'n' is, I think, the correct abbreviation for "and" because and has 3 letters.
2014-11-06 31048, 2014
KRS-Cuan
It's a bit ludicrous to correct this to "proper English" when the title also contains "Niggaz".
2014-11-06 31006, 2014
KRS-Cuan
And "-az" is not the proper way to form English plurals.
2014-11-06 31019, 2014
reosarevok
heh
2014-11-06 31033, 2014
reosarevok
Neither is 'n' the proper way to write and
2014-11-06 31057, 2014
reosarevok
But we do lowercase "da" for "the", so I guess there's precedent to improve "wrong English" too :p
2014-11-06 31006, 2014
reosarevok
hawke: ping
2014-11-06 31013, 2014
hawke
reosarevok: pong
2014-11-06 31019, 2014
reosarevok
So
2014-11-06 31026, 2014
reosarevok
I'm looking at event series now
2014-11-06 31046, 2014
reosarevok
Any idea what's the right English word for a series of performances of an opera, ballet, musical or whatever?
2014-11-06 31057, 2014
reosarevok
I know I want to add that but not what to call it :D
2014-11-06 31006, 2014
reosarevok
"Run"?
2014-11-06 31045, 2014
hawke
hmm…season?
2014-11-06 31054, 2014
hawke
"run" probably isn't bad.
2014-11-06 31011, 2014
KRS-Cuan
xps2: I don't think we need a secondary type for something as specific as that. Part of those releases could also fall under the soundtrack type.
2014-11-06 31028, 2014
KRS-Cuan
Although image songs are technically not part of a series' soundtrack.
2014-11-06 31002, 2014
derwin
currently it's "n" and I am pretty sure "n'" or "'n" or "'n'" are more correct than that :/
2014-11-06 31025, 2014
reosarevok
"production"?
2014-11-06 31022, 2014
xps2
KRS-Cuan: It is not important whether I want to add secondary type.
2014-11-06 31051, 2014
hawke
reosarevok: yeah, that might work.
2014-11-06 31045, 2014
xps2
KRS-Cuan: this is important. kepstin-laptop: The purpose makes sense to me; it would allow solo works under the artists own name to be displayed separately from their character/role work.
“The current Broadway revival of Kander and Ebb's 1966 musical CABARET is not entirely faithful to the original production.” says one review on Amazon.
2014-11-06 31013, 2014
Krystof
dunno
2014-11-06 31022, 2014
msordo joined the channel
2014-11-06 31042, 2014
Krystof
if you tour, is that part of the same production? What if you have a break? I don't know
2014-11-06 31052, 2014
msordo
Hi everyone
2014-11-06 31031, 2014
reosarevok
hi!
2014-11-06 31029, 2014
msordo
Does anyone know how to query freebase using an MBID? I would really appreciate it!
2014-11-06 31013, 2014
kepstin-laptop
hmm, I looked this up for brewster a while back, it should be in the chat logs
2014-11-06 31026, 2014
kepstin-laptop
lets see if I can find it
2014-11-06 31001, 2014
hawke
Krystof: Yeah, I dunno. At least one reference site refers to 'touring productions' and that a 'production' refers to all the various physical stuff involved with making the show. (presumably that changes somewhat as stuff breaks and needs to be changed/repaired/upgraded, especially for a touring production).
2014-11-06 31022, 2014
reosarevok
Yeah, think I'll go with "run"
2014-11-06 31034, 2014
reosarevok
Seems closer to the definition I'm supposed to be working with :)
msordo: that example looks up a recording, I expect other things would work similarly.
2014-11-06 31055, 2014
msordo
oh, excellent! Thank you very much @kepstin-laptop :-)
2014-11-06 31058, 2014
kepstin-laptop
msordo: the "ns0:id" field is the freebase ID, which you can use to correlate to other things
2014-11-06 31028, 2014
hawke
reosarevok: So does that mean the series will cover several productions (i.e. revivals will be part of the same series as an original run? ;-) )
2014-11-06 31041, 2014
msordo
I will, thanks
2014-11-06 31031, 2014
hawke
reosarevok: Probably doesn’t help that I don’t know exactly what your series is meant to cover. ;-)
2014-11-06 31034, 2014
reosarevok
That seems like a different run in the same way a "revival" of a ten year old tour is not really the same tour
2014-11-06 31014, 2014
hawke
reosarevok: right — but is your series meant to cover 'all the various productions of $show' or 'every performance of the 19xx production/revival of $show'?
2014-11-06 31009, 2014
reosarevok
Well, it was originally requested for AKB48, not musicals or stuff like that, so I don't think that was taken into account
2014-11-06 31026, 2014
reosarevok
But it seems absurd to have a revival as part of the same series
2014-11-06 31036, 2014
reosarevok
(although it does seem reasonable to have a relationship to connect the two)
2014-11-06 31002, 2014
hawke
Both seem like something it would be useful to keep track of.
2014-11-06 31010, 2014
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2014-11-06 31021, 2014
chirlu`
Isn’t a series of events almost the same as a multi-part event?
“I've listed the significant Gilbert & Sullivan comic operas separately here, only because they kind of threw off the curve, and it didn't seem fair.”
2014-11-06 31025, 2014
reosarevok
chirlu`: not really? I mean, you're not expected to attend more than one "part" of the event, it seems like basically a series
2014-11-06 31046, 2014
reosarevok
I mean, you could also say a work series and, say, a song cycle work are very similar, and you would be right, but :)
2014-11-06 31038, 2014
mjam
Hi Guys!
2014-11-06 31002, 2014
reosarevok
hi
2014-11-06 31041, 2014
mjam
I'm wanting to setup my own mb slave server for an app i'm building. It is a commercial application but not at this stage its just a personal project. Do you think there will be any issues with licensing mb at this stage?
2014-11-06 31003, 2014
reosarevok
Does it have ads and/or charge people money at this stage? If neither are true, then probably not, but it doesn't hurt if you mail to info [at musicbrainz.org] with more info
2014-11-06 31026, 2014
mjam
great. I will do that. Thanks for you help.
2014-11-06 31019, 2014
mjam
I'm literally at the very early stages of my application. I'm am planning on setting up a slave mb server this weekend. There are lots of sources online how to do this. Do you guys have any recommedations?
2014-11-06 31028, 2014
mjam
*recommendation?
2014-11-06 31012, 2014
mjam
The app won't have any ad's just yet and as for charging its going to be free!
2014-11-06 31003, 2014
reosarevok
That sounds non-commercial, in which case it's probably fine. But yeah, just write to that mail explaining it a bit and the people in charge of that will let you know :)
2014-11-06 31023, 2014
mjam
Great thanks.
2014-11-06 31046, 2014
mjam
@ALL if any of you have setup a mb slave server at all. give me shout. I'm about to set one up. So if your happy to help I'd love to hear from you. my email: m [at mikejam.es]
2014-11-06 31048, 2014
mjam
Cheers!
2014-11-06 31021, 2014
mjam
Basically just after general pointers and sources of information to set one up
2014-11-06 31019, 2014
chirlu`
If you just want the database, mbslave is probably best.
2014-11-06 31054, 2014
chirlu`
If you need the server, too, I’d just follow the INSTALL.md.
2014-11-06 31036, 2014
chirlu`
If instead you use some text from the web, make sure it is not totally outdated (often given away by mentioning carton).
2014-11-06 31030, 2014
mjam
cheers!
2014-11-06 31039, 2014
mjam
So what would your recommendation be?
2014-11-06 31003, 2014
mjam
I'm setting up a mb db so I can query as much as I want by my webservice
2014-11-06 31020, 2014
mjam
was thinking to setup the mb data as a webservice behind my public api
2014-11-06 31024, 2014
mjam
is the mb slave db structured enough to just query? This would be better as my api would be able to initiate the searches directly on the db without a hop to another webservice
2014-11-06 31012, 2014
kepstin-laptop
mjam: the slave db you get matches the structure of the production db exactly; you can query it directly if you prefer.
2014-11-06 31021, 2014
kepstin-laptop
but our data structure is quite complex :)
2014-11-06 31051, 2014
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2014-11-06 31056, 2014
mjam
I thought so, I'd like to also get responses back with the score ratings like you get from the webservice
2014-11-06 31011, 2014
mjam
As this is quite useful when deciding on which track to match too
2014-11-06 31025, 2014
kepstin-laptop
mjam: for that, you have to be running the lucene-based search server, which is an entirely separate piece of software :)
2014-11-06 31026, 2014
chirlu`
Searches (including score calculation) are handled by a separate server, the search server.
2014-11-06 31036, 2014
mjam
Webserive sounds like the best solution without having to dive into the mb server too much. I have enough complexity within my services as it is
2014-11-06 31051, 2014
mjam
*webservice
2014-11-06 31004, 2014
mjam
The search server would that the web service?
2014-11-06 31050, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the webservice is implemented in the perl musicbrainz server code, except for the search parts - those are implemented in a separate java search server.
