nattie waves at reosarevok - sorry for my assortment of rookie mistakes!
reosarevok
Hi!
And no worries, people make classical mistakes way after hey're rookies
*they're
nattie
phew!
nattie is mostly adding all the random obscure CDs she has accumulated, which probably in practice nobody actually has
but the principle, right? :)
reosarevok
So, good news, you don't need to feel too bad about your mistakes, but bad news, if you're a perfectionist you'll struggle for a while :p
I mean, I spend a couple hours a day fixing albums I don't have, so
Of course, Spotify means I can sometimes check some that look interesting now, but :)
nattie
:)
i'm sure there'll still be plenty of times when i have questions
nattie mutters about vague documentation on the CDs/liners themselves
reosarevok
Well, if you want you can ask them here, I'm not the only one who understand classical
(I hope...)
*understands even!
nattie
*nods*
reosarevok
So even if I'm not around you can get help
nattie
in general, if credits are for the entire album, rather than individual tracks, should they be applied to all the tracks then?
(even if we have a vague idea that not everyone performed on a particular track)
also, where personnel of a group is known, should it be documented? (like up to an octet maybe, not a whole choir!)
CatQuest will try to hlep if they can
yay!
CatQuest
(ignor my spelling though:D)
nattie
hopefully at some point i'll also know enough to help never people
*newer
CatQuest
yay!
nattie
ignore my spelling too
CatQuest
that's the lovely circle of musicbrainz <3
haha
nattie
well, i guess i'm here now. hello everyone!
CatQuest
[20:25] <nattie> in general, if credits are for the entire album, rather than individual tracks, should they be applied to all the tracks then?
nattie accidentally another community, it seems ;)
for that i'd do it only on the album level jsut to make sure tbh
nattie
*nods* makes sense
CatQuest
:D yay! welcome to MusicBrainz!
reosarevok
Basically, yeah
I might make an exception for cases where you're like "ok, I'm fairly sure this is for the entire album, but maybe one of them doesn't play in this one track, not sure"
But I'd go release level for cases where it's more like "well, there's a list of people, but I'd totally be guessing if I set it on recordings"
CatQuest nods
nattie is specifically on about Quia Amore Langueo, which is both very specifically and very vaguely documented
And sometimes, especially for classical, you can figure it out easily with listening or context
Yeah, that album seemed hard :D
CatQuest
atleast it's not scholtz :D
reosarevok
In that case, I think both approaches are kinda messy, but I don't have any better suggestion than "send a mail to the composer or something"
(hey, sometimes it works...)
nattie
that's actually kind of tempting - i've emailed the composer before and he seemed really nice
CatQuest
:O
then dooo it!
<3
reosarevok
In general you can often figure out that, well, this specific work seems to be for unaccompanied choir, so probably no organ here
Or whatnot
But in this case it's not the kind of thing you can find info like that, so :)
CatQuest usually listens to stuff that is medieval, no chance emailing the composer there :D
Yeah
nattie
"Dear Machaut, what up G-dawg..." ;)
reosarevok
Pretty sure MB does not accept "the composer told me in an occult session"
nattie
yeah
i'll email the composer, but it may be in December or so, when i have the headspace for it
CatQuest is laughing right now
more specifically, for things like bands where musicians are credited, should i put those in?
reosarevok
Depends
So, are you thinking classical or popular?
CatQuest
"I asked Purcell, and Purcell be like..."
nattie
(mostly because my music-finding MO has often been "oh, they're also in such-and-such")
reosarevok
I guess popular from that
petecress has quit
nattie
reosarevok: that vague folk/early overlap, mostly
reosarevok
Ok. There's certainly nothing bad about listing all performers if you have them
nattie
(concretely something like members of the Dufay Collective also being in the Carnival Band, for example)
petecress joined the channel
*nods*
i'll do that, but this may be a few months down the line
reosarevok
When I have, say, a string quartet, I often (if I can be bothered) list the violins, viola and cello explicitly
At least if I'm sure that they all play
nattie
this all started with digitising CDs ahead of a move, so a lot of stuff may happen on the other end rather than here/now
reosarevok
If you've reached the point of setting the recording artists (I forget) then I'd generally only set the quartet itself there
(same for a vocal group or whatnot)
nattie
i think i still need to read about recordings/recording artists to make sure i've got that right
reosarevok
And of course for popular music and usually folk too that doesn't really apply - you'll want the band as track artist, recording artist, etc
nattie
i'm not touching that until i understand it
reosarevok
But you can definitely still add relationships if you know that X played guitar or banjo or vacuum cleaner
CatQuest
nattie: deffo, do it at your own pace, doing ot too fast wil either burn otu out or end up not finishing: (see me, i started adding releases in in 2004 and thne i kidna.. uh continued editng)
reosarevok
(I wouldn't mind some vacuum cleaner folk)
CatQuest
it's not 2020 and i stil havent added all my music, (and the datamodel is by now os differnt that the ones I *did* add are a bit outo f acurate)
nattie seems to have a ton of random self-released CDs from people
reosarevok
CatQuest: I mean, I can try and play the vacuum cleaner myself, but I doubt it'd sound folky ;p
CatQuest
nattie: cool! add those!
evelyn
hey nattie o/ i have added quite a bit of folk music to the db :)
nattie
ooh, hi evelyn *wave*
petecress has quit
CatQuest: will do, as i stumble across them. they're either in boxes atm, or supposed to be in boxes...
CatQuest
:D
evelyn
reosarevok the queen of hearts by offa rex
maybe bonnie light horseman too
(both american like them)
reosarevok
Will check! :) thanks
nattie
anyway, back later!
lovely meeting you, reosarevok and CatQuest!
reosarevok
Enjoy! :)
evelyn
i find american idea of folk music is *very* different to what we have in the uk
CatQuest
:D
here ad well
as*
reosarevok
I mean, I like some stuff I've heard from both sides (and a lot from here in Estonia of course)
But I really like the sound of this specific stuff, might be the American influence, we'll see :)
evelyn
oh dear, Amazon have started putting a 'prime' watermark on the images displayed on the MP3 store: it adds this ._SS500_PIPJStripe-Robin-Large-V2,TopLeft,0,0_ bbefore the extension
we tried finding ways to get the original size, that could possibly fix your found isse?
evelyn
oh yeah, I know how it works, you just remove the bit after ._
CatQuest
so replace ._SS500_PIPJStripe-Robin-Large-V2,TopLeft,0,0_ with ._SX_SCRMZZZZZZZ_
evelyn
and that returns the original size
CatQuest
yeh
evelyn
if it doesn't recognise the thing after ._ eg _SX_SCRMZZZZZZZ_ it just returns the original size
CatQuest
yes
evelyn
see how the Image Max URL program works
sorry I thought you did not know!
CatQuest
I'm still using the ._SX_SCRMZZZZZZZ_ trick now to get the largest image :)
evelyn
do you have any examples where ._SX_SCRMZZZZZZ_ returns a bigger image than just removing the ._ outright+
?
or are the ones without _SX_SCRMZZZZZZZ_ compressed somehow?
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