Do you have any workflow suggestions for tagging in bulk? Right now I'm tagging one artist at a time so I more easily correct common mistakes, but this is going to take awhile.
2014-08-25 23718, 2014
derwin
DarkLinkXXXX: I'm not sure what you're asking
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derwin
it depends on what you're tagging, too.
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DarkLinkXXXX
A large collection of music, much of which I have no familiarity with.
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Freso
DarkLinkXXXX: You could use beets, I guess.
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KillDaBOB
darklinkxxx: one artist at a time is the way to go when first tagging a large collection. like you said, it cuts down on mistakes.
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KillDaBOB
once you’ve been through it once, things are a hell of a lot easier and faster in the future.
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jesus2099
Lotheric_: did you find the ISRC user scripts ?
2014-08-25 23726, 2014
jesus2099
it’s actually a page by nikki
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jesus2099
and a user script to allow that page to understand full release copy/paste bunch of ISRC
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LordSputnik
chirlu`: I undid the edit on the summit page where you added CB to the list of consumer oriented sites - it's quite a different concept to MBo and mbjs and I can't see us talking much about it in that discussion
2014-08-25 23707, 2014
LordSputnik
feel free to add it somewhere else if you'd like to talk about it though :)
2014-08-25 23748, 2014
reosarevok
LordSputnik: I'm not sure it's thought of much differently though
2014-08-25 23706, 2014
reosarevok
Part of the current view seems to be "a place where people can access a MB-lite and review things"
2014-08-25 23757, 2014
LordSputnik
really?
2014-08-25 23720, 2014
LordSputnik
I thought it was just a place for showing releases and storing reviews
2014-08-25 23745, 2014
reosarevok
Well, basically, having *three* sites sounds confusing as hell
2014-08-25 23755, 2014
reosarevok
Which is I think why some people were thinking of it as such
2014-08-25 23757, 2014
reosarevok
But dunno
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reosarevok
I have no particular opinion on the matter
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LordSputnik
well maybe that could be part of the discussion, I'll add it back in
2014-08-25 23752, 2014
LordSputnik
chirlu`: ADDED IT BACK IN, APOLOGIES ;)
2014-08-25 23756, 2014
LordSputnik
woah caps
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luks
reviews are very user-oriented feature, so it kind of makes sense
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Freso|koume
In case Ben/LordSputnik reads backlog ever, ruaok, Roman, and I did talk briefly about looking into merging the existing MBo code into CB.
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Really simple question: I haven't added to MB in a long time, and even reading the docs, I cannot figure out how to add the ASIN link (for cover art) using the new interface for a release that I just added
2014-08-25 23728, 2014
hawke1
'edit release' and then paste the URL in links on the first tab of the release editor
2014-08-25 23747, 2014
hawke1
(And then upload the cover art to the cover art archive instead of using Amazon artwork directly. ;-)
2014-08-25 23735, 2014
KillDaBOB
or find better artwork than what Amazon has. they frequently have crap artwork.
2014-08-25 23710, 2014
KillDaBOB
it’s a rare case where Amazon has the best artwork one can find.
2014-08-25 23746, 2014
rjbell4
Thanks
2014-08-25 23754, 2014
CallerNo6 can't remember what the argument for expanding "vol." is
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hawke1
Because it’s inconsistent among releases
2014-08-25 23712, 2014
hawke1
So you’ll have “vol. 1”, “Volume 2”, “vol. III”
2014-08-25 23742, 2014
drsaunde
often its inconsistent within the same release also
2014-08-25 23710, 2014
hawke1
If you expand them so they’re consistent, you could in theory parse the volume number from the title. In practice, nobody would ever bother and our data is fairly inconsistent about that so it’s not particularly helpful.
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CallerNo6 reads the abbreviation style rationale
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CallerNo6
"we should make entries as unambiguous as possible for easy manipulation at a later date" supports the machine-readable theory. meh.
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CallerNo6
if we have (ideally) the series number, release language and cover art stored, what's the ambiguity?
2014-08-25 23713, 2014
CallerNo6
I do understand why people would want to present series in a consistent way, at least within a particular series.
2014-08-25 23730, 2014
CallerNo6
but kudos to abbreviation style for having a rationale!
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hawke1
:-)
2014-08-25 23700, 2014
hawke1
I don’t think I agree with that rationale, because in practice no one will ever do that, and any attempt to do so would break as much as it fixed.
2014-08-25 23709, 2014
CallerNo6
agreed
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CallerNo6
(that might apply to a lot of CSG too)
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CallerNo6
(at least, historically)
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hawke1
Yep.
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CallerNo6
is "feat." also primarily about machine readability?
2014-08-25 23722, 2014
hawke1
I feel like it’s basically a waste of time trying to get that stuff machine-readable, because unless you’re doing it already no one will notice that it doesn’t work properly or won’t work for the use-case you never actually planned for.
2014-08-25 23731, 2014
hawke1
But maybe there have been times in the past where it’s been useful?
2014-08-25 23701, 2014
hawke1
I’m not sure, but I assume so. Perhaps more about picking one and sticking to it since labels are consistently-inconsistent about "feat."
2014-08-25 23718, 2014
CallerNo6
I guess in general I can see the logic in treating some words as more than strings.
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CallerNo6
If I'm going to take the position that "artist intent" is a rare thing, then I should also take the position that every guideline that overrides "as on cover" should have a solid rationale.
2014-08-25 23701, 2014
warp
I think it's more about having some consistency in the data (and thereby some consistency in your music library or whatever else you use MB for), not machine-readability.
2014-08-25 23719, 2014
CallerNo6
warp, so more about presentation?
2014-08-25 23721, 2014
warp
CallerNo6: I think many of these guidelines have been around for a loooooooong time. when musicbrainz started you had freedb with their "Something (disc 1)" and "SOMETHING [DISC 2]", and the goal with MB was to avoid that shitshow.
2014-08-25 23752, 2014
CallerNo6
my dream cotm would be "add rationales to all style guidelines" :-)
2014-08-25 23714, 2014
warp
CallerNo6: did you ever see the old 1-page style guidelines? they're before my time, but someone (maybe nikki or ruaok) unearthed them when restructuring the guidelines for NGS.
2014-08-25 23743, 2014
CallerNo6
I think I may have, when oldwiki was still exposed.
2014-08-25 23729, 2014
CallerNo6
my other dream is to do a super-fancy-transcluded single page style guide :-)
