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      • n1md4
        I've never filled in that box
      • 2014-07-23 20401, 2014

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      • derwin
        "artist no one has ever heard of"
      • 2014-07-23 20432, 2014

      • derwin
        (joking)
      • 2014-07-23 20449, 2014

      • derwin
        if joe blogs is a mashup artist, and another joe blogs isn't, then you could say "mashup artist"
      • 2014-07-23 20415, 2014

      • n1md4
        Ah, k.
      • 2014-07-23 20430, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        some editors /only/ add a disambiguation comment if there are two similarly-named entities.
      • 2014-07-23 20415, 2014

      • derwin
        because they can predict
      • 2014-07-23 20420, 2014

      • derwin
        when another one will be added
      • 2014-07-23 20423, 2014

      • derwin
        (hurrrrrr)
      • 2014-07-23 20447, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        which might mean that they are magic!
      • 2014-07-23 20423, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        other editors add comments to anything that seems like it /might/ be mistaken for another entity now or in the future
      • 2014-07-23 20434, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        in any case, think of it as a search hint
      • 2014-07-23 20446, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        (at least, that's how I think of it)
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      • chungy
        Hmm. I edited Perturbator to note that he started performing as such in 2010. Somehow this became part of it https://musicbrainz.org/edit/28592031
      • 2014-07-23 20409, 2014

      • chungy
        I suppose it's harmless :P
      • 2014-07-23 20441, 2014

      • chungy
        https://musicbrainz.org/edit/28592032 the one I really intended :P
      • 2014-07-23 20442, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        Actually, it's an improvement. Take credit for it :-)
      • 2014-07-23 20404, 2014

      • n1md4
        what happens if an edit expires? I'm not going to want to sit and repeat work.
      • 2014-07-23 20452, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        n1md4: most edits pass if they expire without votes
      • 2014-07-23 20420, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        that is, the edit doesn't expire. The voting period expires.
      • 2014-07-23 20422, 2014

      • chungy
        I think things like adding artists and releases are auto-accepted anyway
      • 2014-07-23 20426, 2014

      • chungy
        (might be wrong)
      • 2014-07-23 20450, 2014

      • n1md4
        ah
      • 2014-07-23 20432, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        there's a flowchart for the lifecyle of an edit @ http://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/Introduction_to_V…
      • 2014-07-23 20447, 2014

      • n1md4
        :{
      • 2014-07-23 20449, 2014

      • n1md4
        :) even
      • 2014-07-23 20409, 2014

      • n1md4
        can someone pass this edit for me, I made a mistake http://musicbrainz.org/edit/28592091
      • 2014-07-23 20441, 2014

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      • CallerNo6
        n1
      • 2014-07-23 20422, 2014

      • CallerNo6
        oops
      • 2014-07-23 20422, 2014

      • n1md4
        ?
      • 2014-07-23 20435, 2014

      • chungy
        You can cancel your own edits
      • 2014-07-23 20440, 2014

      • chungy
        and redo a correct one
      • 2014-07-23 20443, 2014

      • n1md4
        ah, ok
      • 2014-07-23 20444, 2014

      • chungy
        If that's the full band name, I think the sort name would be "Spiller, Daniel & The Broken Record Project"
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      • chungy
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      • derwin
        the best way to deal with recent edits you messed up is almost always to cancel them :)
      • 2014-07-23 20456, 2014

      • n1md4
        For compilations do I add that to various artists, and then credit the artists in the track listing?
      • 2014-07-23 20450, 2014

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      • chungy
        If it's that kind of compilation, yeah. Featured artists can get listed independently, or if just one track or two has a different credit, you can still attribute the album as a whole to the main artists. It really depends :P
      • 2014-07-23 20408, 2014

      • n1md4
        hmm it's an album called chillout groove, with about 12 tracks, but only 3 or 4 different artists.
      • 2014-07-23 20419, 2014

      • derwin
        that's VA
      • 2014-07-23 20423, 2014

      • derwin
        10000%
      • 2014-07-23 20437, 2014

      • n1md4
        great :)
      • 2014-07-23 20448, 2014

      • jesus2099
        bitmap: the ones i used a lot are fast cancel and edit recording comments :) but for that last one i did 2 tweaks that i would have liked to PR you — i lost them but they were simple enough i could redo if you put on github
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      • njh
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      • njh
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      • chirlu`
        Approved.
      • 2014-07-23 20412, 2014

      • Mineo
        the very second I was voting yes
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      • njh
        Thanks!
      • 2014-07-23 20447, 2014

      • njh
        Wonder if the editor should have prevented the original edit?
      • 2014-07-23 20402, 2014

      • Freso
        n1md4: A lot of people here love when people add "obscure stuff". The more obscure, the better. :)
      • 2014-07-23 20411, 2014

      • chungy
        Mineo: I looked at the history for Happy Holidays 2013 by Dream Theater, I was somewhat amused to see you did a lot to it after I added it :P
      • 2014-07-23 20420, 2014

      • chungy
        then months later, you added MMMMMM and I did stuff to that :D
      • 2014-07-23 20410, 2014

      • Mineo
        well, at least we're even now :)
      • 2014-07-23 20417, 2014

      • n1md4
        Freso: I'll do my best.
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      • Freso
        n1md4: :)
      • 2014-07-23 20428, 2014

      • Freso
        n1md4: Welcome to #mb anyway! :)
      • 2014-07-23 20446, 2014

      • Freso
        Please do stick around and ask whatever pops up.
      • 2014-07-23 20420, 2014

      • n1md4
        greate thanks.
      • 2014-07-23 20425, 2014

      • n1md4
        Found a same bundle more
      • 2014-07-23 20459, 2014

      • n1md4
        small*
      • 2014-07-23 20440, 2014

      • Freso
        :)
      • 2014-07-23 20406, 2014

      • n1md4
        I love doing all these edits, spent many an evening on various metadata sites, scanner, editing, searching ... all in the name of getting decent XBMC scraper results ;)
      • 2014-07-23 20422, 2014

      • Freso
        Heh.
      • 2014-07-23 20443, 2014

      • Freso
        I wish XBMC would start storing artists by their MBID instead of by name.
      • 2014-07-23 20415, 2014

      • Freso
        One artist can go by several names, and one name can "belong" to several artists. Not to mention when something is by "Artist A & Artist B" etc.
      • 2014-07-23 20424, 2014

      • derwin
        19:24 < Freso> I wish XBMC would start storing artists by their MBID instead of by name.
      • 2014-07-23 20434, 2014

      • derwin
        +9001, if I had someone to pay to do that change I would
      • 2014-07-23 20459, 2014

      • Freso
        Yeah. That's like my main issue with XBMC at the moment.
      • 2014-07-23 20414, 2014

      • derwin has actually patched xbmc in the past, heh
      • 2014-07-23 20454, 2014

      • n1md4
        yes, there I have a number of issues when scraping, and think an unambigious UID would be perfect! 100% success everytime; providing the metadata exists.
      • 2014-07-23 20422, 2014

      • Freso
        derwin: :)
      • 2014-07-23 20446, 2014

      • Freso
        I started writing an XBMC plugin once to sync up ratings between XBMC and ones MB profile, but I never got very far with it.
      • 2014-07-23 20416, 2014

      • Freso
        Was it warp who's been asking for something like this? I don't know. I still want to do it, but I only rarely find myself in a coding mood anymore.
      • 2014-07-23 20435, 2014

      • Freso
        n1md4: "providing the metadata exists" - yeah, we can't guarantee that every artist will be there (esp. these days will all the self-releases online etc.), so such a system would have to fall back on something else.
      • 2014-07-23 20458, 2014

      • Freso
        But MB does have a pretty good coverage of a large chunk of music, including non-"mainstream" stuff.
      • 2014-07-23 20434, 2014

      • n1md4
        There's the universal album / artist scaper that uses MBs API. I'm not 100% sure, it might even support MBID, it's more likely users don't have their collections tagged correctly, and to avoid the "your scraper is crap" sort comments, I guess it uses names too.
      • 2014-07-23 20441, 2014

      • Freso
        (And getting more applications to use it more, would give more incentive to more people to add more data, leading to even better coverage, etc.)
      • 2014-07-23 20455, 2014

      • n1md4
        I'll have to check. The dev who wrote that plugin is called Olympia (iirc)
      • 2014-07-23 20414, 2014

      • n1md4
        So pleased these are all going in! Didn't like the idea of manually adding them all ... even if I am now, but this feels worthy!
      • 2014-07-23 20426, 2014

      • Freso
        n1md4: Yep. My main issue with that is the apparently most XBMC dev types seem to think that the data (entry) model behind TheTVdb (and thus, TheAudioDB) is state-of-the-art, meaning they'd probably prefer to just switch to TheAudioDB completely if they could.
      • 2014-07-23 20448, 2014

      • Freso
        Which irks me to no end. :p
      • 2014-07-23 20445, 2014

      • n1md4
        hah
      • 2014-07-23 20451, 2014

      • n1md4
        I'm hybrid
      • 2014-07-23 20401, 2014

      • n1md4
        mb seems far more technically correct
      • 2014-07-23 20422, 2014

      • n1md4
        tvdb seems to have dictators running it
      • 2014-07-23 20429, 2014

      • n1md4
        moviedb seems reasonable
      • 2014-07-23 20455, 2014

      • derwin
        movies are way easier to model than tv shows
      • 2014-07-23 20458, 2014

      • Freso
        Yeah. I like MovieDB. I probably like MovieDB more than TV or AudioDB combined. :p
      • 2014-07-23 20407, 2014

      • derwin
        and yes, you get terrible impression of thetvdb
      • 2014-07-23 20414, 2014

      • n1md4
        audiodb uses mb? audiodb being a bit more about the reviews and moods, styles etc ... could be wrong.
      • 2014-07-23 20419, 2014

      • Freso
        But MovieDB also seems like it has a more flexible data structure.
      • 2014-07-23 20423, 2014

      • derwin
        from the way they appear to arrive at broken consensus
      • 2014-07-23 20434, 2014

      • Freso
        You can add a lot of data about movies that you can't about e.g. TV shows on TVdb.
      • 2014-07-23 20449, 2014

      • n1md4
        moviedb does tv now too, so there should be a gradual shift
      • 2014-07-23 20429, 2014

      • Freso
        n1md4: Yeah. And AudioDB also does cover art, which is relatively new for MusicBrainz. However, MB currently has more releases with cover art than AudioDB has releases in all.
      • 2014-07-23 20446, 2014

      • Freso
        n1md4: And CritiqueBrainz will be the "review" site pendant for MB.
      • 2014-07-23 20454, 2014

      • n1md4
        yeah, does seem like it's duplicating work ...
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
        And we will *eventually* implement genres at least. :p
      • 2014-07-23 20453, 2014

      • n1md4
        I'd have thought MB for music (and basic artwork), fanart for the good stuff - although their strict about what's good ... rightly so, arguably.)
      • 2014-07-23 20437, 2014

      • n1md4
        not entirely sure why theaudiodb exists ... something about allmusic shutting the community API access
      • 2014-07-23 20404, 2014

      • n1md4
        I'd have thought at that point, jump aboard MB .. but hey, what do I know.
      • 2014-07-23 20433, 2014

      • n1md4
        (fanart=fanart.tv)
      • 2014-07-23 20429, 2014

      • n1md4
        Re: MB edits. what's the difference between bootleg and promotional?
      • 2014-07-23 20414, 2014

      • n1md4
        ?
      • 2014-07-23 20425, 2014

      • n1md4
        actually, got it
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      • n1md4
        MB accepts bootleg!!! /me tips his hat!
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