6: Last I checked, loujine's userscript repos wasn't though. :)
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      • CatQuest
        well if it's not, i apologise for any mess ,but it isn't.. uh clear :/
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Once you've made and commit changes to a branch, you can check out "master" again to get back to a "clean slate" and then make a new branch and make new changes.
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      • CatQuest
        if you try edit some persons.. thing and yo udo not have permission. it states "we made a fork for this" and that's my form thing
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      • CatQuest
        fork* thing
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      • Freso
        CatQuest: Oh, you're doing it only on the site?
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      • Freso
        I don't know much about how the WUIs work.
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      • Freso
        But yes, forking is not a bad thing on Bitbucket/GH/etc.
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      • Freso
        (Au contraire.)
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      • CatQuest
        so I edited my fork thing, and the first time it worked, I could "commit branch" or what.. so he made changes ot his original ,and I pulled those into my fork thing to make it up t odate. but I don't know how to push edits I make to this fork of mien onto his original anymore, it doesn't put up such questions
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      • CatQuest
        uhm.. do i have to make a branch on my own fork of his thing? and.. why?
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      • CatQuest
        I'm literally editing one file
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      • CatQuest
        and I chose "create push request" or something. and I have to merge that back into my fork again, so ok. but how do i push my chnages t othe fork i have back to his original fork?
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      • CatQuest is so noob :(
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      • Freso
        Yes. Make a branch on your own fork.
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      • CatQuest
        i does that automatically, i think, when i edit a file
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      • CatQuest
        right so I have.. 2 brances on my fork, one "default" and one "catcatloujinembzblahblah"
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      • CatQuest
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      • soundproz
        Hello
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      • soundproz
        I am new to MusicBrainz and I was wondering, how I can get the list of instruments used in a track?
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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        i cna "merge" this int omy defualt? yes? that will work
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      • CatQuest
        dgw: This merge has conflicts that must be resolved before it can be committed.
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      • CatQuest
        To manually merge these changes into default run the following commands:
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      • CatQuest
        hg update default
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      • CatQuest
        hg merge 4174abfabb56
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      • CatQuest
        how do :(
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      • soundproz
        Welp, guys, is it possible to get the instruments?
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      • dgw
        CatQuest: who, me? o.o
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      • Leftmost
        soundproz, some recordings will have relationships that specify who played what on a track, but it's not a comprehensive list in many cases, and not even present in many more.
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      • CatQuest
        dgw: nope not you, it happens when I write :D first in a sentence, the stupid irc client somehow thinks I mean "d tab" whickh isapparently you :/
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      • dgw
        lol
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      • CatQuest
        sorry for pinging you
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      • CatQuest
        :)
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      • dgw
        was gonna say, I don't even use hg
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      • dgw
        or I'd help
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      • dgw
        anyway
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      • dgw
        now if you were asking about git, I could help :)
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      • CatQuest
        they say it *is* git :P
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      • dgw
        not if it has commands like "hg update default"
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      • CallerNo6
        soundproz, do you mean programmatically? are you using the web service?
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      • dgw
        $ git update
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      • dgw
        git: 'update' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
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      • soundproz
        Leftmost Thanks a lot! Are gender (e.g. rock, pop) information available for all songs?
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      • CatQuest
        did yo ujust assume that songs gender?!
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      • soundproz
        Yes, programmatically
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      • CatQuest
        :P
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      • Leftmost
        No, and there's (currently) no formal concept of genre (we wouldn't call it gender in English) in MusicBrainz. Only tags, and those aren't always genre-based.
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      • CatQuest
        buuut
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      • Leftmost
        Genre is in the works, as I understand it, but not complete.
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      • CatQuest
        it maybe be that reosarevok is goingto do it this sumer.. maaybe
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      • soundproz
        "not complete" what percenatge of songs for example will have gender info?
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      • CatQuest
        generally none
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      • CatQuest
        some will have genre
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      • soundproz
        Okay, thanks!
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      • CatQuest
        but thoe are stored as tags
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      • Leftmost
        Once genre is implemented, it will be up to users to set it, so at the start, nothing will be marked with genre.
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      • CatQuest
        actual genre stuff is in theworks (but has for 10 years) however, see above about reosarevok
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      • soundproz
        Regarding lyrics, is there any way to get them *for all* songs aside from musixmatch?
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      • CatQuest
        once upone a ime we didn't have works.. now.. hahah so much :D
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      • soundproz
        Okay, seems like it will take some time for genders...
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      • CatQuest
        dude: GENRE
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      • CatQuest
        not GENDER
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      • soundproz
        sorry... I apologize xD
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      • reosarevok
        I don't think there's any great way to get lyrics programmatically. Partially because lyric sites of course don't have anywhere near everything, partially because we don't have the links
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      • CatQuest
        enough inanimate things and abstract concepts have genders stacked onto them for no good reason -_- no need t odo it for music :/
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      • reosarevok
        Musixmatch is probably the only one that accepts MBIDs in their API, but not sure
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      • CatQuest
        hmm ok, if I merge this https://bitbucket.org/CatCat/musicbrainz-scripts/… will everything go to hell?
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      • soundproz
        Can I find out the gender (male/female) of the vocalist?
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      • reosarevok
        Given the fact licenses for lyrics are veeery expensive, I expect any decent option will be pricey
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      • CatQuest
        soundproz: yea
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      • soundproz
        For every song?
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      • reosarevok
        With the database, yes, with the API, yes but it might take extra calls
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      • reosarevok
        For every song where the data is there
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      • soundproz
        Great! Thanks!
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      • CallerNo6
        soundproz, so e.g. to get instruments used in a recording, you'd look at the recording's artist-rels and filter them on your end. http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/recording/6179b029-4e…
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      • reosarevok
        It is possible, but it requires someone having added the vocalist links :)
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      • CatQuest
        an artist could be person: gender: male, female, other unset
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      • CatQuest
        or group: no gender
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      • soundproz
        Hm...
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      • soundproz
        "but it requires someone having added the vocalist links" -> So the gender of the vocalist are not available for every song?
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      • reosarevok
        No, nothing like that is available for every song
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      • reosarevok
        In general, we don't have anyone who's paid to enter data, so we only have as much info as users have entered
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      • CatQuest finds gender to be less interesting than say, where they are from or when they were born/or died. and maybe like 300 years ol or 50 :O
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      • soundproz
        So, what kind of info exists for all songs?
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: a lot of people specifically like music with female vocals for some reason
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      • CallerNo6
        (oh, I see you already got a ws example in #metabrainz... oops)
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: well actually I do like female vocalists more hn male sometimes.. heh
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      • CatQuest
        but yea ok
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      • CatQuest
        hmm but I nthat case the acousticbrainz thing with the learning achine if it's vocalist male/fmeale mightbe a better solution?
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      • reosarevok
        If that's good enough, it might - I have no idea what level that is at right now
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      • CatQuest
        that's machine learned and not human culled, but still
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: not horrible :D
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      • Leo_Verto
        soundproz, name and artist, I suppose
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      • Leo_Verto
        but what use case are you working on, where not having data for an item is not an option at all?
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      • CatQuest
        some are [unknown] and some are [untitled] tho :P
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      • soundproz
        Leo_Verto I am doing research on music recommendation
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      • CatQuest
        yea. what to be using it for?
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      • Leo_Verto
        ah
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      • soundproz
        and I was trying to understand more or less what I can find here
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      • Leo_Verto
        have you taken a look at AcousticBrainz then?
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      • CatQuest dances