fyi relationship editing on beta should be stable again, so feel free to continue using it and report any new bugs
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ruaok
everyone: I just moved one of our search servers over to another container.
2015-03-03 06243, 2015
ruaok
if anyone finds anything weird with searches, ping me please.
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latsni
Hi everyone, i want to add the "cover" attribute to a recording, but i am stuck at the point that i can't apply between two different recordings, what i am doing wrong and how to make it better? http://musicbrainz.org/relationship/a3005666-a872…
2015-03-03 06258, 2015
kuno
latsni: the cover attribute is between a recording and a work
2015-03-03 06228, 2015
latsni
kuno: i need to add a work first?
2015-03-03 06231, 2015
kuno
yes
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kuno
and both recordings will be linked to that work with the performance relationship you just linked, but only one of them will have the "cover" attribute checked on that relationship.
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latsni
kuno: thx you very much :)
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mb-chat-logger
New post: blog: We’ve been accepted to Summer of Code! <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2015/03/03/weve-been-accepted-to-summer-of-code/>
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atishay
hi guys.. i'm a gsoc aspirant from India. I wish to discuss about the project: Finish implementation of SOLR Search. Can someone please elaborate about the requirements of the project
2015-03-03 06217, 2015
reosarevok
atishay: #musicbrainz-devel ;)
2015-03-03 06208, 2015
atishay
oops! thanks
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murphycr
Would a more experienced editor than I mind doing a sanity check on a couple open edits I have? It was a remixed song and I want to make sure I classified it under the right artist
These "unofficial" (assuming it is) remixes are always kinda tricky
2015-03-03 06238, 2015
reosarevok
In theory, the release artist should also be the original artist
2015-03-03 06254, 2015
reosarevok
But it's true that it looks kinda weird to add stuff like this to their discography
2015-03-03 06219, 2015
murphycr
should I not add it to the database? >_<
2015-03-03 06236, 2015
Leo_Verto
nonono, moar data
2015-03-03 06240, 2015
reosarevok
No, no, it should definitely be added
2015-03-03 06245, 2015
reosarevok
I just don't know what's the "right" way :)
2015-03-03 06255, 2015
murphycr
So thats also an interesting question: it's an 'official' release by a remixer, but not 'official' for the original artist; what should I put as the release status for the remix?
2015-03-03 06206, 2015
Leo_Verto
hmm, there is a "remix" release group type
2015-03-03 06233, 2015
reosarevok
That's also something I don't really know :) (and given I'm supposed to be the one deciding it, that probably means it's unclear...)
2015-03-03 06200, 2015
murphycr
I would see my open edit on the london grammar discography even though it hasn't been applied, right?
2015-03-03 06210, 2015
reosarevok
We really should have a discussion about how to deal with this kind of stuff. I'll add a style ticket
2015-03-03 06236, 2015
Freso
Sometimes I add single-track remixes as a releases, and put the remixer as the release artist.
2015-03-03 06202, 2015
Freso
But not always. Depends on circumstances.
2015-03-03 06220, 2015
murphycr
I think that's what I did; release artist was the remixer, track artist was the original artist
2015-03-03 06240, 2015
murphycr
with a relationship to the release artist from the track
2015-03-03 06226, 2015
Leo_Verto
oh, I also need to merge that song with "Carl Sagan" as artist
2015-03-03 06239, 2015
Leo_Verto
but I suppose that's kinda the same situation
2015-03-03 06231, 2015
Leo_Verto
someone sampled Sagan for a song
2015-03-03 06216, 2015
murphycr
@Leo_Verto there's a "contains samples by" relationship :D
2015-03-03 06215, 2015
Leo_Verto
yeah, there's a correct recording for it
2015-03-03 06221, 2015
Leo_Verto
although of a slightly different length
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reosarevok created http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-473 but it'll take some time before I get to it
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murphycr
@reosarevok FWIW, if you think about it, the artist 'releasing' the album in this case is the remixer, even though the primary artist on the recording is the original artist
2015-03-03 06232, 2015
reosarevok
Yeah, it makes a fair amount of sense
2015-03-03 06246, 2015
reosarevok
We just don't have a clear consensus or decision on how to do it so far :)
reosarevok entered a comment at http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31916629 - not that I expect him to listen to me since he never has
2015-03-03 06225, 2015
STalKer-X
you could "ask him to leave" ;)
2015-03-03 06208, 2015
reosarevok
Heh
2015-03-03 06215, 2015
reosarevok
I can't, really, not myself anyway
2015-03-03 06219, 2015
reosarevok
Not a power I have :)
2015-03-03 06209, 2015
flamingspinach
<reosarevok> *declares liftarn to be bad style*
2015-03-03 06246, 2015
nikki
we only have guidelines, not rules, so even making guidelines wouldn't fix it
2015-03-03 06201, 2015
nikki
and liftarn has shown over the past few years that he doesn't care whether everyone else disagrees
2015-03-03 06232, 2015
nikki
and we don't even have any "this person is a bad voter" flags we could use to prevent him from voting, nor does the code of conduct even say anything useful that would cover repeatedly voting no on edits which are repeatedly shown to be acceptable
2015-03-03 06244, 2015
STalKer-X
as long as he does not do major harm. hm.
2015-03-03 06204, 2015
reosarevok
I mean, he might scare users away
2015-03-03 06222, 2015
reosarevok
(which I imagine he'd consider a battle won in his crusade against this kind of thing :p)
2015-03-03 06241, 2015
nikki
he wastes a lot of people's time repeatedly saying the same damn things even though the outcome is always the same, he's still the only person who thinks the edits are wrong
2015-03-03 06218, 2015
nikki
and it's been going on for years
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Leo_Verto
unconscious incompetence?
2015-03-03 06248, 2015
nikki
is that a fancy way of calling someone stupid? :P
2015-03-03 06213, 2015
Leo_Verto
stupid and not willing to accept it :P
2015-03-03 06226, 2015
STalKer-X
dunning-kruger?
2015-03-03 06238, 2015
Leo_Verto
yup
2015-03-03 06205, 2015
derwin
"proactive?" "paradigm?" aren't these just words stupid people use to sound smart?
2015-03-03 06249, 2015
STalKer-X
there was an article yesterday in very special german newspaper about the source of this behavior
2015-03-03 06241, 2015
Leo_Verto
A certain member of the Lügenpresse? :P
2015-03-03 06205, 2015
Leo_Verto
*cough* Bild *cough*
2015-03-03 06208, 2015
STalKer-X
nope.
2015-03-03 06226, 2015
nikki
I thought bild didn't count as a newspaper anyway :P
2015-03-03 06228, 2015
STalKer-X
they cited a study that showed that every is stupid except me.
