morning, what you guys do with albums you don´t find in picard? :/
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DocPlatypus
G0re|home: usually, add what info I have
2014-11-09 31305, 2014
DocPlatypus
and technically, it's albums not found in MusicBrainz... Picard is the client, MusicBrainz is the actual database
2014-11-09 31324, 2014
Leftmost
It may still be on the site, just not with acoustids. May be worth searching on the site, then adding something if it's not there.
2014-11-09 31332, 2014
DocPlatypus
but here's what I do: new album gets scanned first to try for acoustid match
2014-11-09 31341, 2014
DocPlatypus
if that fails, I try lookup, then web search by artist and title
2014-11-09 31323, 2014
captainSP
So, I was trying to understand how the musicbrainz schema works, and I
2014-11-09 31306, 2014
captainSP
am in particular confused by the randy jackson example on your page, how do you distingish between artists with the same name>
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G0re|home
Leftmost it´s not, searched already
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captainSP
I mean in particular, how does you decide on whether the artist needs to be added or not? In cases where two artists have the same name.
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ariscop
captainSP, artists are identified by a guid, not by name, new artists are added when they're a different entity to existing artists (ie: different person or type of artist)
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G0re|home
what is Artist Sort Order?
2014-11-09 31309, 2014
captainSP
ariscop: So when I have, say John Williams and John Williams, both with artist type individual, if say a third John Williams comes along with this brand new release, and again, artist type individual, how do you know this album is not from one of the two existing John Williams?
2014-11-09 31326, 2014
ariscop
captainSP, you would have to figure out which john williams was credited, personally i just google but most of my library is avaliable on the internet, it depends on what you're trying to add
2014-11-09 31300, 2014
ariscop
G0re|home, the name used for sorting, eg: "The Beatles" would have a sort name of "Beatles, The"
2014-11-09 31358, 2014
G0re|home
ariscop ah thx
2014-11-09 31317, 2014
ariscop
if you're entering a release, the guess sort name will usually give you what you want
2014-11-09 31339, 2014
ariscop
whatever you would naturally sort the artists name by should be at the start
2014-11-09 31359, 2014
G0re|home
so if I have a split album the file should have the artist
2014-11-09 31308, 2014
G0re|home
and not both artists
2014-11-09 31351, 2014
ariscop
not sure what you mean
2014-11-09 31306, 2014
G0re|home
Rotting Christ split ep with Momentum, the actual file has either Momentum OR Rotting Christ in "Artist Sort Order" not both
2014-11-09 31343, 2014
ariscop
what's in the artist tag?
2014-11-09 31308, 2014
G0re|home
either Rotting Christ OR Momentan, Album Artist are both
2014-11-09 31348, 2014
ariscop
Album artist is credited on the release, you would credit each track to the individual artist that worked on that track
2014-11-09 31349, 2014
G0re|home
so basicle Artist Sort Order is the same as artist except "the" is left out in the front
2014-11-09 31346, 2014
ariscop
G0re|home, if you're using picard, there's a plugin called 'add cluster as release' that will get you to the add release page with the data pre-filled from tags
2014-11-09 31311, 2014
G0re|home
oh thats cool, thx
2014-11-09 31343, 2014
ariscop
should be there by default, can find it in the settings somewhere
This release is available worldwide (where iTunes is available) but is transliterated outside of Japan. Should I add 2 separate Digital Media entries for it?
2014-11-09 31317, 2014
hibiscuskazeneko just bought it and is itching to run it through Picard
flamingspinach: She had some issues with certain things in here. She's in -devel if you need her, and online most of the time so she can be reached by /query.
2014-11-09 31353, 2014
Rasi
zas: acoustic id matches songs of EP1 perfectly
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Rasi
which is no surprise
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Rasi
since the bonus tracks on LP1 are just that EP
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G0re|home
prim type ??? secondary demo, what is the prim type there?
2014-11-09 31343, 2014
Freso
CatQuest: AcousticBrainz is not a GSoC project. It's a MusicBrainz+MTG-UPF collaboration project, attempting to crowd source acoustic information from music files, which can then be used in recommendation engines and for other neat things. It's meant to be a FOSS/libre alternative to e.g., the Million Song collection and similar closed/proprietary data sets.
2014-11-09 31321, 2014
Freso
It's based off the Essentia toolkit that the MTG-UPF has been working on for a while now.
2014-11-09 31327, 2014
Freso
jesus2099 | now either i abandon editing labels or i create exactly what i want and try to ignore what happens with my new label -- that's basically my approach :)
2014-11-09 31338, 2014
Rasi
what relationship should i add
2014-11-09 31345, 2014
Rasi
if an EP got added to an album
2014-11-09 31303, 2014
Rasi
its neither a remix nor a remaster
2014-11-09 31309, 2014
Rasi
and thje "later release" is deprecated
2014-11-09 31316, 2014
Rasi
compilation?
2014-11-09 31342, 2014
Freso
Aaaand caught up on backlog.
2014-11-09 31337, 2014
hibiscuskazeneko
Freso: I made multiple tickets. I asked here to see if I should make one containing several areas or one for each area.
2014-11-09 31315, 2014
Freso
hibiscuskazeneko: I think that's basically up to you, but I would personally prefer to have one ticket per "thing to change" (e.g., adding two areas would be two "things to change", but moving a group of areas to be children of another area would only be one "thing to change" to me).
Rasi: you have to merge recordings not releases ! ;) Please cancel
2014-11-09 31330, 2014
zas
i will do it
2014-11-09 31340, 2014
Rasi
*sigh*
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Rasi
this is so complicated
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Rasi
ok, but i get it now
2014-11-09 31346, 2014
zas
Rasi: just cancel Edit #30005550 please, and check note i added in it about recordings merge
2014-11-09 31329, 2014
Rasi
canceled
2014-11-09 31342, 2014
zas
ok ty, now you may vote on the 4 edits merging the recordings (btw, those should not have been created at all, when you created the release you could have selected existing recordings for those tracks)
