hmm... can't remember if it was broadcasted in HD or not -___-;
2014-03-24 08346, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the shows that were done digitially but predate HD are kinda annoying
2014-03-24 08354, 2014
kepstin-laptop
no real way to e.g. rescan them to get a good upconvert
2014-03-24 08306, 2014
hawke
Sometimes they can rerender them though.
2014-03-24 08354, 2014
Nyanko-sensei
they had to redraw a good chunk of one piece for the HD re-broadcast
2014-03-24 08314, 2014
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2014-03-24 08319, 2014
jesus2099
luks: hellu, are you here now ? i have an acoustid issue :)
2014-03-24 08335, 2014
Freso
jesus2099: Just write the issue then...
2014-03-24 08343, 2014
Freso
He'll see it when he's arond.
2014-03-24 08346, 2014
Freso
*around
2014-03-24 08357, 2014
jesus2099
ok cool :)
2014-03-24 08332, 2014
jesus2099
(i thought i was the only one like that)
2014-03-24 08330, 2014
jesus2099
hi Freso :)
2014-03-24 08307, 2014
jesus2099 collecting data…
2014-03-24 08326, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the serial experiments lain one was neat, they included a booklet with an episode-by-episode discussion of the restoration process
2014-03-24 08341, 2014
jesus2099
restoration ?
2014-03-24 08348, 2014
kepstin-laptop
for the blu-ray release
2014-03-24 08358, 2014
jesus2099
upsacling then ? :)
2014-03-24 08303, 2014
kepstin-laptop
they rescanned the film, upscanned or redid the digital
2014-03-24 08309, 2014
jesus2099
restoration seems like it comes from old films with lots of scratches
2014-03-24 08316, 2014
kepstin-laptop
recomposited a lot of cuts, sometimes with newly drawn mattes
2014-03-24 08352, 2014
kepstin-laptop
lain was actually kinda lucky, it was just old enough that most of the show was recorded on film
2014-03-24 08352, 2014
jesus2099
luks wherever you are : the following “track” https://acoustid.org/track/ed43b283-b5fc-42fb-a1e… i have ear checked it on my CD it“s ”TIN MAN“. this “track” contains many “fingerprints” that aez very different… maybe htat explains the several mismatched MB recordings……
2014-03-24 08304, 2014
jesus2099
is there a way to know which fingerprint is our current sound file ?
enough differences that it could sound somewhat different, but it's the same song at least
2014-03-24 08359, 2014
jesus2099
it’s not very intuitive as both compared stuff are black, when overlapping i didn’t understaood it should fill the white in black… (._.?)
2014-03-24 08307, 2014
hawke
And the start is chopped off from one of them.
2014-03-24 08332, 2014
jesus2099
thanks :)
2014-03-24 08333, 2014
kepstin-laptop
jesus2099: the comparison is just an XOR, so it makes perfect sense.
2014-03-24 08346, 2014
jesus2099
… for who ?
2014-03-24 08347, 2014
jesus2099
;)
2014-03-24 08302, 2014
jesus2099
i mean there’s no such explanation over there :)
2014-03-24 08312, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the idea is that you want to know if either both tracks have white or if both tracks have black in the same spot
2014-03-24 08320, 2014
kepstin-laptop
and that calculation is what the XOR operation does
2014-03-24 08325, 2014
Freso
kepstin-laptop: I thought it was more white == better match until someone told me otherwise.
2014-03-24 08332, 2014
kepstin-laptop
it returns 1 if the two are different, and 0 if they're the same
2014-03-24 08337, 2014
kepstin-laptop
and 0 is black, 1 is white
2014-03-24 08303, 2014
jesus2099
transparancy, blending of two colours would be more intuitive for guys like me ;)
2014-03-24 08305, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I mean, it would be trivial to use whatever colours you like
2014-03-24 08328, 2014
kepstin-laptop
transparence isn't correct, because black+white and white+black are bad, and white+white and black+black are good
2014-03-24 08337, 2014
jesus2099
i said colours ;p
2014-03-24 08306, 2014
kepstin-laptop
it could use green+red, aside from that not working for colour-blind people ;)
2014-03-24 08319, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the colours are irrelevant really, it could be any two colours
2014-03-24 08321, 2014
Freso
kepstin-laptop: The point is though, there's nothing on the compare page to tell how to use the comparison. If you don't know that white is bad and black is good, or that it's an XOR comparison happening... how are you supposed to know?
2014-03-24 08338, 2014
hawke
yellow and blue make green seal!
2014-03-24 08342, 2014
kepstin-laptop
Freso: you ask in the musicbrainz channel, and someone explains it to you
2014-03-24 08345, 2014
hawke
lol
2014-03-24 08351, 2014
kepstin-laptop
hawke: only two colours.
2014-03-24 08355, 2014
kepstin-laptop
there's no third colour
2014-03-24 08310, 2014
kepstin-laptop
what is that, "wrong", "right" and "I don't even"?
kepstin-laptop: did you land on that page first time and immediately understood that “it’s a XOR compare.” without luks explaining ? if so, you’re a truly computer god !
2014-03-24 08320, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I figured it out pretty quick after using offset adjustment on some acoustids that I knew were basically the same
2014-03-24 08333, 2014
kepstin-laptop
then I looked at the code and saw "hey, it is literally just using xor"
2014-03-24 08339, 2014
jesus2099
you’re what i said : a KUMPUTER GOD !
2014-03-24 08356, 2014
jesus2099
ah ok…
2014-03-24 08304, 2014
jesus2099
you’re not, you watched the code, cheating ! :)
2014-03-24 08323, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the only way to become a true computer god is to cheat your way there
2014-03-24 08325, 2014
jesus2099
Freso: should’t this explain appear right on the compare page directly ? is there a bug tracker ?
ladys and gentlemen, i will be using the TOC + Release Duplicates tab for the first time since it is supposed to be fixced (not vanish yur TOC anylmore)
2014-03-24 08332, 2014
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2014-03-24 08344, 2014
jesus2099
…uh oh.
2014-03-24 08305, 2014
kepstin-laptop
jesus2099: hmm? if you're adding a new release via toc lookup, that was never fixed
2014-03-24 08328, 2014
jesus2099
yeah it seemed so indeed :)
2014-03-24 08332, 2014
jesus2099
i thought it was fixed
2014-03-24 08320, 2014
jesus2099
i thought i was too shy to try…
2014-03-24 08326, 2014
chirlu`
Some things have been fixed, what is this bug?
2014-03-24 08355, 2014
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2014-03-24 08342, 2014
kepstin-laptop
chirlu`: if you use picard, do a cd lookup, don't find the release so add a new one, then select an existing tracklist to reuse, it looses the disc id
2014-03-24 08347, 2014
kepstin-laptop
loses*
2014-03-24 08348, 2014
jesus2099
when you submit a CD TOC and you create a new release, you can’t use the Existing releases tab, if you do so because you don’t want to type all tracks and then link them all to recordings one by one… you loose TOC in punition to your lazyness !
2014-03-24 08310, 2014
chirlu`
Ah yes, but there is a fix for that.
2014-03-24 08310, 2014
kepstin-laptop
then you have to redo the lookup a second time and find the release you just added to actually associate the disc id
New post: blog: More details for our 2014-05-15 schema change release <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2014/03/24/more-details-for-our-2014-05-15-schema-change-release/>
2014-03-24 08341, 2014
kepstin-laptop
chirlu`: huh? what's that? it looks unrelated
2014-03-24 08308, 2014
chirlu`
That’s the bug I thought you meant. :-)
2014-03-24 08320, 2014
chirlu`
Do you have a ticket for your issue?
2014-03-24 08349, 2014
kepstin-laptop
this issue specifically affects that the disc id simply disappears completely from the release editor when you select an existing tracklist to reuse
2014-03-24 08322, 2014
kepstin-laptop checks his voted issues list
2014-03-24 08330, 2014
kepstin-laptop
or to be specific, the issue is that selecting an existing tracklist overrides the seeded media data, including the disc id
2014-03-24 08309, 2014
jesus2099
we have lost milliseconds support on recordings too… but i guess we don’t care since recordings lengths will soon completely disappear :)
2014-03-24 08330, 2014
hawke
We had milliseconds support on recordings?
2014-03-24 08344, 2014
jesus2099
yes :)
2014-03-24 08349, 2014
hawke
Hmm, never noticed. :-D
2014-03-24 08349, 2014
jesus2099
i showed them with a user script
2014-03-24 08327, 2014
jesus2099
they still show up but we cannot set them any more through APPLY TOC times to release then check the apply changes track→recordings
2014-03-24 08347, 2014
kepstin-laptop
huh, I can't actually find a ticket for this issue
2014-03-24 08347, 2014
jesus2099
this last edit since new release editor only takes minutes and seconds
