It only works for edits, and even then it's finicky
2014-03-23 08255, 2014
JESUS2099
strange… for me it was the opposite… NG for edits, clumsy for adds :/ anyway it doesn’t matter as it has to be fixed (really has because i can’t manipulate works any more either)
2014-03-23 08211, 2014
JESUS2099
same for INLUNE STUFF, i can’t see if there are ISRC and CAA any more
2014-03-23 08237, 2014
JESUS2099
but i will be very busy these days as always… so, sorry pls wait…
2014-03-23 08243, 2014
JESUS2099
god night !
2014-03-23 08246, 2014
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2014-03-23 08231, 2014
kepstin_
hmm. can we use work attributes in searches?
2014-03-23 08203, 2014
reosarevok
Doubt it
2014-03-23 08234, 2014
kepstin_
hmm. Could we have displayed JASRAC IDs show up as links to a lookup page like the ISWCs do?
2014-03-23 08203, 2014
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2014-03-23 08209, 2014
reosarevok
Well, the ISWCs have their own "entity"-like code and everything
2014-03-23 08220, 2014
reosarevok
But I suspect we could do some kind of direct-to-search link
2014-03-23 08244, 2014
kepstin_
A "direct to search" think probably wouldn't be as useful for stuff like key
2014-03-23 08251, 2014
kepstin_
s/think/link/
2014-03-23 08214, 2014
kepstin_
"Sure, I want to search for all the songs in the key of D!"
2014-03-23 08248, 2014
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CallerNo6
totally
2014-03-23 08233, 2014
reosarevok
haha
2014-03-23 08204, 2014
Freso
"I want to find the average key of all Justin Bieber songs first published between 2011 and 2014."
2014-03-23 08222, 2014
Freso
s/average/median/
2014-03-23 08256, 2014
CallerNo6
que the "a minor" joke
2014-03-23 08213, 2014
reosarevok
... lol
2014-03-23 08257, 2014
Freso
XD
2014-03-23 08224, 2014
xplat
Freso: you can't even median keys because they go in a loop
2014-03-23 08233, 2014
xplat
mode, sure
2014-03-23 08233, 2014
xplat
but you'd probably have an easier time making mean mean something meaningful than median
2014-03-23 08202, 2014
Freso
xplat: If you have five works in the key of D, one in the key of C, and two in the key of Bb, the median key would be D.
2014-03-23 08234, 2014
xplat
Freso: what if you have five works in the key of D, one in the key of C, and five in the key of Bb?
2014-03-23 08249, 2014
Freso
Bb, Bb, C, >> D, D, << D, D, D -- the mean key of those two marked would be the median key. Which would be D.
2014-03-23 08201, 2014
Freso
xplat: C.
2014-03-23 08223, 2014
Freso
I didn't mean for the query to be useful.
2014-03-23 08252, 2014
Freso
But it's definitely easier to find a median key than a mean one.
2014-03-23 08204, 2014
xplat
Freso: why wouldn't you arrange them D, D, D, D, D, Bb, Bb, Bb, Bb, Bb, C?
2014-03-23 08227, 2014
Freso
xplat: Because that's not how sort() would place them. :)
2014-03-23 08259, 2014
xplat
so when they changed H to B all the median keys would change?
2014-03-23 08225, 2014
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2014-03-23 08227, 2014
Freso
They never changed that where I'm from.
2014-03-23 08234, 2014
CallerNo6 now wonders if ICU collate handles sharps and flats
2014-03-23 08240, 2014
xplat
oh, you still have H?
2014-03-23 08202, 2014
Freso
Ugh. A lot of keys are missing from the work attribute keys. :/
2014-03-23 08224, 2014
Freso
xplat: Yeah. I think all/most of Scandinavia still operates with H.
2014-03-23 08251, 2014
xplat
so ... median keys depend on locale ...
2014-03-23 08258, 2014
xplat
lol
2014-03-23 08203, 2014
Freso
xplat: Anyway, it should probably be sorted the same way MB sorts, so "C, D*5, Bb*5".
2014-03-23 08221, 2014
reosarevok
Freso: they are?
2014-03-23 08240, 2014
reosarevok
I mean, a lot of "theoretical" keys are missing, but IIRC we even have a couple that are basically never used
2014-03-23 08245, 2014
Freso
(If I had intended that query to be useful, I would not have made it against JB.)
2014-03-23 08200, 2014
Freso
reosarevok: What's a "theoretical" key?
2014-03-23 08202, 2014
xplat
what keys are missing?
2014-03-23 08230, 2014
xplat
the key of J
2014-03-23 08245, 2014
drsaunders
Life
2014-03-23 08247, 2014
xplat
the key of Higgs boson
2014-03-23 08252, 2014
drsaunders
if you're a stevie wonder fan
2014-03-23 08214, 2014
Freso
Ionic, doric, frygian, lydian, mixolydian, ...
2014-03-23 08239, 2014
xplat
the key of A flat major general
2014-03-23 08250, 2014
reosarevok
Ok, yes, we only have the standard scale
2014-03-23 08259, 2014
Freso
:|
2014-03-23 08216, 2014
xplat
hm, a lot of stuff doesn't use the standard scale even these days
2014-03-23 08234, 2014
drsaunders
does the skeleton key count for all keys?
2014-03-23 08245, 2014
reosarevok
Most of that stuff doesn't really indicate a key anywhere on easily-accessed stuff though
2014-03-23 08253, 2014
xplat
pentatonic, chromatic, abusing the heck out of the whammy bar ...
2014-03-23 08200, 2014
Freso
It's fairly common for trad. to use esp. mixolydian scales.
2014-03-23 08212, 2014
reosarevok
I think I mentioned that before, but the idea of this was basically having a place to store keys for classical work which have "in key X" on their titles :p
2014-03-23 08224, 2014
reosarevok
Since those are the only ones where there's an obvious source of the info
2014-03-23 08228, 2014
reosarevok
So that's what we shipped with
2014-03-23 08237, 2014
reosarevok
Now, if people want other keys, well, by all means ask for them!
