#musicbrainz

hibiscuskazenek1 that's what's on the cd

the opendisc thingy doesn't even work. soem php error on the server :')

What's it supposed to do/contain?

"exclusive content" :x

So it doesn't say what that content is on the packaging?

(or anywhere else for that matter?)

"bonus, new stuff, exclusif content" roughly translated

Are there any indicators elsewhere what that content is (e.g. Discogs, reviews, blog posts)?

Freso: smukt

darwin: no, i'm not sure. i need a replicating database that will be part of a bigger system. i don't need the web server. but i could find no instructions on setting up only the replicating pgsql database. so i'm trying this. i might be better off with the chef stuff. we'll see

in DBPrefs.pm do I need to edit the host and port for the databases, or does it default to localhost if it is commeted out?

bexta: i changed host in order to eliminate that question. but i'd bet it defaults to "localhost"

thanks, ill pop localhost in there

"# Configuring databases here is required; there are no defaults." is rather ominous

How so?

(Also, while this talk is certainly welcome here, there are more people more able in this area over in #musicbrainz-devel )

seems like it could be saying, for example, "there is no default port number, you must specify it"

but i doubt that was intended

Freso: i do not develop musicbrainz so i didn't think it appropriate to ask user questions there

yeah I didnt want to get in the way of them actually creating :)

"# There is no default server host, you must specify it.\n# There is not default port, you must specify it.\n# There is no default database name, you must specify it.\n# There is no default ..."

tom[]: Setting up servers isn't a regular user question either. :)

so i should ask about "Can't locate package MooseX::Role::Parameterized::Meta::Role::Parameterizable" here? ;)

did you downgrade the version of MooseX?

not that i am aware

from the install.md

cpanm SARTAK/MooseX-Role-Parameterized-1.02.tar.gz

oh, yes. look at that!

thanks bexta

no probs

tom[]: Like I said, more people who are better suited to give help with these things are at #musicbrainz-devel

You are free to ask them either or both places, but you're more likely to get a better and better qualified response in -devel.

Is Pro Tools engineering software? https://musicbrainz.org/edit/33963069

As far as I know is mostly for writing electronic music? But dunno :)

(like, for making the tracks, however we indicate that - somewhat confusing since it's producing and writing together usually)

hi there, I have a trouble setting up a search server. When building index I got the error in WorkIndex.java -> "no suitable method found for add(String) (argument mismatch... method List.Add(Atribute) is not applicabe.

There someone already tried set up a search server successfully?

I see many mentions of "engineering" with pro tools, and I thought it was mostly used for things unrelated to actually writing the music

Filizmundo: you should probably ask #musicbrainz-devel

given how many people come here with install troubles (even using the VM) I wonder how MB is still "open source"

pankkake: thanks I'll go there. MB is "open source" just for those that work in it.

nice, a guy from a breakcore label I like is editing his label's releases on musicbrainz...

darwin: That seems to happen a lot with small labels

Nowhere does it say "open source" has to mean "easy to work with".

Leftmost: sure, but I'm sure you understood what I meant

Honestly, I'm not quite sure I do.

darwin: Are you posting that because whoever this editor is is making the data worse?

many companies do that. publish code that is unworkable without hidden knowledge

"open source" = some day you will pay for this

and CAA is effectively closed source

hibiscuskazeneko: no? he actually found a mistake I made

pankkake, I suspect that the issue here is not one of ill will but of toolchain issues. Granted, you haven't mentioned ill will, but that's what I infer.

darwin: OK, good

Hmmm. Look at the third and fourth artist credits here - http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0743b15a-3c32-48c...

Someone has typed a unicode hyphen in one of the releases. beets & Picard are splitting the Greatest Hits album into another directory. Grrrr!

oh, because they use the alias? I suppose you could tell it to use the name of the artist entity instead, not the credit variation

Munger: I know rite? suoperannoying!

however there is a way to do.. yea pankakke explain

I don't know *how* though :)

I think it's.. "use the translated artist name" or something?

or has newer picards different

I think with beets you have to add a replacement, but that only affects file names, not tags

you know I have the ancient picard. let me try the recentest

The right way is to fix the releases and get rid of the junk variations I guess

yea except that now the "jukn variaitons" are supposed ot be there

"as on cover"

but there is a way to ignore the "as on cover" and use normalization instead

Errr. How does a unicode hyphen appear on the cover as opposed to an sac hyphen?

*ascii

my opinion is that it's stupid, bit those that think of this uh say it's typographically correct

Yeah. It's *supposed* to use the unicode hyphen, ideally. So, easiest solution would be to edit the other AC to use the unicode one

I think somebody added a release from Picard and it picked it up from the iTunes tags

a case can be made for quotes I guess. and i'm starting to agree with those

for that artist I don't think there should be variations of the hyphen. there should be only one

but hypes and ' 's are.. meg

meh*

I don't know how to track down the releases that use a given alias

There's no need, you can edit the specific alias completely

letmesee, jesus2099 has a very useful script/script bundle for this

(but you can use the "Filter" thing also to find something that uses the alias, it's a tiny toggle that I always forget exists but it's there)

that's what his script utilises for certain things i think

Which ones are need changing though. They look identical in the browser :)

however the jesus2099 userscript used the standard search and it might not actually filter on the unicode character

it uses both filter and search

"Use standardised names" in the metadata tags

options

that'swhere it's at, i belive

and right next to it, "convert unicode punctiuation to ASCII"

CatQuest, I'm tagging with beets now though :(

oh

:/

Which aliase(s) should I fix?

See the annotation - http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0743b15a-3c32-48c...

Well, you should probably change the hyphen to the unicode one on any aliases that use the ASCII one

I probably wouldn't change caps but dunno

Right, but I can't tell which is which in the browsefr :)

Oops! There is no f'in browser!

open all them and copy in the unicode one and then hit enter and then only the ones using ascii will go through while the other(s) will be like "buh what?"

and yo ucna close those

Which is the unicode one??

as an aside, it's really annoying that you cannot have more thna one instance of picard open

You can

no

Duplicate the app

duh, I have one ancient version and one completely new the 1 3 2 version, cannot have both open

At least, that works on a Mac

nope

not here

IWFM (tm)

uuhhh what?

It works for me. I do it quite a lot

hmm. well it does not for me, i literally am trying as I am typing this, any openig of one picard and then opening of a different picard just makes the first one come to focus

hello j

Munger: the script that helps you find which release/recording/etc. uses a given artist credit (AC) is old, is there : http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/show/131649

canae you update it and put it on githubforkstuff?

i rarely need it and it apparently didn’t need any update since then

i never quite know if i have to use the filter or the search, i usually click both… and you ?

but it's better if it's in one palce imho

yea, the exactly the same ;)

that script doesn't seem to differentiate

I get the same results no matter which variation I click

Munger: on what artist ?

results used to be different…

Look at the ones that vary only by the kind of hyphen used

well the script can’t really add features to MBS existing search and filters… it seems that it doesn’t work at all with these… the script is quite clumsy anyway

and as someone said, it doesn’t work for tracks… that could be added maybe…

it works for tracks actually it seems but it displays the recording AC in the result page i guess

Aha! If I search for hyphens on that page it skips the unicode ones

hah!

http://musicbrainz.org/edit/33975722 & http://musicbrainz.org/edit/33975720 - I think I did it right