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      • Zastai
        main issue with this is that it only works because the recording-artist "mastered by" AR was deprecated; and I've been in many situations where different media (and sometimes different tracks) of one release have different mastering credits
      • 2015-02-01 03202, 2015

      • Freso
        That's why I usually default to creating new recordings and then merge later when/if I can verify that they're the same. :)
      • 2015-02-01 03216, 2015

      • Freso
        Yep. So have I.
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      • Zastai
        most commonly main vs bonus disc, but not only that
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      • Freso
        Digital-only releases can easily have separate mastering engineers for each track.
      • 2015-02-01 03227, 2015

      • Freso
        (Not that I've seen that happen… yet.)
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      • Zastai
        I've had a non-digital release with 5 mastering engineers (a collaboration type thing, where different producers recorded their tracks in different studios and mastered them there, so apparently no album-level mastering)
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      • Mineo
        I wonder if it's a good or a bad thing that the release editors autocorrection of external links prevents a url from being used as an "other databases" and "download for free" one at the same time :/
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      • gioele
        hi, I just entered this release: musicbrainz.org/release/0e2df8fe-5135-4a39-ae01-e… (cover here: <http://ia902709.us.archive.org/22/items/mbid-0e2df8fe-5135-4a39-ae01-edb71b8680b7/mbid-0e2df8fe-5135-4a39-ae01-edb71b8680b7-9526124678_thumb500.jpg>). It is a classical release and I am not familiar with those guidelines.
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      • gioele
        First question: is it correct to use "Compose, Librettist 1, Librettist 2" as the release artist?
      • 2015-02-01 03253, 2015

      • gioele
        s/Compose/Composer/
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I'd think so
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      • Mineo
        you should separate composers from performers with a semicolon (https://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical/…)
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      • Mineo
        (not sure who's who on that release)
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Those aren't performers
      • 2015-02-01 03231, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        (I think)
      • 2015-02-01 03215, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Would this qualify as an "official homepage" for a tour? It seems more like a schedule to me http://www.alfee.com/information/live2012s.html
      • 2015-02-01 03236, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        reosarevok: When you get around to it… http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-433
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      • johtso
        Shouldn't the mashup relationship allow the same details as the sampled relationship?
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      • johtso
        it's also a bit annoying that you can't say that a recording generically samples vocals.. you have to specify a type of vocals
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      • nikki
        hibiscuskazeneko: which entity type is style-433 intended for? if you mean artists, then it's a duplicate of http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-329
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      • peaveyman
        Would it be possible to get this edit applied? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/31373438
      • 2015-02-01 03236, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        nikki: I put in the title "Series"
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      • nikki
        peaveyman: done
      • 2015-02-01 03259, 2015

      • peaveyman
        nikki: thanks
      • 2015-02-01 03210, 2015

      • nikki
        oh
      • 2015-02-01 03211, 2015

      • nikki
        so you did
      • 2015-02-01 03231, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        It's meant for event series such as tours
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      • drsaunde
        hey nikki
      • 2015-02-01 03203, 2015

      • nikki
        hi drsaunde
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      • drsaunde
        sorry but i left you a few more turds in the area sandbox
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        ewwwww
      • 2015-02-01 03227, 2015

      • drsaunde
        yeah i guess i could have phrased that better
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      • drsaunde
        my mind is not yet awake
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      • hibiscuskazeneko has been up since 6 PM
      • 2015-02-01 03209, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        and I'm trying to play Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? but can't figure the damn game out
      • 2015-02-01 03224, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Heh
      • 2015-02-01 03243, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I used to watch some TV program from that when I was a kid
      • 2015-02-01 03223, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Me too
      • 2015-02-01 03227, 2015

      • reosarevok
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      • hibiscuskazeneko watched it on PBS
      • 2015-02-01 03245, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I still have the soundtrack cassette
      • 2015-02-01 03247, 2015

      • reosarevok doesn't know if it was a Spanish version or the original, dubbed
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      • reosarevok
        But it was cool
      • 2015-02-01 03223, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko
        I heard there was an unfair win or cheater once
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      • KRS-Cuan
        I only know an animated series.
      • 2015-02-01 03258, 2015

      • hibiscuskazeneko watched that too
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      • johtso
        Does this suggestion make sense? http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8184
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      • reosarevok
        Not under MBS :) Moved to Style
      • 2015-02-01 03230, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I know nothing about mashups, but I'll take a look eventually :)
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      • johtso
        reosarevok: ah, it belongs in style, noted. Thought that style would for guidelines rather than schema changes :)
      • 2015-02-01 03246, 2015

      • reosarevok
        It's not a schema change - we can add attributes from the site :)
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      • johtso
        aha
      • 2015-02-01 03211, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (or well, it's not a DB-schema-change, I guess it technically changes the "schema" but not the one that matters there :) )
      • 2015-02-01 03243, 2015

      • nikki
        it's just more rows in the db, that's like saying adding an artist changes the schema :P
      • 2015-02-01 03251, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Well, it changes the way we categorise info (so a schema) just not the db schema :)
      • 2015-02-01 03256, 2015

      • reosarevok
        But yeah, anyway, style :)
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      • shmias
        hi
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      • shmias
        what if a recording uses samples from films?
      • 2015-02-01 03202, 2015

      • shmias
        can I make a relationship somehow?
      • 2015-02-01 03208, 2015

      • nikki
        there's a url relationship for imdb
      • 2015-02-01 03229, 2015

      • nikki
        (saying it sampled whatever film/show the imdb entry is about)
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      • shmias
        there isn't a film entity
      • 2015-02-01 03235, 2015

      • shmias
        but i could create the film as recording with video^^
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      • reosarevok
        Please don't. Just use the IMDb rel as nikki said :)
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      • shmias
        or i should just use the annotation field
      • 2015-02-01 03205, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Or you could use the IMDb rel? :p
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      • reosarevok
        (I mean, you can add it to the annotation too if you want to specify what part of the film or whatever, by any means)
      • 2015-02-01 03239, 2015

      • Nyanko-sensei
        I have some songs that sample speeches by Hitler, Stalin and Lenin
      • 2015-02-01 03247, 2015

      • Nyanko-sensei
        those are not in IMDB ;p
      • 2015-02-01 03202, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Well, pretty sure we have all 3 in the DB
      • 2015-02-01 03206, 2015

      • reosarevok
        So just "samples vocals by" :p
      • 2015-02-01 03226, 2015

      • Nyanko-sensei
        I should add them then :>
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      • CatQuest
        wasn't there ea "god" SPA thing too?
      • 2015-02-01 03243, 2015

      • reosarevok
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        :O
      • 2015-02-01 03221, 2015

      • CatQuest
        OMG we not have historical areas? awesome
      • 2015-02-01 03227, 2015

      • CatQuest
        we now*
      • 2015-02-01 03212, 2015

      • nikki
        we've had a few historical countries for a long time
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      • CatQuest
        i'm slow you know
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      • reosarevok
        The point is that we don't really have historical areas as such as of now, it's mostly just the Soviet Union, East Germany and Yugoslavia
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      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2015-02-01 03223, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (dunno what else is there but not much)
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      • CatQuest
        what not even chezoslovakia?
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      • reosarevok
        There's code to display them nicely, but not the actual areas, heh
      • 2015-02-01 03240, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, that's one of the others there, I guess :D
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        I should add some of the most famous speeches as standalone works for Hitler and Lenin. they're oftentimes used by "edgy" musicians over here
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      • reosarevok
        Nyanko-sensei: I'm pretty sure there are CDs with those anyway :p
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        should be. otherwise, I wonder where they got them to sample in the first place
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      • nikki
        by long time I meant that they were there before ngs :P (I guess you did know and had just forgotten about it)
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      • CatQuest
        uhm.. me had no areas before ngs nikki ¬¬
      • 2015-02-01 03220, 2015

      • nikki
        we had a country list
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        add the japanese regions, please ^^;
      • 2015-02-01 03237, 2015

      • nikki
        add a ticket please :P
      • 2015-02-01 03238, 2015

      • CatQuest
        (a "country list") but not not area entety
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      • Nyanko-sensei
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      • CatQuest
        hmm should i add ticket for "kalmar unionen"? nei
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      • reosarevok
        Well, countries were just all migrated to aliases
      • 2015-02-01 03208, 2015

      • reosarevok
        er
      • 2015-02-01 03208, 2015

      • nikki
        areas, you mean
      • 2015-02-01 03209, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Areas
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      • reosarevok
        God I'm dumb today
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      • CatQuest
        you and me both
      • 2015-02-01 03227, 2015

      • CatQuest
        ok, vacume
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      • Nyanko-sensei
        ok. will make a ticket when I wake up
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: we're not actively adding historical areas right now :)
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      • reosarevok
        (we might, at some point, but not now)
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      • CatQuest
        so what? I didn't say I should add a kalamar unionen. I said should i? no. because that was centuries ago and I doubth it be relevant to some song in mb
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      • CatQuest
        erh kalmar not kalamar.I don't know of any calamari union :P
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      • reosarevok
        Oh
      • 2015-02-01 03254, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I'm pretty sure it's relevant to a degre
      • 2015-02-01 03212, 2015

      • reosarevok
        e
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      • CatQuest
        hmmmmmmm pretty sure any orwegian would be lie "FK that I'm norwegian" nd the svedes all "tjalla vi är svenskar" i dunno abotu the danes but they're insane anyway soo..
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      • reosarevok
        (for example, there are composers born there, probably)
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      • reosarevok
        (back in the 14th century)
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      • reosarevok
        But it's a pretty small thing because most people are happy to have "Denmark" or whatever
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      • reosarevok
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      • CatQuest
        it was a leagal union. lie benelux ,not really one country.. i tink? maybe history disagree withm e and I might not be objective here
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      • CatQuest
        those finns. i swear..
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      • CatQuest
        hahaha
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      • hibiscuskazeneko
        Calamari union? Sounds yummy ;)
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      • CatQuest
        løgn og forbandet dikt!
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