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      • Freso
        *bundled

        • 2015-02-09 04010, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        k guess for now will just be entering standalone recordings, but will add "Works" and other stuff as I learn more

        • 2015-02-09 04023, 2015

      • Freso
        Cool.

        • 2015-02-09 04037, 2015

      • Freso
        Also, stuff like where something was recording can be added as well.

        • 2015-02-09 04053, 2015

      • Freso
        (Using Areas and Places.)

        • 2015-02-09 04008, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        all the media files and youtube links on my site have a lot of structured schema.org microdata markup telling all that stuff

        • 2015-02-09 04013, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        where recorded etc. when

        • 2015-02-09 04025, 2015

      • Freso
        And if you have recordings of a performance at a concert or a similar event, you can create the Event as an entity and link the recording to that.

        • 2015-02-09 04029, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        wll not all of them but many

        • 2015-02-09 04046, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        yay an album from 1994 was a live one from a gig at an air force base

        • 2015-02-09 04057, 2015

      • Freso
        :)

        • 2015-02-09 04055, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        got all the event info marked up with schema.org for this mp3 on this page http://www.thebicyclingguitarist.net/songs/itswha…

        • 2015-02-09 04000, 2015

      • Freso
        All the various kinds of ways things can be connected on MusicBrainz can be seen at https://musicbrainz.org/relationships - though that might be a bit convoluted.

        • 2015-02-09 04047, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        just started this stuff, not used to thinking so logically (or I probably would never have become The Bicycling Guitarist)

        • 2015-02-09 04025, 2015

      • Freso
        Feel free to ask. Just... you don't have to write a short story every time you join the channel to introduce yourself. :)

        • 2015-02-09 04038, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        thanks for the link and the help. I will press on within the limits of what I'm sure are okay and try to learn as much as I can from the docs.

        • 2015-02-09 04041, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        k

        • 2015-02-09 04014, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        already waiting to fix one boo boo...with title, capitalize title case or at least first AND last word right?

        • 2015-02-09 04045, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        Early morning hours performed on a bicycle the bicycle is lower case I forgot

        • 2015-02-09 04056, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        will fix later? or should delete and make new edit?

        • 2015-02-09 04046, 2015

      • Freso
        TheBikeGuitarist: About Works: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Work

        • 2015-02-09 04054, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        bookmarking

        • 2015-02-09 04012, 2015

      • Freso
        The documentation has a page for all entity types if you need to look up what something is if you're not sure about it.

        • 2015-02-09 04025, 2015

      • Freso
        About capitalisation...

        • 2015-02-09 04045, 2015

      • Freso
        https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Language/English

        • 2015-02-09 04006, 2015

      • Freso
        https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style is generally a good thing to get familiar with as you edit more.

        • 2015-02-09 04022, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        yep is how I found I made that boo boo

        • 2015-02-09 04042, 2015

      • Freso
        But you don't seem to be doing crazy stuff just yet, so just keep it in mind when you come across something you're not sure how to handle.

        • 2015-02-09 04047, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        I can fix it later right? after edit approved? or should delete and start over (think I read the latter is preferred)

        • 2015-02-09 04017, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        I play guitar while riding a bicycle. I'm glad you don't think that's crazy stuff. Some do, lol.

        • 2015-02-09 04040, 2015

      • Freso
        Sure.

        • 2015-02-09 04052, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        bye for now got a lot to learn take care and thanks again

        • 2015-02-09 04002, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        i don't wanna mess up your database trying to do this right

        • 2015-02-09 04004, 2015

      • Freso
        I used to play bones while bicycling. I know at least one guy playing the fiddle while biking.

        • 2015-02-09 04012, 2015

      • TheBikeGuitarist
        :)

        • 2015-02-09 04042, 2015

      • Freso
        Playing the double bass while cycling begins to sound pretty crazy to me.

        • 2015-02-09 04046, 2015

      • Freso
        But guitar? Nah.

        • 2015-02-09 04048, 2015

      • reosarevok_
        haha

        • 2015-02-09 04056, 2015

      • reosarevok_
        Cello would already be a bit hard :p

        • 2015-02-09 04003, 2015

      • Freso
        True.

        • 2015-02-09 04013, 2015

      • reosarevok_
        Marimba!

        • 2015-02-09 04030, 2015

      • reosarevok_
        (that'd be actually not that hard I guess, assuming you attached the marimba right - just kinda heavy to pedal)

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      • Freso
        We still don't have a typeless search, right?

        • 2015-02-09 04001, 2015

      • Freso
        Or did ijabz implement it and it just isn't exposed in the WUI?

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      • chirlu`
        Freso: The latter.

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      • reosarevok
        Reminder: if you have an opinion on abbreviation in ETI, https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Abbr…

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Thoughts, anyone? http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8209

        • 2015-02-09 04059, 2015

      • reosarevok
        8209 D: god so many

        • 2015-02-09 04008, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Those are my first thoughts :p

        • 2015-02-09 04012, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Now let's see the ticket

        • 2015-02-09 04028, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I think this is a duplicate, but I also think it's something we're hoping to get done

        • 2015-02-09 04047, 2015

      • reosarevok
        http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1347 yup, dupe :)

        • 2015-02-09 04001, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I *think* someone mentioned wanting to try to get it done for this schema change

        • 2015-02-09 04004, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Hope it's true :)

        • 2015-02-09 04016, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Heh, 21 votes

        • 2015-02-09 04025, 2015

      • reosarevok
        So I guess the general thoughts are YES PLEASE

        • 2015-02-09 04026, 2015

      • reosarevok
        :)

        • 2015-02-09 04040, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        why not generate that from the (contained) release titles?

        • 2015-02-09 04000, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Because that requires having an actual release with that title, I imagine :)

        • 2015-02-09 04021, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I mean, I don't think any release is actually called "The White Album"

        • 2015-02-09 04030, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (well, any release in the The Beatles RG :p)

        • 2015-02-09 04030, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        oh, right

        • 2015-02-09 04044, 2015

      • CallerNo6 was only thinking of pseudos

        • 2015-02-09 04058, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        (and transl*tions)

        • 2015-02-09 04019, 2015

      • reosarevok
        For those, it might still make sense to have an alias for the title so that people can find it, even if you don't care for the translit and won't waste time adding the whole pseudo

        • 2015-02-09 04042, 2015

      • reosarevok
        But I do agree ideally it would also look at release titles when searching in any case

        • 2015-02-09 04038, 2015

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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I'm sick of seeing edits like this http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31489471

        • 2015-02-09 04042, 2015

      • mb-chat-logger
        New post: blog: Server update, 2015-02-09 <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2015/02/09/server-update-2015-02-09/>

        • 2015-02-09 04039, 2015

      • KRS-Cuan
        The joy of not editing/watching many Korean artists.

        • 2015-02-09 04039, 2015

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      • CallerNo6
        it's that editors first/only edit

        • 2015-02-09 04032, 2015

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        • 2015-02-09 04017, 2015

      • KRS-Cuan
        There are lots and lots of Korean artists using both Hangul and Latin alphabet names, which leads to these edits.

        • 2015-02-09 04021, 2015

      • KRS-Cuan
        And also many dupes.

        • 2015-02-09 04042, 2015

      • KRS-Cuan
        Generally speaking, it leads to headaches

        • 2015-02-09 04013, 2015

      • KRS-Cuan
        No matter whether the editors are new or veterans.

        • 2015-02-09 04029, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        That's why we have aliases.

        • 2015-02-09 04051, 2015

      • Freso
        Aliases aren't exactly featured prominently.

        • 2015-02-09 04057, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I generally advise new editors that if they want the hangul to show up in search results, they should set that alias to Prinary.

        • 2015-02-09 04010, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        primary*

        • 2015-02-09 04036, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I wish we would move aliases to /edit with the rest, so we could add them when adding the artist :/

        • 2015-02-09 04038, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        anybody who hasn't voted for http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2677 is a bad person. it's that simple.

        • 2015-02-09 04049, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        so. like, the population of the world, minus 9.

        • 2015-02-09 04013, 2015

      • Freso
        I wish we'd have a lot more in /edit in general. :p

        • 2015-02-09 04018, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Aww

        • 2015-02-09 04024, 2015

      • reosarevok
        But I can't vote for it, CallerNo6 :(

        • 2015-02-09 04028, 2015

      • reosarevok
        No hope for me

        • 2015-02-09 04000, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        I guess you could try being an anti-hero.

        • 2015-02-09 04019, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        ha! more votes. hyperbole works. maybe i should use that technique in edit notes.

        • 2015-02-09 04038, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I'm not sure what to do about this release http://musicbrainz.org/release/d30d1bb6-63e6-4020…

        • 2015-02-09 04049, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        It appears the first track has been removed from the iTunes listing

        • 2015-02-09 04055, 2015

      • Leo_Verto
        uh, multiple release versions?

        • 2015-02-09 04058, 2015

      • Leo_Verto
        *releases

        • 2015-02-09 04006, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I suppose

        • 2015-02-09 04021, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, if it used to be there, I guess new release

        • 2015-02-09 04025, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (wtf, music industry)

        • 2015-02-09 04030, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I checked the Wayback Machine and it appears there was a digital booklet initially that has also been removed

        • 2015-02-09 04039, 2015

      • Leo_Verto
        only removed in the US?

        • 2015-02-09 04044, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Worldwide

        • 2015-02-09 04048, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I just checked

        • 2015-02-09 04000, 2015

      • chirlu` is very glad not to be a bad person.

        • 2015-02-09 04032, 2015

      • chirlu`
        chirlu` has changed the topic to: Developers: #musicbrainz-devel | Latest Release: http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=2820 | IRC Log: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/

        • 2015-02-09 04058, 2015

      • hawke continues to be a bad person, because he doesn’t understand what would be filtered or how it would be beneficial

        • 2015-02-09 04040, 2015

      • reosarevok
        The idea is to be able to see only edits by new editors

        • 2015-02-09 04047, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (so you can help them when they seem confused)

        • 2015-02-09 04033, 2015

      • hawke
        Hmm. Isn’t that kind of what “limited users” tells you?

        • 2015-02-09 04024, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        I dunno. I think <100 edits is still "new".

        • 2015-02-09 04036, 2015

      • chirlu`
        More relevant might be that you can’t filter for limited users, either.

        • 2015-02-09 04053, 2015

      • hawke
        heh, true

        • 2015-02-09 04000, 2015

      • hawke
        But you can see it in the edit search anyway

        • 2015-02-09 04023, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, but the point is to explicitly look for all newbie edits to find people who need help

        • 2015-02-09 04031, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Not to happen to find some while doing something else :)

        • 2015-02-09 04051, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Searching for limited users would make sense too, unsure if it would be enough but it'd be a start :)

        • 2015-02-09 04026, 2015

      • hawke
        huh, I guess I'd have assumed that 'limited user' was an editor flag

        • 2015-02-09 04044, 2015

      • hawke
        What’s “untrusted” mean?

        • 2015-02-09 04044, 2015

      • CallerNo6
        of course not. it's a value judgement, like "bad person"

        • 2015-02-09 04033, 2015

      • reosarevok
        "untrusted" is "we decided that all edits by this person will be non-autoedits"

        • 2015-02-09 04038, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I don't think we've ever used it

        • 2015-02-09 04042, 2015

      • hawke
        ah

        • 2015-02-09 04003, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Wasn't something like it used for Likedis Auto?

        • 2015-02-09 04003, 2015

      • Freso
        I think it was just the e-mail address being removed.

        • 2015-02-09 04012, 2015

      • Freso
        Or unvalidated.