#musicbrainz

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      • CatQuest
        and damn, i should go to bed since i start studying next week and I want to like.. nt be a wreck :(
      • 2013-08-15 22737, 2013

      • hawke_1
        derwin: FTL was easy and not really a roguelike in most ways
      • 2013-08-15 22745, 2013

      • CatQuest
        simukis_: :DDD
      • 2013-08-15 22753, 2013

      • CatQuest
        we have very little drma really
      • 2013-08-15 22758, 2013

      • CatQuest
        ever isnce i grew up atleast :P
      • 2013-08-15 22735, 2013

      • CatQuest
        don't all just rush to say "noo catcat that's not true" ô_o
      • 2013-08-15 22746, 2013

      • CatQuest
        :p
      • 2013-08-15 22705, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I haven't known you that long. :-P
      • 2013-08-15 22707, 2013

      • CatQuest
        the only roughlikes i m any good at is pokemon mystery dungeon
      • 2013-08-15 22718, 2013

      • CatQuest
        and the last one is tricky and harder (atleast for me)
      • 2013-08-15 22725, 2013

      • CatQuest
        i like ,died serveral times
      • 2013-08-15 22741, 2013

      • derwin
        hawke_1: I did not really find it "easy" at first, mostly because I had to infer what is meaningful, which is pretty roguelike, lol :/
      • 2013-08-15 22745, 2013

      • CatQuest
        but it's 3d and sooo cute :D
      • 2013-08-15 22708, 2013

      • Leftmost needs someone to practice German on.
      • 2013-08-15 22725, 2013

      • CatQuest
        speaking of nothing in particular, are you not comming to sumit leftmost?
      • 2013-08-15 22727, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        Leftmost: you should come to the summit, clearly :P
      • 2013-08-15 22739, 2013

      • CatQuest highfives ianmcorvidae
      • 2013-08-15 22745, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        Leftmost: (though I suspect there might be something about the cost of plane tickets behind that :P)
      • 2013-08-15 22705, 2013

      • nikki
        Leftmost: I still want an mb channel for using german in :P
      • 2013-08-15 22717, 2013

      • CatQuest
        #MusicBrainz-deutsch?
      • 2013-08-15 22731, 2013

      • Mineo
        more like #musicbrainz-weltherrschaft :P
      • 2013-08-15 22734, 2013

      • Leftmost
        There's really no way for me to afford transportation to the summit this year.
      • 2013-08-15 22735, 2013

      • nikki
        haha
      • 2013-08-15 22742, 2013

      • CatQuest
        nikki: would germanic be acceptible? :P
      • 2013-08-15 22756, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Would have loved to come.
      • 2013-08-15 22704, 2013

      • CatQuest
        aww
      • 2013-08-15 22704, 2013

      • nikki
        well I did join #musicbrainz-de last time I mentioned it to see if anyone else would XD
      • 2013-08-15 22734, 2013

      • nikki
        world domination or something
      • 2013-08-15 22739, 2013

      • Mineo
        yes
      • 2013-08-15 22741, 2013

      • Mineo
        exactly
      • 2013-08-15 22759, 2013

      • CatQuest
        o_O
      • 2013-08-15 22741, 2013

      • CatQuest wishes he had good money so he could help out Leftmost and Freso with tickets :/
      • 2013-08-15 22751, 2013

      • CatQuest
        i could spit in like 2-300 nok but
      • 2013-08-15 22754, 2013

      • kepstin-work has already spend his budget and then a bit; overseas tickets are expensive :(
      • 2013-08-15 22759, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I feel like our north-american folks are pretty scattered too, so it's not like we could do a second summit or something like that
      • 2013-08-15 22712, 2013

      • CatQuest
        :(
      • 2013-08-15 22731, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        well, I guess we have a bit of a cluster around the great lakes
      • 2013-08-15 22733, 2013

      • CatQuest
        ianmcorvidae: but atleast it would be a lot more chep to travel withing the same country
      • 2013-08-15 22753, 2013

      • Leftmost
        It's still pretty expensive to travel within the US.
      • 2013-08-15 22755, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        CatQuest: wouldn't be the same country, we're fairly evenly split canada vs. US
      • 2013-08-15 22702, 2013

      • CatQuest
        :/
      • 2013-08-15 22707, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        and, yeah
      • 2013-08-15 22715, 2013

      • Leftmost
        No Ryanair equivalent here.
      • 2013-08-15 22717, 2013

      • CatQuest
        same continent
      • 2013-08-15 22727, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        travelling within the same province/state is closer to what you folks in europe have ;)
      • 2013-08-15 22730, 2013

      • CatQuest
        it's cheqaper to go to sweden than northameria for me
      • 2013-08-15 22751, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        though something like chicago I think might work okayish if we wanted to try
      • 2013-08-15 22754, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        (and even then we suck, since you're usually stuck with driving or taking a bus)
      • 2013-08-15 22754, 2013

      • CatQuest
        kepstin-work: not really. you require no passport
      • 2013-08-15 22700, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I can get the train to Chicago. :-D
      • 2013-08-15 22709, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I've done it before.
      • 2013-08-15 22715, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        getting CallerNo6/derwin there would be the challenge
      • 2013-08-15 22722, 2013

      • kepstin-work has flied to chicago several times, but should check alternate transport too :)
      • 2013-08-15 22732, 2013

      • CatQuest
        and i prefer buss or other land motion, i mean, no airoplane nonsense
      • 2013-08-15 22734, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I'd probably just get a plane ticket, but southwest is pretty good from here to chicago
      • 2013-08-15 22752, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        chicago is a single jet from here, several carriers run direct flights since chicago is a hub.
      • 2013-08-15 22702, 2013

      • hawke_1
        What are the new Picard release icons? the star+gold record = 'changed and all tracks' right?
      • 2013-08-15 22709, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        CatQuest: trains in north america aren't uniformly very good, admittedly :/ buses somewhat work, but that only works for short distances
      • 2013-08-15 22710, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Absolutely nothing out of my town is cheap, and even fewer things are direct flights. But train tickets are pretty cheap and I like traveling by train better anyhow.
      • 2013-08-15 22725, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: star is equivalent to the asterisk later on in the display
      • 2013-08-15 22733, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: there's some sort of 'error' color
      • 2013-08-15 22734, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: otherwise all the colors/etc. mean exactly what they used to
      • 2013-08-15 22736, 2013

      • CatQuest
        oh man i wish train tickets where echearp, i love trains
      • 2013-08-15 22753, 2013

      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: trying to figure out why one release I have is different…screenshot forthcoming
      • 2013-08-15 22758, 2013

      • kepstin-work wishes trains in north america didn't suck
      • 2013-08-15 22701, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I'm taking a lot of trains next month :P
      • 2013-08-15 22717, 2013

      • hawke_1
        +1 kepstin-work
      • 2013-08-15 22722, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        canada in particular has not a single high-speed train line.
      • 2013-08-15 22727, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        last year I deliberately flew to a further airport from london so I could be on the train longer :P
      • 2013-08-15 22730, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Trains here have poor coverage and take quite a while, but I like not being harassed by security and I prefer the peace of a slow train journey to a mad dash through airports.
      • 2013-08-15 22735, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: oh, yeah, I forget where you are
      • 2013-08-15 22740, 2013

      • CatQuest
        next month, i ma bussing, flying, and probably train--ing?
      • 2013-08-15 22743, 2013

      • CatQuest
        cause summit
      • 2013-08-15 22754, 2013

      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: Wisconsin
      • 2013-08-15 22700, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        not that this "north american secondary-summit" idea is probably that viable though :P
      • 2013-08-15 22711, 2013

      • kepstin-work notes that several north american cities have perfectly good public transit train systems
      • 2013-08-15 22712, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Two hour drive north to get to the nearest train station, then a thirty hour ride to Chicago, and I'd still much prefer it to air travel.
      • 2013-08-15 22713, 2013

      • CatQuest
        Leftmost: ?!
      • 2013-08-15 22713, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, so that supports the "near the great lakes" idea further
      • 2013-08-15 22714, 2013

      • CatQuest
        nei
      • 2013-08-15 22717, 2013

      • CatQuest
        Leftmost: +!
      • 2013-08-15 22721, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        haha
      • 2013-08-15 22739, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        southwest I can do a direct flight here to chicago
      • 2013-08-15 22745, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        and southwest actually has free baggage
      • 2013-08-15 22751, 2013

      • CatQuest
        [22:34] <Leftmost> Trains here have poor coverage and take quite a while, but I like not being harassed by security and I prefer the peace of a slow train journey to a mad dash through airports. <-- THIS
      • 2013-08-15 22700, 2013

      • CatQuest
        if only they didn't cost 4 times as much :/
      • 2013-08-15 22713, 2013

      • CatQuest
        I don't know ian, it sound sliek it's being planned to me
      • 2013-08-15 22715, 2013

      • Leftmost
        ianmcorvidae, no Southwest service here.
      • 2013-08-15 22719, 2013

      • hawke_1
        http://imagebin.org/267730 — “Super Panda Adventures” has all tracks and pending changes…shouldn’t it be gold+star?
      • 2013-08-15 22737, 2013

      • CatQuest
        anyway natta all
      • 2013-08-15 22741, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Major airports with direct flights from here are Seattle, Denver, Salt Lake City, and Minneapolis.
      • 2013-08-15 22752, 2013

      • CatQuest
        all my psudonym homies YA
      • 2013-08-15 22759, 2013

      • hawke_1
        night, CatCat
      • 2013-08-15 22710, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Night, Cat.
      • 2013-08-15 22727, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        (I mean, they're still almost $200, but that's not *too* bad)
      • 2013-08-15 22737, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Given the choice I would much rather go to Minneapolis than Chicago. :-)
      • 2013-08-15 22742, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Much nicer city
      • 2013-08-15 22750, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Jesus. I can't get anywhere for $200 from here. :-P
      • 2013-08-15 22701, 2013

      • kepstin-work was just in chigago for the us ignite summit, so somewhere else would be cool :)
      • 2013-08-15 22726, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae sees what MSP would cost for me/the californians
      • 2013-08-15 22736, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        for this random date I chose :P
      • 2013-08-15 22739, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        slightly more, on the order of $40 extra
      • 2013-08-15 22746, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        but that's still not bad
      • 2013-08-15 22726, 2013

      • kepstin-work wouldn't mind visiting california... ;)
      • 2013-08-15 22755, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        haha
      • 2013-08-15 22716, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I was trying to optimize for cost for the most people, I guess
      • 2013-08-15 22709, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        we should go to sf, see if archive.org will host :)
      • 2013-08-15 22721, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hah
      • 2013-08-15 22730, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        they probably would
      • 2013-08-15 22732, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        that'd make it easy for derwin and CallerNo6 :P
      • 2013-08-15 22707, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        dunno in terms of places to sleep, I guess, but
      • 2013-08-15 22754, 2013

      • Leftmost
        It's about $500 to fly to Minneapolis at a random time in October, and more for Chicago. Same dates on the train, $161.
      • 2013-08-15 22721, 2013

      • Leftmost
        $6 more to get to Chicago.
      • 2013-08-15 22726, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        crazy
      • 2013-08-15 22740, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I guess for non-southwest flights that's about the same for me
      • 2013-08-15 22747, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        on the other hand, the train journey probably takes a fair bit longer
      • 2013-08-15 22750, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        being near a *slightly* larger airport probably helps though
      • 2013-08-15 22700, 2013

      • Leftmost
        kepstin-work, it does, but I own books.
      • 2013-08-15 22712, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        kepstin-work: I think he was saying 30 hours, yes :P
      • 2013-08-15 22728, 2013

      • Leftmost
        They also don't care if I bring food on the train.
      • 2013-08-15 22731, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        if it means taking extra days off work, could come out closer to even.
      • 2013-08-15 22754, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Well, part of the issue I have with getting to the summit is not having a job. So, you know, no trouble there.
      • 2013-08-15 22705, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        lol
      • 2013-08-15 22714, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        ... well, I guess you're taking the train then :)
      • 2013-08-15 22730, 2013

      • Leftmost
        And the job I'm most hoping to get right now is remote anyhow.
      • 2013-08-15 22739, 2013

      • kepstin-work wonders whether it's even possible to book an economy class boat trip across the atlantic any more.
      • 2013-08-15 22745, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I'd have to tether, and I'd lose service sometimes, but that's not a big deal.
      • 2013-08-15 22737, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hah
      • 2013-08-15 22738, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        you'd have to leave now to make it to the summit :P
      • 2013-08-15 22709, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Not sure trains go underwater anyhow.
      • 2013-08-15 22711, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        (via boat, I mean :P)
      • 2013-08-15 22745, 2013

      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: Any thoughts on that Picard screenshot?
      • 2013-08-15 22749, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        well, I haven't heard of any transatlantic tunnels, so :P
      • 2013-08-15 22705, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: oh, uh, I missed it, lemme scroll up
      • 2013-08-15 22725, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: that's the error color
      • 2013-08-15 22728, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        that disc icon is slightly red tinted
      • 2013-08-15 22729, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        not sure what the error is, but
      • 2013-08-15 22738, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        should be made more obviously not silver, imo.
      • 2013-08-15 22753, 2013

      • hawke_1
        I’d have said orange, yeah.
      • 2013-08-15 22712, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        orange is too similar to gold, imo
      • 2013-08-15 22718, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        anyway, hawke_1, I think you can open up the 'info' screen for the release and there's a log now? which might tell you what's up
      • 2013-08-15 22719, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        make it obvious :)
      • 2013-08-15 22737, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        but that's the error icon, anyway
      • 2013-08-15 22739, 2013

      • hawke_1
        It probably doesn’t help that the default theme in Ubuntu is orange…so orange is kinda “normal”
      • 2013-08-15 22718, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Ah…apparently it’s a 404 on the cover art…
      • 2013-08-15 22732, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I mean, if we really want to make it obvious we should throw out the disc and make it http://thenounproject.com/noun/warning/#icon-No16… or something
      • 2013-08-15 22727, 2013

      • Leftmost secretly undertakes to put a pygtk interface on picard.
      • 2013-08-15 22745, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        is the pending load icon still a disc?
      • 2013-08-15 22752, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        collect ALL the interface toolkits
      • 2013-08-15 22707, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        (given picard was wxwidgets before it was Qt :P)