what would the alternative be? the surname doesn't really belong to one or the other credit but both..
2015-02-23 05415, 2015
johtso
it's kind of awkward
2015-02-23 05404, 2015
Freso
I would just do [Salma] & [Sabina Agha]
2015-02-23 05411, 2015
Freso
That's what I've done before.
2015-02-23 05413, 2015
nikki
I would... yeah, what freso said
2015-02-23 05416, 2015
Freso
And what I've seen others do.
2015-02-23 05423, 2015
johtso
cool, I'll do that
2015-02-23 05430, 2015
nikki
to me putting it in the join phrase implies that it's not part of their name, when it obviously is
2015-02-23 05427, 2015
CallerNo6
the way discogs did it seem even weirder
2015-02-23 05424, 2015
nikki
hibiscuskazeneko: btw, regarding events that span multiple days, I imagine the best way would be individual events for each day, each linked to a parent event covering the entire set of days
2015-02-23 05451, 2015
hibiscuskazeneko
Should I set the parent event as a series or event?
We generally define it as an imprint, so you should probably use the distributor relationship for distributors
2015-02-23 05408, 2015
JonnyJD_
can we give cat# for distributor AR?
2015-02-23 05457, 2015
reoafk
No, not really. The whole catno/imprint discussion is fairly complicated and a lot of people disagree on i
2015-02-23 05401, 2015
reoafk
it
2015-02-23 05456, 2015
reoafk
In general, distributors are not release labels, but if it's the only way to store a catno, I personally would be fine with adding it there
2015-02-23 05400, 2015
JonnyJD_
hm, we should kill the distributor AR and just use a label that is type distributor.. also makes it a lot easier to add
2015-02-23 05403, 2015
reoafk
(others wouldn't)
2015-02-23 05427, 2015
JonnyJD_
but I can't really follow up on such a change.. Although I am going to search if there is a ticket for that
2015-02-23 05453, 2015
kepstin-laptop
a lot of labels have multiple roles, so that wouldn't really work in practise
2015-02-23 05417, 2015
kepstin-laptop
you need to have some way of saying that they performed a particular role in the connection between release and label.
2015-02-23 05419, 2015
reoafk
Not really IMO. We maybe should modify how we do labels so that the different types work in the same way, but the types aren't enough at all, especially since you can only have one and a lot of labels put out their stuff and distribute extra stufff
2015-02-23 05409, 2015
JonnyJD_
what? no, a label doesn't have different roles. Some companies have a distributor and label with same name -> different MBID
2015-02-23 05428, 2015
JonnyJD_
re-releasing is not distributing. I don't remember an example where a real (production) label is also a distributor. Some labels don't have/use a separate distributor though
2015-02-23 05409, 2015
JonnyJD_
anyways, I will set the label and cat# and try to find a ticket. Adding an AR is 1) too much work for such a standard thing 2) no way to save the distributor #
2015-02-23 05456, 2015
kepstin-laptop notes that the catalog number on a release with multiple distributers is on the release no matter which of the distributers you got it from
2015-02-23 05402, 2015
JonnyJD_
style ticket that is
2015-02-23 05417, 2015
JonnyJD_
kepstin-laptop: though?
2015-02-23 05448, 2015
JonnyJD_
how do you know "which distributor you get something from?"
2015-02-23 05403, 2015
JonnyJD_
I mean, amazon isn't a distributor in that sense
2015-02-23 05420, 2015
kepstin-laptop
you don't, normally...
2015-02-23 05441, 2015
JonnyJD_
yes, you only state what is on the release and be done with
2015-02-23 05422, 2015
JonnyJD_
if somebody finds out there have been other associated distributors (not sure how though) then add these additionally (but then you also might know if that is a different or no cat#)
2015-02-23 05434, 2015
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2015-02-23 05453, 2015
kepstin-laptop
well, releases typically indicate distributors by having in fine print on the back "distributed by X", which imo seems like a perfect use for an AR.
2015-02-23 05457, 2015
JonnyJD_
yes that is difficult in some cases, but no reason to make it difficult for the easy ones (my music is always easy..)
2015-02-23 05449, 2015
kepstin-laptop
in most cases, the distributor isn't as important as the consumer-visible "brand" ("imprint"), so having it in the same label field doesn't make sense, imo.
2015-02-23 05454, 2015
JonnyJD_
hm, you say in that case people would be confused having to add that as "label with type distributor without cat#"?
2015-02-23 05440, 2015
JonnyJD_
this is not about importance this is about easily adding a release in the release editor. And the distributor # is an identifying fact that is nice to have there
2015-02-23 05402, 2015
kepstin-laptop
easily adding a release in the release editor? well, that's an *entirely* different issue from data model
2015-02-23 05435, 2015
kepstin-laptop
solution to that is to integrate the relationship editor and release editor more closely, and that's something that iirc has been worked on, and will probably happen at some point.
2015-02-23 05453, 2015
CallerNo6 doesn't know what a distributor # is
2015-02-23 05405, 2015
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2015-02-23 05418, 2015
JonnyJD_
well yes, somewhat. The issue at hand is that we have two different "releations" with distributor data. One with # and one without.
