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      • reosarevok
        I mean, I dunno how well beets' search works compared to just the MB SOLR search
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        (even through a beets plugin if you want, I assume :) )
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      • Lotheric
        reosarevok: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9576 bitmap says it's a style issue...
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9576: non breaking space U+00A0 gets changed to a regular space U+0020 once saved
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      • Lotheric
        What's your take on it ?
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      • Lotheric
        Do I need to make another ticket or can this one be converted to a style ticket?
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      • culinko
        hey guys, i found 2 strange issues today and i'd like to know what is going on. the first thing is the following:
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      • culinko
        is it intended that if you merge two artists with the same name, the relationship credits will be: "artist (creditd as artist)" instead of just artist?
      • 2019-04-06 09648, 2019

      • culinko
        assuming none of the relationships before were credited with an artist credit before
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      • culinko
        it would make sense to keep the relationships ACs if they was present before the merge or if the first artist was a different name, but they were identical
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      • culinko
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      • culinko
        you can see 4 link relationships and 1 recording relationship have credit "as slippy" even though slippy is the artist name
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      • culinko
        at the time of the merge, i was merging "slippy" into "slippy"
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      • rdswift
        Sounds like a bug to me. Likely worth creating a ticket.
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      • culinko
        i have found https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-10056 but there is no merge in the edit history
      • 2019-04-06 09646, 2019

      • BrainzBot
        MBS-10056: Automatically remove relationship artist credits when they are same as artist name
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      • rdswift
        That sounds like the same thing alright.
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      • culinko
        yeah
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      • rdswift
        Not sure I understand your comment about "no merge in the edit history".
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      • culinko
        the same thing happened in the ticket but there was no merge for the artist mentioned in the ticket
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      • culinko
        so there are multiple ways to trigger this issue
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      • culinko
        the issue is the same however
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      • rdswift
        Oh, that is odd. Does sound like the same issue though.
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      • culinko
        and about my second issue:
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      • culinko
        is it correct that if you are changing a recording AC and you are also merging the artist in the initial AC, that the edit will fail? or was that just a fluke?
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      • culinko
        cause this edit of mine failed today because of the merge: https://musicbrainz.org/edit/60381374
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      • rdswift
        No idea on that one. Sorry.
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      • culinko
        i thought that the first artist would immediately become the artist it is being merged into in https://musicbrainz.org/edit/60371898
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      • culinko
        i can re-do the edits i'm just wondering if i should be careful about edits like this in the future and not change AC with entity that has a merge open
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      • rdswift
        I hope that isn't the case, because it sounds like a PITA to keep a future To-Do list.
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      • culinko
        cause at first i was confused and thought that maybe i submitted the merge in https://musicbrainz.org/edit/60371898 before the name change in https://musicbrainz.org/edit/60371874 and therefore the artist names were still different at the time of the merge but looking at https://musicbrainz.org/artist/0866b8d4-26cd-4c75… confirms that they have been identical
      • 2019-04-06 09619, 2019

      • culinko
        at the time of the merge
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      • culinko
        (i'm talking about the first relationship issue and not the failed edits one in the above reply)
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      • rdswift
        I wonder if the failed edit was because it referred to the id number of the artist that was merged into a different id number?
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      • rdswift
        I don't know if it did or did not refer to the merge target. Just grasping at straws.
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      • reosarevok
        Lotheric: I think it's more in the sense that it is "a stylistical issue". yvanzo seems to think it should be changed and he's French so he knows what he's talking about
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      • reosarevok
        If he thinks it should be allowed then we should allow it
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      • reosarevok
        Also deux-points, that sounds like our results in Eurovision
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      • culinko
        reosarevok: idk if this can be changed in this specific case but i found that after you change the relationship AC, the artist name will receive the orange border (indicating that the entity has open edits) however that is misleading because the relationship AC change is an auto-edit :)
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      • Freso
        culinko: Can you link such a case?
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      • culinko
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      • Freso
        https://musicbrainz.org/artist/0832bc5d-eebb-4e04… doesn’t have an orange name though?
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      • Freso
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      • culinko
        i mean during the edit, e.g. https://i.imgur.com/gRe5lHz.png
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      • Freso
        That’s intentional. Imagine there are 10 relationships for that URL, the orange is used to show which ones have been changed.
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      • culinko
        ah, it makes sense then
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      • culinko
        wait i just realized the same happens when you are adding relationships which are also autoedits
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      • Freso
        IIRC it’s also colour coded so that brand new relationships will be green, altered ones will be yellow(/orange), and removed ones will be red.
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      • culinko
        you are correct
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      • culinko
        i guess i just didn't expect the AC change on relationships to be auto-edits, cause AC changes on entities aren't
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      • Freso
        Entity AC changes are potentially destructive (e.g., if an artist is completely removed from a credit and it’s the only credit that artist is on/in, the artist risks getting removed from MB by ModBot), but relationship ACs are never destructive (since they will only ever point to a single entity).
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