Hello here. Is MusicBrainz.org only slow for me? I don't use beta.
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jesus2099
It has been very slow for several days.
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darwin
jesus2099: it's been normal for me, maybe a little slow on submission?
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loujine
I'm mass-merging recordings right now and it seems slower than usual
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cheezmo2_
A release with different track order on artwork and medium. Decide on one or two separate releases? (Is this a case for a "pseudo release" which I have no experience with). https://musicbrainz.org/release/7a551395-63f5-4e6…
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reosarevok
No, pseudo-releases are for translations and whatnot
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darwin
I would think it's just two different releases?
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reosarevok
I'd just follow the real tracklist on the disc, put into the annotation that the other is wrong?
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reosarevok
Unless this is just for the DVD and the tracklists for DVDs are weird, in which case, eh I dunno
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cheezmo2_
reosarevok: that was my thinking. Use the annotation to explain the discrepency.
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cheezmo2_
Tracklists for DVD are weird since the order on the medium has no necessary correlation to how they are presented in the menus.
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cheezmo2_
In this case the menu presentation and medium order are the same, but the track listing on the artwork is different.
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cheezmo2_
Having two releases with long awkward disambiguation doesn't seem right. There are so many DVD/Blu-ray releases that have this issue.
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reosarevok
Yeah
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jesus2099
darwin are you in Europe ?
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reosarevok
IMO just pick one (the one on the menu seems the best)
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reosarevok
jesus2099: I'm seeing it be a bit slower too at times, actually
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reosarevok
But nothing too big. Nothing recent that would cause that AFAICT
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reosarevok
code-wise
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reosarevok
zas did mention something about some of our servers being hit with a lot of requests, maybe it's connected?
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jesus2099
OK, mmhh, I will compare with my other computer. Maybe this one is too old for all these open tabs.
no that's what Firefox tells me but I counted many seconds
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jesus2099
> En attente : 25,65 sDémarrée : 25,65 sTéléchargée : 25,82 s
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jesus2099
> Waiting : 25,65 s / Started : 25,65 s / Downloaded : 25,82 s
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jesus2099
So it is not my network that seems slow but the delay before I start receiving the page, MBS server runs slow, for me.
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jesus2099
Or my request took time to reach MBS... (._.?)
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Rotab
that release is very slow to load for me
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jesus2099
Rotab : Oh, could it be that it's a specific set of entities that are slow? Your browsing of MB in general was OK before you tried this release and it is slow specifically for it? As I am "working" on this, I may not have noticed the other page, that loads fast as usual...
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jesus2099
wow it's true! The rest of MBS is fast! I typed !mb bowie, then big artist page loaded quick
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darwin
(ftr, that release is also very slow to load for me, even on a second load which one would presume is semi-cached?)
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reosarevok
Yeah, that one is slooow
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reosarevok
Wonder if it's the cover art, the rels, or something else :/
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jesus2099
It must be more something like the relationships, the pending edits, something like than, rather than the cover art. Because it's a server taking time before sending me the page. Then cover arts are begining to load from a separate server (archive.org) only once my browser does receive the page. And when browser receives the page, everything is
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jesus2099
pretty fast.
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evelyn
I mean look at those relationships, that's huge
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hakko
hello! I've been looking for a database that can let me find all tracks related to a singer and MusicBrainz has come the closest. Impressive! But not quite.
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hakko
I am really impressed by how MusicBrainz deals with character voice actors/actresses
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hakko
But it seems when it comes to query, MusicBrainz still relies only on the text in the tag, so it doesn't show the tracks belonging to groups consisting of the singer
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evelyn
what do you mean - if a track is credited to a group that will be obvious
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evelyn
there is no guarantee that a track credited to a group will be credited to a singer unless that relationship is added e.g. lead vocals by <artist> on a given track or album
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levine
hakko: Nah it doesn't rely just on text in tags. It's a full fledged relational database. Could you give an example of what you're looking to search for?
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hakko
I know I know, but I want a way to query it so that I get all tracks related to a singer as widely as possible
Sashide Maria is not marked as belonging to QU4RTZ, because it's her character Emma Verde that's marked
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levine
The problem with that artist is simply that she isn't linked to any recordings by way of relationships
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evelyn
Yeah, compare that link I gave above - that's what you'd expect to see if the relationships to recordings were present, which sounds like what you're after
double relationships (not even sure what you mean there) aren't a problem, it is very common to be a member of multiple groups or even for a group to be a member of another group like a supergroup
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hakko
a member of multiple group is not my concern, but I am interested in the group be member of another group scenario
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levine
Either Edit the artist and Add relationships, or go to a release and select Edit relationships (useful if you want to add the same artist to many/all the recordigns of a release)
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levine
Oooh okay hang on. You are asking whether the character or the real singer should be added? That's a good question.
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hakko
but in that case it's both "member of" relationship outer and inner, but in my case it's "member of" outer and "voice of" inner
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hakko
Yes, the problem I have it to go from the real singer to the character
