CallerNo6: yeah, I'm pretty sure that Musicbrainz's search is the only one ever that does that
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hawke
(because it is a terrible idea)
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CallerNo6
don't let the good be the enemy of the shitty!
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CallerNo6
or is it the other way around?
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chirlu`
hawke: Since OR is the default for Lucene, I massively doubt it.
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chirlu`
It would mean
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chirlu`
*everyone* overrides the default, except the MB search server.
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hawke
chirlu`: Name another search engine that ORs by default
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chirlu`
Google?
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hawke
Nope.
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chirlu`
Admittedly it gives a warning then (“the following results did not contain all search terms”).
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hawke
I mean I guess they kind of fall back to OR, but that's only if they can't find anything where all search times apply
2015-02-13 04429, 2015
hawke
*terms
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chirlu`
The MB search ranks results containing all search terms higher, too.
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chirlu`
So your “opera OR type:catalogue” first lists catalogues with “opera” in their name, before continuing with results that only match one.
2015-02-13 04446, 2015
hawke
sorry, but the idea that when I search for 'opera' and 'type:catalogue', I actually want *every single catalog series in MB* is just pure insanity
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CallerNo6
I think most people, who are used to google-ish searches, would expect AND results followed by OR results.
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chirlu`
And that’s exactly what you get.
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chirlu`
The first results of the OR query are identical to “all results of the AND query”.
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chirlu`
So I have difficulty to see why the default behaviour is fucking, retarded, shitty, and terrible.
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CallerNo6
Right, so that's good. Like you said, a divider saying "below here, results for OR" would be nice.
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chirlu`
Oh, and insane. :-)
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hawke
Except google is actually intelligent about its search results.
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hawke
it doesn't give you every single page on the internet as a result for every single query
2015-02-13 04418, 2015
CallerNo6
Try playing with netflix's search, if you haven't. They so badly want to show you /something/ that I don't think it's possible to get a "0 results found".
2015-02-13 04446, 2015
CallerNo6
Crap, I wish I'd saved some of my experiments. They were hilarious.
zaz: ok, i can only find artist -> remixER, not * -> remixED BY. Am I looking at the wrong place?
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jesus2099
CatQuest: i have tested Firefox to bypass javascript image visualisers like lightbox… there is no equivalent for opera’s « right‑click, o » (you can use t or w instead but it’s less good) but « middle‑click » works the same !
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jesus2099
btw i have just had a mac for my work and installed opera 12, what was the problem with it ? it seems as good as on pc, no ?
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jesus2099
CatQuest: ↗
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TheBikeGuitarist
sort name question. for "Fred E. for the World" should that be "for the World, Fred E." as sort name?
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reosarevok
That's an artist or?
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TheBikeGuitarist
World, Fred E. for the another possibility maybe strictly following guidelines
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TheBikeGuitarist
yes a person
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TheBikeGuitarist
drummer for R Band (a band I was in 1990s)
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reosarevok
I mean, it's not really a name + surname I guess (unless his surname is For the World)
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TheBikeGuitarist
no it is not.
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reosarevok
So I'd just have sortname be the same as name
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TheBikeGuitarist
oh Fred E. for the World as sort name too?
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reosarevok
Yup
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TheBikeGuitarist
okay, but for "The Amazing One" I entered "Amazing One, The" that is right, right?
2015-02-13 04444, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
ty for the help
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TheBikeGuitarist
oh wait one more please, the name of band is R Band. I put sort name of "Band, R" because is a pun on "our" which would be moved. But it maybe should be R Band sort name
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reosarevok
Yeah. Articles always sort last
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TheBikeGuitarist
so would R Band become "Band, R" ?
2015-02-13 04435, 2015
reosarevok
When you're dealing with a person, Name + Surname, then sort is Surname, Name. But in other cases, it doesn't matter
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reosarevok
I'd just do R Band :)
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TheBikeGuitarist
so "R Band" as sort name is okay? YAY okay gonna go fix.
2015-02-13 04421, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
I hope I'm doing okay. Adding lotta stuff to "The Bicycling Guitarist" artist. If an editor is subscribed to my edits, then my stuff is being reviewed? If anyone has a minute to check my edits, I'd aprreciate feedback on how I'm doing or suggestions what to do next.
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derwin
TheBikeGuitarist: I really dig you bro
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TheBikeGuitarist
yay ty derwin
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derwin
TheBikeGuitarist: I might be kinda faded right now but srsly, I can completely relate to "I feel calm while doing [x] and [y]"
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derwin
where x and y are not really THAT related lol
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TheBikeGuitarist
wish me luck, a producer on America's Got Talent is sponsoring me and submitted one of my videos for online audition. She says I'll know in a week or two whether or not they want to fly me to L.A. for celebrity judge round
2015-02-13 04427, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
with my bike and guitar of course
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derwin
is howard stern still a judge?
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derwin
rest assured, if my vote counts
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derwin
I am dialing that number on your behalf
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TheBikeGuitarist
dunno. don't watch tv. but I have been discovered by one of the producers there.
2015-02-13 04433, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
yay ty
2015-02-13 04454, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
might be in two or three weeks. dunno their schedule. dunno if I'll be selected.
2015-02-13 04400, 2015
derwin
I ran home today while using a hand gyro, which is a weirdly uh
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derwin
combinatorially rhythmic thing
2015-02-13 04418, 2015
derwin
I have to speed up to make the light
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derwin
but I have to keep the hand/arm rhythm
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TheBikeGuitarist
angular momentum
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derwin
yeah. obviously the notes aren't compelled by conservation of forces
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derwin
but I guess I can imagine the feels bro
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TheBikeGuitarist
and the earth and universe are part of the song
2015-02-13 04404, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
because any bumps I ride over contribute vibrato to the strings
2015-02-13 04423, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
so I am jammin' with mother earth and it is contributing to the music
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derwin
have you seen the two documentaries of dude
2015-02-13 04450, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
unexpected vibrato too, plus there's the bicycle noise when I am coasting, that freewheel clicking sound
I have gone probably a hundred thousand miles doing what i do, four times around the world
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derwin
he also cycled the americas
2015-02-13 04401, 2015
derwin
100k is amazing
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TheBikeGuitarist
made an estimate of 10,000 about fifteen years ago, but past couple years realized I made stupid math error, counting hours and forgetting to multiply by ten for miles
2015-02-13 04420, 2015
derwin
last year I probably skateboarded 1000 miles lol
2015-02-13 04450, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
all on the same bicycle, The Minstrel Cycle. Can that be part of my musicbrainz entry, that and Annie the Anniversary Model Stratocaster only guitar I've had since late 1980s?
2015-02-13 04405, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
The Bicycling Guitarist with Annie and The Minstrel Cycle (full name0
2015-02-13 04416, 2015
derwin
I'm not sure it covers specific instruments
2015-02-13 04431, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
schwinn ten-speed as an effects device lol
2015-02-13 04458, 2015
TheBikeGuitarist
on my FB they are listed as band members, and each has their own FB page.
