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10:08 AM
Zastai
main issue with this is that it only works because the recording-artist "mastered by" AR was deprecated; and I've been in many situations where different media (and sometimes different tracks) of one release have different mastering credits
2015-02-01 03202, 2015
10:09 AM
Freso
That's why I usually default to creating new recordings and then merge later when/if I can verify that they're the same. :)
2015-02-01 03216, 2015
10:09 AM
Freso
Yep. So have I.
2015-02-01 03218, 2015
10:09 AM
Zastai
most commonly main vs bonus disc, but not only that
2015-02-01 03249, 2015
10:09 AM
Freso
Digital-only releases can easily have separate mastering engineers for each track.
2015-02-01 03227, 2015
10:10 AM
Freso
(Not that I've seen that happen… yet.)
2015-02-01 03233, 2015
10:14 AM
Zastai
I've had a non-digital release with 5 mastering engineers (a collaboration type thing, where different producers recorded their tracks in different studios and mastered them there, so apparently no album-level mastering)
2015-02-01 03214, 2015
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Mineo
I wonder if it's a good or a bad thing that the release editors autocorrection of external links prevents a url from being used as an "other databases" and "download for free" one at the same time :/
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11:32 AM
gioele
hi, I just entered this release:
musicbrainz.org/release/0e2df8fe-5135-4a39-ae01-e… (cover here: <http://ia902709.us.archive.org/22/items/mbid-0e2df8fe-5135-4a39-ae01-edb71b8680b7/mbid-0e2df8fe-5135-4a39-ae01-edb71b8680b7-9526124678_thumb500.jpg>). It is a classical release and I am not familiar with those guidelines.
2015-02-01 03243, 2015
11:32 AM
gioele
First question: is it correct to use "Compose, Librettist 1, Librettist 2" as the release artist?
2015-02-01 03253, 2015
11:32 AM
gioele
s/Compose/Composer/
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11:41 AM
hibiscuskazeneko
I'd think so
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Mineo
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11:49 AM
Mineo
(not sure who's who on that release)
2015-02-01 03217, 2015
11:55 AM
hibiscuskazeneko
Those aren't performers
2015-02-01 03231, 2015
11:58 AM
hibiscuskazeneko
(I think)
2015-02-01 03215, 2015
12:21 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
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12:24 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
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12:37 PM
johtso
Shouldn't the mashup relationship allow the same details as the sampled relationship?
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12:41 PM
johtso
it's also a bit annoying that you can't say that a recording generically samples vocals.. you have to specify a type of vocals
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12:50 PM
nikki
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peaveyman
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12:55 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
nikki: I put in the title "Series"
2015-02-01 03247, 2015
12:55 PM
nikki
peaveyman: done
2015-02-01 03259, 2015
12:55 PM
peaveyman
nikki: thanks
2015-02-01 03210, 2015
12:56 PM
nikki
oh
2015-02-01 03211, 2015
12:56 PM
nikki
so you did
2015-02-01 03231, 2015
12:56 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
It's meant for event series such as tours
2015-02-01 03221, 2015
12:59 PM
drsaunde
hey nikki
2015-02-01 03203, 2015
13:00 PM
nikki
hi drsaunde
2015-02-01 03231, 2015
13:00 PM
drsaunde
sorry but i left you a few more turds in the area sandbox
2015-02-01 03205, 2015
13:01 PM
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13:02 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
ewwwww
2015-02-01 03227, 2015
13:03 PM
drsaunde
yeah i guess i could have phrased that better
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13:03 PM
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13:03 PM
drsaunde
my mind is not yet awake
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13:04 PM
hibiscuskazeneko has been up since 6 PM
2015-02-01 03209, 2015
13:09 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
and I'm trying to play Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? but can't figure the damn game out
2015-02-01 03224, 2015
13:09 PM
reosarevok
Heh
2015-02-01 03243, 2015
13:09 PM
reosarevok
I used to watch some TV program from that when I was a kid
2015-02-01 03223, 2015
13:10 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
Me too
2015-02-01 03227, 2015
13:10 PM
reosarevok
2015-02-01 03234, 2015
13:10 PM
hibiscuskazeneko watched it on PBS
2015-02-01 03245, 2015
13:10 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
I still have the soundtrack cassette
2015-02-01 03247, 2015
13:10 PM
reosarevok doesn't know if it was a Spanish version or the original, dubbed
2015-02-01 03251, 2015
13:10 PM
reosarevok
But it was cool
2015-02-01 03223, 2015
13:11 PM
hibiscuskazeneko
I heard there was an unfair win or cheater once
2015-02-01 03247, 2015
13:14 PM
KRS-Cuan
I only know an animated series.
2015-02-01 03258, 2015
13:14 PM
hibiscuskazeneko watched that too
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johtso
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14:33 PM
reosarevok
Not under MBS :) Moved to Style
2015-02-01 03230, 2015
14:33 PM
reosarevok
I know nothing about mashups, but I'll take a look eventually :)
2015-02-01 03235, 2015
14:39 PM
johtso
reosarevok: ah, it belongs in style, noted. Thought that style would for guidelines rather than schema changes :)
2015-02-01 03246, 2015
14:39 PM
reosarevok
It's not a schema change - we can add attributes from the site :)
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14:39 PM
johtso
aha
2015-02-01 03211, 2015
14:40 PM
reosarevok
(or well, it's not a DB-schema-change, I guess it technically changes the "schema" but not the one that matters there :) )
2015-02-01 03243, 2015
14:40 PM
nikki
it's just more rows in the db, that's like saying adding an artist changes the schema :P
2015-02-01 03251, 2015
14:42 PM
reosarevok
Well, it changes the way we categorise info (so a schema) just not the db schema :)
2015-02-01 03256, 2015
14:42 PM
reosarevok
But yeah, anyway, style :)
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15:05 PM
shmias
hi
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15:05 PM
shmias
what if a recording uses samples from films?
2015-02-01 03202, 2015
15:06 PM
shmias
can I make a relationship somehow?
2015-02-01 03208, 2015
15:06 PM
nikki
there's a url relationship for imdb
2015-02-01 03229, 2015
15:06 PM
nikki
(saying it sampled whatever film/show the imdb entry is about)
2015-02-01 03218, 2015
15:07 PM
shmias
there isn't a film entity
2015-02-01 03235, 2015
15:07 PM
shmias
but i could create the film as recording with video^^
2015-02-01 03248, 2015
15:07 PM
reosarevok
Please don't. Just use the IMDb rel as nikki said :)
2015-02-01 03217, 2015
15:08 PM
shmias
or i should just use the annotation field
2015-02-01 03205, 2015
15:09 PM
reosarevok
Or you could use the IMDb rel? :p
2015-02-01 03237, 2015
15:09 PM
reosarevok
(I mean, you can add it to the annotation too if you want to specify what part of the film or whatever, by any means)
2015-02-01 03239, 2015
15:12 PM
Nyanko-sensei
I have some songs that sample speeches by Hitler, Stalin and Lenin
2015-02-01 03247, 2015
15:12 PM
Nyanko-sensei
those are not in IMDB ;p
2015-02-01 03202, 2015
15:13 PM
reosarevok
Well, pretty sure we have all 3 in the DB
2015-02-01 03206, 2015
15:13 PM
reosarevok
So just "samples vocals by" :p
2015-02-01 03226, 2015
15:13 PM
Nyanko-sensei
I should add them then :>
2015-02-01 03231, 2015
15:13 PM
CatQuest
wasn't there ea "god" SPA thing too?
2015-02-01 03243, 2015
15:13 PM
reosarevok
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15:14 PM
Nyanko-sensei
:O
2015-02-01 03221, 2015
15:14 PM
CatQuest
OMG we not have historical areas? awesome
2015-02-01 03227, 2015
15:14 PM
CatQuest
we now*
2015-02-01 03212, 2015
15:15 PM
nikki
we've had a few historical countries for a long time
2015-02-01 03219, 2015
15:15 PM
CatQuest
i'm slow you know
2015-02-01 03213, 2015
15:16 PM
reosarevok
The point is that we don't really have historical areas as such as of now, it's mostly just the Soviet Union, East Germany and Yugoslavia
2015-02-01 03215, 2015
15:16 PM
reosarevok
:)
2015-02-01 03223, 2015
15:16 PM
reosarevok
(dunno what else is there but not much)
2015-02-01 03231, 2015
15:16 PM
CatQuest
what not even chezoslovakia?
2015-02-01 03234, 2015
15:16 PM
reosarevok
There's code to display them nicely, but not the actual areas, heh
2015-02-01 03240, 2015
15:16 PM
reosarevok
Yeah, that's one of the others there, I guess :D
2015-02-01 03242, 2015
15:16 PM
Nyanko-sensei
I should add some of the most famous speeches as standalone works for Hitler and Lenin. they're oftentimes used by "edgy" musicians over here
2015-02-01 03207, 2015
15:17 PM
reosarevok
Nyanko-sensei: I'm pretty sure there are CDs with those anyway :p
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15:17 PM
Nyanko-sensei
should be. otherwise, I wonder where they got them to sample in the first place
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15:17 PM
nikki
by long time I meant that they were there before ngs :P (I guess you did know and had just forgotten about it)
2015-02-01 03214, 2015
15:18 PM
CatQuest
uhm.. me had no areas before ngs nikki ¬¬
2015-02-01 03220, 2015
15:18 PM
nikki
we had a country list
2015-02-01 03223, 2015
15:18 PM
Nyanko-sensei
add the japanese regions, please ^^;
2015-02-01 03237, 2015
15:18 PM
nikki
add a ticket please :P
2015-02-01 03238, 2015
15:18 PM
CatQuest
(a "country list") but not not area entety
2015-02-01 03252, 2015
15:18 PM
Nyanko-sensei
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15:18 PM
CatQuest
hmm should i add ticket for "kalmar unionen"? nei
2015-02-01 03202, 2015
15:19 PM
reosarevok
Well, countries were just all migrated to aliases
2015-02-01 03208, 2015
15:19 PM
reosarevok
er
2015-02-01 03208, 2015
15:19 PM
nikki
areas, you mean
2015-02-01 03209, 2015
15:19 PM
reosarevok
Areas
2015-02-01 03214, 2015
15:19 PM
reosarevok
God I'm dumb today
2015-02-01 03223, 2015
15:19 PM
CatQuest
you and me both
2015-02-01 03227, 2015
15:19 PM
CatQuest
ok, vacume
2015-02-01 03228, 2015
15:19 PM
Nyanko-sensei
ok. will make a ticket when I wake up
2015-02-01 03230, 2015
15:19 PM
reosarevok
CatQuest: we're not actively adding historical areas right now :)
2015-02-01 03238, 2015
15:19 PM
reosarevok
(we might, at some point, but not now)
2015-02-01 03214, 2015
15:20 PM
CatQuest
so what? I didn't say I should add a kalamar unionen. I said should i? no. because that was centuries ago and I doubth it be relevant to some song in mb
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15:20 PM
CatQuest
erh kalmar not kalamar.I don't know of any calamari union :P
2015-02-01 03249, 2015
15:20 PM
reosarevok
Oh
2015-02-01 03254, 2015
15:20 PM
reosarevok
I'm pretty sure it's relevant to a degre
2015-02-01 03212, 2015
15:21 PM
reosarevok
e
2015-02-01 03240, 2015
15:21 PM
CatQuest
hmmmmmmm pretty sure any orwegian would be lie "FK that I'm norwegian" nd the svedes all "tjalla vi är svenskar" i dunno abotu the danes but they're insane anyway soo..
2015-02-01 03244, 2015
15:21 PM
reosarevok
(for example, there are composers born there, probably)
2015-02-01 03255, 2015
15:21 PM
reosarevok
(back in the 14th century)
2015-02-01 03211, 2015
15:22 PM
reosarevok
But it's a pretty small thing because most people are happy to have "Denmark" or whatever
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15:22 PM
reosarevok
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15:22 PM
CatQuest
it was a leagal union. lie benelux ,not really one country.. i tink? maybe history disagree withm e and I might not be objective here
2015-02-01 03254, 2015
15:22 PM
CatQuest
those finns. i swear..
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15:22 PM
CatQuest
hahaha
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hibiscuskazeneko
Calamari union? Sounds yummy ;)
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hibiscuskazeneko
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CatQuest
løgn og forbandet dikt!
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