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      • Zastai
        so no need for flac that way? then i'll stop looking into fpcalc sources :-)
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      • JonnyJD
        Zastai: yes, no need for flac
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      • Zastai
        i'm seeing triple
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      • JonnyJD_kvirc
        yeah, sorry about that. I am testing IRC programs on my Laptop
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      • JonnyJD_hex
        hexchat looks the best so far, but KVIrc has a lot of features and 1-2 I like..
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      • Zastai
        looks like fpcalc relies on ffmpeg's libavresample api for opening/readig files/pipes, so nothing to fix there for wav. still, might mean that a newer ffmpeg fixes even the wav case
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      • Zastai
        i only use irc occasionally for #musicbrainz, so the freenode webchat is good enough
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      • JonnyJD
        ffmpeg 2.1.1 on my end
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        Zastai: I really think the problem isn't with the tools, but that WAV files inherently just don't have a header telling about lenght and fpcalc needs the length at start
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      • Zastai
        Maybe - but not sure why it _needs_ the length
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      • Zastai
        in any case, it works for cd ripping with aiff/aifc so the point is mostly moot
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      • JonnyJD__kvirc
        maybe it's not the length, just some kind of header to say what file it is
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      • Zastai
        nah; there's other errors it throws for unknown audio streams; it will already have been past that
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      • JonnyJD__kvirc
        well, at least for the cdparanoia "backend" it is no issue.
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        finding a command line backend on Windows might be a problem, but that is a TODO for later..
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      • luks
        Zastai: it needs the length because the acoustid service needs the length
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        luks, but does it need the length up front?
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      • luks
        maybe it doesn,t it's probably just how wav demuxing in ffmpeg works
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      • luks
        but the point is, if it can't get the length at the start, it won't get it in the middle
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      • luks
        and it never gets to the end, because fpcalc closes the pipe after 120 seconds
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        ah okay
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        didn't think about that. So it is a conceptional problem with WAV/RAW data
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      • luks
        yesx
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      • luks
        but I think that WAV generally does have the total number of samples in the header
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      • luks
        so I think it's not the same problem as with RAW files, at least in general
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      • Zastai
        could be that ffmpeg chooses not to trust the sample count for its get_av_length function
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      • Zastai
        (or whatever it's called)
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      • luks
        maybe
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      • Zastai
        jonny, i know cdrdao does commandline extraction on windows -not sure how maintained it is though
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      • Zastai
        not very it seems- last release is from 2009
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        Zastai, cdrdao only theoretically works on Windows. As in: only very few users will have a working installation, I guess.
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      • Zastai
        for reading too? its writing will be driver-dependent of course, but that's not needed
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        Never tried it, but in theory I also use it as a backend with isrcsubmit on Windows
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        Well, I think one of the problems was that no Windows build is available or something like that
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      • JonnyJD_
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      • Zastai
        http://superuser.com/questions/488832/ripping-aud… suggests that cuetools includes a command-line ripper; will give it a whirl
      • 2014-03-01 06043, 2014

      • Zastai
        gui side of cueripper is interesting - even uses MB
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        first question I would have if it is using WS/2 WS/1 or FreeDB, but that is off-topic..
      • 2014-03-01 06014, 2014

      • Zastai
        console ripper works, but rips entire cd + cue. so probably not usable for your purposes
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      • Zastai
        i see no option to rip only a specific track with the console client
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        well, if you rip the whole CD anyways you can just use Picard or similar, yes
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        my basic use case for getting AcoustIDs directly from Disc is having no pressure at all to do something with some files laying around and doing it fast
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        (my test took 3 minutes for a whole disc)
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      • JonnyJD__hex
        so if you have a stack of discs you might not even like, you can submit/match IDs to MusicBrainz fast
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      • Freso
        3 minutes? That's pretty neat.
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      • Freso /late
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      • JonnyJD_
        Freso: yes, removing all "paranoia" and leading only the first 2 minutes of every track (since fpcals closes the pipe after that)
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      • JonnyJD_
        *reading
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      • Freso
        I would probably do 2:05 or some such, perhaps even 2:10, just to be sure. But yeah.
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      • JonnyJD_
        well, I didn't hard-code these 2 minutes. It's just that fpcalc closes the pipe and luks said it was after 120 seconds ;-)
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      • JonnyJD_
        that is 120 seconds of audio data read, not 120 seconds elapsed time
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      • JonnyJD_
        3 minutes is elapsed time for the whole disc
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      • JonnyJD_
        ripping is considerably faster than listening.. although you can try and listen to a faster version of the tracks so it doesn't take that long :-P
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      • Freso does that all the time!
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      • CatQuest
        there's a guy in my passersby wh's name is"hawke"
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      • CatQuest
        I did a serious double take man
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      • HSOWA
        I like this song
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      • HSOWA
        The Beatles ~ I'm Only Sleeping (3:02) Revolver)(1966)
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      • CatQuest
        wow, so can any one access this without logging into google? http://twentyq.blogspot.com/2004/09/ccc.html
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      • CatQuest
        wtf
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      • SultS
        you can’t read it with being logged in either… unless “ you have been invited to read this blog”
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      • CatQuest
        D:
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      • CatQuest
        http://revolved.blogspot.no/2005/02/new-download-… can't get to "interview with ccc" then :(
      • 2014-03-01 06048, 2014

      • CatQuest
        wtf blogger.com showing me norwegian, and if i g to ohelp which is link to http://www.blogger.com/go/discuss it auto directs me to https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/no
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      • CatQuest
        "There is no group named “no”."
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      • CatQuest
        what
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      • CatQuest
        google is seriously falling apart at the seams
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      • CatQuest
        wtf blogspot auto goes to blogspot.no no matter what I do
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      • CatQuest
        idiots
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      • warp
        CatQuest: for blogspot /ncr should work.
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      • CatQuest
        .. what is that?
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      • warp
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      • warp
        no-country-redirect
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      • CatQuest
        hmm
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      • CatQuest
        still the topbar has norwegian text which is retarded
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      • CatQuest
        it looks like I'm logged in or something
      • 2014-03-01 06058, 2014

      • CatQuest
        norwegian "internet langiage" is so moronic
      • 2014-03-01 06006, 2014

      • CatQuest
        language
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      • warp
        hm, I don't see any topbar
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      • CatQuest
        :/
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      • CatQuest
        its probably because THIS WEEK
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      • SultS does… but in in english
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      • CatQuest
        >:V
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      • SultS
        (and I’m logged in)
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      • CatQuest
        hmmm
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      • warp
        does ?hl work for blogspot? https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/2402711… <-- selects english on all/most/some google.com domains?
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      • CatQuest
        warp: but that page is only in english anyway
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      • CatQuest
        let me test on another page
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      • CatQuest
        yes it worked!
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      • warp
        CatQuest: well that's not true, there are translations of that page. https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/2402711… https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/2402711…
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      • CatQuest
        now how do I make *every* *.blogspot.tld do both these things?
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      • CatQuest
        ah, but it didn't auto-go-to the .no one when I removed hl=en so I sssumed no other lang
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      • CatQuest
        thank you so much for you help
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      • CatQuest
        (how did you know btw)
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      • CatQuest
        does ?hl=en and /ncr work often on sites?
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