It only works for edits, and even then it's finicky
JESUS2099
strange… for me it was the opposite… NG for edits, clumsy for adds :/ anyway it doesn’t matter as it has to be fixed (really has because i can’t manipulate works any more either)
same for INLUNE STUFF, i can’t see if there are ISRC and CAA any more
but i will be very busy these days as always… so, sorry pls wait…
god night !
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kepstin_
hmm. can we use work attributes in searches?
reosarevok
Doubt it
kepstin_
hmm. Could we have displayed JASRAC IDs show up as links to a lookup page like the ISWCs do?
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reosarevok
Well, the ISWCs have their own "entity"-like code and everything
But I suspect we could do some kind of direct-to-search link
kepstin_
A "direct to search" think probably wouldn't be as useful for stuff like key
s/think/link/
"Sure, I want to search for all the songs in the key of D!"
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CallerNo6
totally
reosarevok
haha
Freso
"I want to find the average key of all Justin Bieber songs first published between 2011 and 2014."
s/average/median/
CallerNo6
que the "a minor" joke
reosarevok
... lol
Freso
XD
xplat
Freso: you can't even median keys because they go in a loop
mode, sure
but you'd probably have an easier time making mean mean something meaningful than median
Freso
xplat: If you have five works in the key of D, one in the key of C, and two in the key of Bb, the median key would be D.
xplat
Freso: what if you have five works in the key of D, one in the key of C, and five in the key of Bb?
Freso
Bb, Bb, C, >> D, D, << D, D, D -- the mean key of those two marked would be the median key. Which would be D.
xplat: C.
I didn't mean for the query to be useful.
But it's definitely easier to find a median key than a mean one.
xplat
Freso: why wouldn't you arrange them D, D, D, D, D, Bb, Bb, Bb, Bb, Bb, C?
Freso
xplat: Because that's not how sort() would place them. :)
xplat
so when they changed H to B all the median keys would change?
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Freso
They never changed that where I'm from.
CallerNo6 now wonders if ICU collate handles sharps and flats
xplat
oh, you still have H?
Freso
Ugh. A lot of keys are missing from the work attribute keys. :/
xplat: Yeah. I think all/most of Scandinavia still operates with H.
xplat
so ... median keys depend on locale ...
lol
Freso
xplat: Anyway, it should probably be sorted the same way MB sorts, so "C, D*5, Bb*5".
reosarevok
Freso: they are?
I mean, a lot of "theoretical" keys are missing, but IIRC we even have a couple that are basically never used
Freso
(If I had intended that query to be useful, I would not have made it against JB.)
reosarevok: What's a "theoretical" key?
xplat
what keys are missing?
the key of J
drsaunders
Life
xplat
the key of Higgs boson
drsaunders
if you're a stevie wonder fan
Freso
Ionic, doric, frygian, lydian, mixolydian, ...
xplat
the key of A flat major general
reosarevok
Ok, yes, we only have the standard scale
Freso
:|
xplat
hm, a lot of stuff doesn't use the standard scale even these days
drsaunders
does the skeleton key count for all keys?
reosarevok
Most of that stuff doesn't really indicate a key anywhere on easily-accessed stuff though
xplat
pentatonic, chromatic, abusing the heck out of the whammy bar ...
Freso
It's fairly common for trad. to use esp. mixolydian scales.
reosarevok
I think I mentioned that before, but the idea of this was basically having a place to store keys for classical work which have "in key X" on their titles :p
Since those are the only ones where there's an obvious source of the info
So that's what we shipped with
Now, if people want other keys, well, by all means ask for them!