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      • reosarevok
        Opinions on whether this belongs in MB? https://musicbrainz.org/edit/61859393
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      • reosarevok
        Not sure where to set the line (if it's available in many sites etc)
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      • BCMM
        what actually is it? a bunch of classical music recordings from different sources put together by some pirate group?
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      • reosarevok
        I think so?
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      • yvanzo
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      • yvanzo
        There is no relationship URL to download it https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Relationships/U…
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      • yvanzo
        I didn’t find any rule or guideline against adding it to MB.
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      • CatQuest
        hello, people and Freso, do we merge bootleg releasegroups with official release group of the (arguably) same thing?
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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        I practically never edit bootlegs os this is out of my knowledge
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      • CatQuest
        also not an arist i'm familiar with
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      • CatQuest
        (but should be popular to many :D)
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      • CatQuest only added this release as it was linkend on bandcamp after a tweet posted in #metabrainz
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      • reosarevok isn't sure, but commented anyway
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      • CatQuest
        thanks!
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      • reosarevok
        Commenting on stuff I don't know is what the internet taught me to do!
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      • CatQuest
        :P
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      • zarcade_droid
        Hmm
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      • zarcade_droid
        If an Audio drama has someone credited as "Music"
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      • zarcade_droid
        What type of relationship is it?
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      • zarcade_droid
        "composer", "performer" or "arranger" don't fit it well
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      • zarcade_droid
        Would "compiler" be okay?
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      • yvanzo
        If unclear which type of relationship should fit, I would just put it in annotations.
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      • zarcade_droid
        So you think the relationship I'm looking for doesn't exist?
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      • yvanzo
        It doesn’t seem to have anything to do with “compiler”.
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      • yvanzo
        No, I think the credit is unclear.
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      • zarcade_droid
        "This indicates the person who selected the tracks and the sequence for a compilation."
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      • zarcade_droid
        Well, the soundtrack kind-of is an compilation of tracks .-.
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      • yvanzo
        If the credited artist was Bach, I would add “composer” relationship without doubt.
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      • yvanzo
        If the credited artist was Some Orchestra, I would add “performer” relationship without doubt.
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      • zarcade_droid
        "Nicholas Briggs" :P
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      • yvanzo
        And so on, but here info seems to be missing.
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      • yvanzo
        This is not a compilation, right?
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      • zarcade_droid
        No
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      • zarcade_droid
        An audio drama
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      • yvanzo
        So it doesn’t fit the “compiler” description.
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      • zarcade_droid
        Wikipedia says the guy is a composer, sound designer etc.
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      • zarcade_droid
        so, would "composer" be okay?
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      • Freso
        "18:43:16 <yvanzo> If unclear which type of relationship should fit, I would just put it in annotations." +1
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      • zarcade_droid
        Maybe it's just me who doesn't know the right one and there's a clear relationship :P
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      • Freso
        It’s better to leave something out, than it is to add something that turns out to later be 100% wrong.
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      • yvanzo
        It might be its own compositions though, +1 for annotation (until clarification).
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      • zarcade_droid
        It most certainly isn't 100% wrong to call him a composer
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      • yvanzo
        Sorry, “It might NOT be”.
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      • Freso
        Sometimes it might be nice to just have a "Thing is related to Thing" without clarifying how in more detail. :p
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      • Freso
        zarcade_droid: But it might be 100% wrong to call him a composer for anything on that audio drama.
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      • zarcade_droid
        If he has done actual voices then that's a different credit
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      • zarcade_droid
        so he has 100% done something with the music :D
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      • yvanzo
        If you get more info from him or any other source later on, sure replace annotation with appropriate relationship then. :)
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      • Freso
        "done something with the music" isn’t really something that can be mapped to relationships on its own.
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      • zarcade_droid
        I doubt I want to e-mail him about thousands of releases, asking "what the did you do here exactly?"
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      • Freso
        I had an e‐mail conversation with David Rovics at one point where I was basically just asking a bunch of inane questions. 🙈
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      • Freso
        "Oh, also, on this album, how …"
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      • zarcade_droid
        I'd understand if it were just one release :/
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      • Freso
        I mean, if you see that they have this credit used for thousands of releases, maybe it means the same thing across them all, and one question can clarify this data for said thousands of releases.
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      • zarcade_droid
        It most likely does mean the same thing, that's why I'm trying to find the correct one right now :D
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      • Freso
        And it doesn’t sound like you can find it without going to the source…
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      • Freso
        But hey, maybe you can. :) Good luck either way!
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      • zarcade_droid
        I'll leave it out of the annotations for now because I don't like permanent annotations :P
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      • zarcade_droid
        I'll ask him and then discuss it again
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      • zarcade_droid
        and then it can be added as an annotation if that's the consensus
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      • zarcade_droid
        Anyone can give any pointers how to auto-upload cover art?
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      • zarcade_droid
        It's tedious even script assisted because it takes so long but I know for sure which release should get which front cover
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      • sappheiros
        I wish to create an entry for Daniel Gerrard's _The Streets of Bath_ (guitarist), and there is one Daniel Gerrard already in the system, but how can I verify whether it is a different person coincidentally sharing the name?
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      • SothoTalKer
        sappheiros: what does the edit history say? does the entry have any releases/recordings/links associated with it?
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      • sappheiros
        it had another release or two, but i don't know the albums and it basically just saidh 'various artists'
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      • SothoTalKer
        if you are unsure, just create a new artist :)
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      • sappheiros
        i figured someone could change the artist somehow if there was a problem later on, right? so i went with the pre-existing Daniel Gerrard
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      • SothoTalKer
        changes are always possible
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      • sappheiros
        great. that's actually another question i had: i didn't make the votes editable: does that mean the only choice is to erase the entire thing? i.e. must changes be votable to enable others to change them later on?
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      • sappheiros
        *i didn't make the submission (edits?) votable, i mean to say
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      • SothoTalKer
        that is not the case, votable just means, those edits are not considered "auto-edits", which are applied automatically, but users can vote for/against them.
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      • sappheiros
        so when would i want to make edits votable?
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      • sappheiros
        when i'm unsure?
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      • sappheiros
        i mean: i should use that option only when i'm unsure of the edit?
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      • SothoTalKer
        you should not make any edits you are unsure about at all ;-)
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      • SothoTalKer
        you should make edits votable, when you do not want them to be applied automatically, in case the edit type is an "auto-edit"
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      • SothoTalKer
        from the edit history for the artist, it seems as it is a different person: https://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/055ecb72-c568…
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      • sappheiros
        argh, that wants me to log in to view the content you linked to
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      • SothoTalKer
        because i use the beta site :)
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      • sappheiros
        but that's my point: when would someone _not_ want an edit to be applied automatically?
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      • SothoTalKer
        i personally can't think of a reason :-)
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      • sappheiros
        D: ;_; i don't want to think such a good service would have a 'useless feature' ...
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      • SothoTalKer
        it does not mean others know no reasons also :)
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      • rdswift
        An example would be if an edit were controversial and the editor wanted some feedback and discussion before the edit was applied.
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      • SothoTalKer
        like changing punctuation ;-)
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      • rdswift
        Yeah, that's a common one (especially lately) ;-)