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reosarevok
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2014-01-08 00811, 2014
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reosarevok
"Fuga super, BWV 716 "Allein Gott in der Höh sei Ehr""
2014-01-08 00819, 2014
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reosarevok
yay, old-CSG-idiots
2014-01-08 00849, 2014
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reosarevok
(obviously it's a fugue on that work, not a "super fugue")
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Milosz
-ok so
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Milosz
I've started writing a JNI layer for TagLib
2014-01-08 00852, 2014
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Milosz
maybe someone in here will be happy to know that I'm aiming to add tagging capabilities using MusicBrainz data in this app
2014-01-08 00846, 2014
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Milosz
now I've got playback using libVLC, and tag reading using TagLib
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Milosz
e
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Freso
Milosz: Neat. :)
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Freso
Milosz: Btw, if you have coding (e.g., API/web service) questions, it's probably better to ask them in #musicbrainz-devel ;)
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Milosz
Freso, oh allright
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Milosz
btw this is an Android app
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Milosz
tagging + musicbrainz data I think that's gonna be a first
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Mattx
how many artists are added daily? does musicbrainz keeps updated with the latest/most popular artists from, MTV let's say?
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22:31 PM
Mineo
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Milosz
Mattx, aside from Mineo's tip I found that it's very much up to date even with very new releases
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hawke1
Mattx: There is no concerted effort to keep up-to-date with the latest artists, though, if that’s what you meant.
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Mattx
~180 artists updated daily is quite a lot
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Freso
Mattx: Mainstream artists are generally pretty updated.
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Freso
And I guess that's pretty much the only thing MTV has.
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Mattx
I was checkin echonest and lastfm api
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Mattx
and most artists/albums/etc there are in mb as well
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Freso
Mattx: Last.FM at least uses MusicBrainz data.
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Freso
I don't remember if EchoNest does or not.
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Mattx
yep, but it adds data from somewhere else too
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Freso
Mattx: Well, scrobbling obviously.
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Freso
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Mattx
oh, I didn't know there was a list, thanks!
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Milosz
Yeah that reminds me I will have to negotiate something with MB official, as my app is going to be commercial
2014-01-08 00839, 2014
22:39 PM
Freso
"Database Statistics". MusicBrainz. Retrieved 2012-06-04.
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Freso
Those MB numbers are rather outdated, I'd say. :p
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22:40 PM
Mattx
Milosz, what's your app?
2014-01-08 00844, 2014
22:40 PM
Freso
Milosz: ruaok the one's to talk to, but I guess there's an e-mail address for official enquiry. info [at mb] perhaps?
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Milosz
Mattx, an Android app
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Freso
*one
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Milosz
I'm still writing it
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Milosz
Freso, yeah I'll contact ruaok soon enough
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Milosz
there's still some time
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Freso
:)
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Milosz
:)
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Mattx
Milosz, what app? I'm curious :P
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Milosz
Mattx, hmm well... do you have an Android device?
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Mattx
yes
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Milosz
I wouldn't mind giving you a beta APK
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Milosz
what version does it run?
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Mattx
I thought it was in the app store
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Milosz
no no it's not published yet
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Freso
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Mattx
4.2.x
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Milosz
Freso, ok thanks!
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Milosz
4.2 that should work
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Milosz
It's actually great because I'm going to be looking for beta testers
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Milosz
it's not in a horrible beta stage where nothing works, though
2014-01-08 00831, 2014
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Milosz
just that it still doesn't have some things I want for the M1
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Freso
Milosz: No problem. :) It's always neat having more people actually use the data we spend so much time entering and wardening.
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Mattx
ok, give me a link and I'll try it
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Milosz
Mattx, ok great.. I'M exporting an APK
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Milosz
where do you upload stuff these days.. I guess at MEGA
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Mattx
no, in my server
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Freso
Android 2.2.2... aw. Well, if I get a newer version, I might like to beta test too.
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Freso
Or Dropbox.
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Milosz
Dropbox hmm
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Mattx
or dropbox, yeah
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Milosz
right
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Milosz
ok dropbox it is
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Milosz
the APK is super huge.. a lot of unused drawables and libVLC is pretty fat
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Freso
Well, libVLC also supports *a lot* of stuff.
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Milosz
yeah
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Milosz
it's much better than the Android native MediaPlayer
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Milosz
I also compiled TagLib to run on Android
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Milosz
and I'm writing a JNI layer
2014-01-08 00809, 2014
22:49 PM
Milosz
the native one is severely limited
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Milosz
native MediaMetadataReader...
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Freso
:)
2014-01-08 00842, 2014
22:49 PM
SultS would be interested in the beta as well…
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Freso
At least native Android mediaplayer supports Ogg containers and Vorbis and FLAC.
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Freso
Or does in 2.2.2 anyway...
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Mattx
<Freso> Milosz: No problem. :) It's always neat having more people actually use the data we spend so much time entering and wardening.
2014-01-08 00849, 2014
22:50 PM
Mattx
waaaaaaait
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22:51 PM
Mattx
how do you load the data into MB's database?
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22:51 PM
Mattx
please tell me it's not manually
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hawke1
It’s manually.
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22:52 PM
Mattx
OMG
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Mattx
I hope you're 1M people at least :P
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hawke1
In theory, 1.1 million. In practice I’m sure it’s much less.
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22:55 PM
Freso
Mattx: Hahaha. Welcome to MusicBrainz. Land of obsessive-compulsive music fans with far too much time on their hand.
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22:55 PM
Mattx
hahaha
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Freso
*hands
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milosz
The F
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Freso
We're also known as "metadata hippies" and "walking edge-case generators".
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milosz
I was there doing the exporting when suddenlz
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milosz
suddenly*
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milosz
"The system is shutting down...@
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milosz
for no reason
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milosz
ok here it goes again
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milosz
guess it needed that just now
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Freso
Make sure the export script doesn't have a system call to "halt" in it.
2014-01-08 00835, 2014
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milosz
heeh
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milosz
:)
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milosz
one moment brb
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22:57 PM
Freso
There he goes to check the script for references to `halt`and `shutdown`. :p
2014-01-08 00827, 2014
22:57 PM
Mattx
do you accept the app's permissions? a) play music b) shut down your phone c) ...
2014-01-08 00809, 2014
22:58 PM
milosz
hehehe
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22:58 PM
Freso
:)
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23:00 PM
milosz
waiting for the day I can switch to Android Studio from Eclipse
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23:03 PM
milosz
ok I'm uploading it again... be seated!
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23:03 PM
milosz
That nervous moment where both sides are not 100% sure what to expect ;-)
2014-01-08 00828, 2014
23:06 PM
Mattx
do you happen to know if there's any site from which you can -legally- obtain the url of an mp3 or something for a song?
2014-01-08 00837, 2014
23:06 PM
Mattx
for example in echonest you have previews
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23:06 PM
Mattx
I don't really expect there's something like that, but just in case..
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milosz
ok here it is
2014-01-08 00836, 2014
23:08 PM
milosz
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23:12 PM
Freso
Mattx: The pre-preview music is probably distributed by the label. It's likely from the same source that feeds e.g. Spotify and includes all sorts of stuff people need to go through.
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23:12 PM
Freso
I wonder if we have any Spotify people hanging around at the moment.
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23:13 PM
Mattx
I suppose spotify pay for the music it plays
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23:13 PM
Mattx
I won't
2014-01-08 00810, 2014
23:13 PM
Mattx
:P
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Mattx
I should have included the word "free" somewhere in my question
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milosz
Mattx, I think your best bet would be Jamendo for now
2014-01-08 00827, 2014
23:14 PM
Freso
They pay royalties, sure. I'm not sure they pay the labels just to get the music.
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23:14 PM
reosarevok
Mattx: for previews, I think some stores allow them, but only if you link to them and "promote them"
2014-01-08 00805, 2014
23:15 PM
milosz
the stupid company I used to work at allowed previews for free
2014-01-08 00836, 2014
23:15 PM
milosz
but I suggest staying at a fair distance from them
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Freso
:)
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reosarevok
Freso: labels decide whether to send their stuff to spotify IIRC. Grooveshark is the one that takes whatever
2014-01-08 00837, 2014
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milosz
brb
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23:16 PM
Freso
reosarevok: Speaking of, I miss Grooveshark. :(
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