and damn, i should go to bed since i start studying next week and I want to like.. nt be a wreck :(
2013-08-15 22737, 2013
hawke_1
derwin: FTL was easy and not really a roguelike in most ways
2013-08-15 22745, 2013
CatQuest
simukis_: :DDD
2013-08-15 22753, 2013
CatQuest
we have very little drma really
2013-08-15 22758, 2013
CatQuest
ever isnce i grew up atleast :P
2013-08-15 22735, 2013
CatQuest
don't all just rush to say "noo catcat that's not true" ô_o
2013-08-15 22746, 2013
CatQuest
:p
2013-08-15 22705, 2013
Leftmost
I haven't known you that long. :-P
2013-08-15 22707, 2013
CatQuest
the only roughlikes i m any good at is pokemon mystery dungeon
2013-08-15 22718, 2013
CatQuest
and the last one is tricky and harder (atleast for me)
2013-08-15 22725, 2013
CatQuest
i like ,died serveral times
2013-08-15 22741, 2013
derwin
hawke_1: I did not really find it "easy" at first, mostly because I had to infer what is meaningful, which is pretty roguelike, lol :/
2013-08-15 22745, 2013
CatQuest
but it's 3d and sooo cute :D
2013-08-15 22708, 2013
Leftmost needs someone to practice German on.
2013-08-15 22725, 2013
CatQuest
speaking of nothing in particular, are you not comming to sumit leftmost?
2013-08-15 22727, 2013
ianmcorvidae
Leftmost: you should come to the summit, clearly :P
2013-08-15 22739, 2013
CatQuest highfives ianmcorvidae
2013-08-15 22745, 2013
ianmcorvidae
Leftmost: (though I suspect there might be something about the cost of plane tickets behind that :P)
2013-08-15 22705, 2013
nikki
Leftmost: I still want an mb channel for using german in :P
2013-08-15 22717, 2013
CatQuest
#MusicBrainz-deutsch?
2013-08-15 22731, 2013
Mineo
more like #musicbrainz-weltherrschaft :P
2013-08-15 22734, 2013
Leftmost
There's really no way for me to afford transportation to the summit this year.
2013-08-15 22735, 2013
nikki
haha
2013-08-15 22742, 2013
CatQuest
nikki: would germanic be acceptible? :P
2013-08-15 22756, 2013
Leftmost
Would have loved to come.
2013-08-15 22704, 2013
CatQuest
aww
2013-08-15 22704, 2013
nikki
well I did join #musicbrainz-de last time I mentioned it to see if anyone else would XD
2013-08-15 22734, 2013
nikki
world domination or something
2013-08-15 22739, 2013
Mineo
yes
2013-08-15 22741, 2013
Mineo
exactly
2013-08-15 22759, 2013
CatQuest
o_O
2013-08-15 22741, 2013
CatQuest wishes he had good money so he could help out Leftmost and Freso with tickets :/
2013-08-15 22751, 2013
CatQuest
i could spit in like 2-300 nok but
2013-08-15 22754, 2013
kepstin-work has already spend his budget and then a bit; overseas tickets are expensive :(
2013-08-15 22759, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I feel like our north-american folks are pretty scattered too, so it's not like we could do a second summit or something like that
2013-08-15 22712, 2013
CatQuest
:(
2013-08-15 22731, 2013
ianmcorvidae
well, I guess we have a bit of a cluster around the great lakes
2013-08-15 22733, 2013
CatQuest
ianmcorvidae: but atleast it would be a lot more chep to travel withing the same country
2013-08-15 22753, 2013
Leftmost
It's still pretty expensive to travel within the US.
2013-08-15 22755, 2013
ianmcorvidae
CatQuest: wouldn't be the same country, we're fairly evenly split canada vs. US
2013-08-15 22702, 2013
CatQuest
:/
2013-08-15 22707, 2013
ianmcorvidae
and, yeah
2013-08-15 22715, 2013
Leftmost
No Ryanair equivalent here.
2013-08-15 22717, 2013
CatQuest
same continent
2013-08-15 22727, 2013
kepstin-work
travelling within the same province/state is closer to what you folks in europe have ;)
2013-08-15 22730, 2013
CatQuest
it's cheqaper to go to sweden than northameria for me
2013-08-15 22751, 2013
ianmcorvidae
though something like chicago I think might work okayish if we wanted to try
2013-08-15 22754, 2013
kepstin-work
(and even then we suck, since you're usually stuck with driving or taking a bus)
2013-08-15 22754, 2013
CatQuest
kepstin-work: not really. you require no passport
2013-08-15 22700, 2013
Leftmost
I can get the train to Chicago. :-D
2013-08-15 22709, 2013
Leftmost
I've done it before.
2013-08-15 22715, 2013
ianmcorvidae
getting CallerNo6/derwin there would be the challenge
2013-08-15 22722, 2013
kepstin-work has flied to chicago several times, but should check alternate transport too :)
2013-08-15 22732, 2013
CatQuest
and i prefer buss or other land motion, i mean, no airoplane nonsense
2013-08-15 22734, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I'd probably just get a plane ticket, but southwest is pretty good from here to chicago
2013-08-15 22752, 2013
kepstin-work
chicago is a single jet from here, several carriers run direct flights since chicago is a hub.
2013-08-15 22702, 2013
hawke_1
What are the new Picard release icons? the star+gold record = 'changed and all tracks' right?
2013-08-15 22709, 2013
ianmcorvidae
CatQuest: trains in north america aren't uniformly very good, admittedly :/ buses somewhat work, but that only works for short distances
2013-08-15 22710, 2013
Leftmost
Absolutely nothing out of my town is cheap, and even fewer things are direct flights. But train tickets are pretty cheap and I like traveling by train better anyhow.
2013-08-15 22725, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hawke_1: star is equivalent to the asterisk later on in the display
2013-08-15 22733, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hawke_1: there's some sort of 'error' color
2013-08-15 22734, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hawke_1: otherwise all the colors/etc. mean exactly what they used to
2013-08-15 22736, 2013
CatQuest
oh man i wish train tickets where echearp, i love trains
2013-08-15 22753, 2013
hawke_1
ianmcorvidae: trying to figure out why one release I have is different…screenshot forthcoming
2013-08-15 22758, 2013
kepstin-work wishes trains in north america didn't suck
2013-08-15 22701, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I'm taking a lot of trains next month :P
2013-08-15 22717, 2013
hawke_1
+1 kepstin-work
2013-08-15 22722, 2013
kepstin-work
canada in particular has not a single high-speed train line.
2013-08-15 22727, 2013
ianmcorvidae
last year I deliberately flew to a further airport from london so I could be on the train longer :P
2013-08-15 22730, 2013
Leftmost
Trains here have poor coverage and take quite a while, but I like not being harassed by security and I prefer the peace of a slow train journey to a mad dash through airports.
2013-08-15 22735, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hawke_1: oh, yeah, I forget where you are
2013-08-15 22740, 2013
CatQuest
next month, i ma bussing, flying, and probably train--ing?
2013-08-15 22743, 2013
CatQuest
cause summit
2013-08-15 22754, 2013
hawke_1
ianmcorvidae: Wisconsin
2013-08-15 22700, 2013
ianmcorvidae
not that this "north american secondary-summit" idea is probably that viable though :P
2013-08-15 22711, 2013
kepstin-work notes that several north american cities have perfectly good public transit train systems
2013-08-15 22712, 2013
Leftmost
Two hour drive north to get to the nearest train station, then a thirty hour ride to Chicago, and I'd still much prefer it to air travel.
2013-08-15 22713, 2013
CatQuest
Leftmost: ?!
2013-08-15 22713, 2013
ianmcorvidae
oh, so that supports the "near the great lakes" idea further
2013-08-15 22714, 2013
CatQuest
nei
2013-08-15 22717, 2013
CatQuest
Leftmost: +!
2013-08-15 22721, 2013
ianmcorvidae
haha
2013-08-15 22739, 2013
ianmcorvidae
southwest I can do a direct flight here to chicago
2013-08-15 22745, 2013
ianmcorvidae
and southwest actually has free baggage
2013-08-15 22751, 2013
CatQuest
[22:34] <Leftmost> Trains here have poor coverage and take quite a while, but I like not being harassed by security and I prefer the peace of a slow train journey to a mad dash through airports. <-- THIS
2013-08-15 22700, 2013
CatQuest
if only they didn't cost 4 times as much :/
2013-08-15 22713, 2013
CatQuest
I don't know ian, it sound sliek it's being planned to me
2013-08-15 22715, 2013
Leftmost
ianmcorvidae, no Southwest service here.
2013-08-15 22719, 2013
hawke_1
http://imagebin.org/267730 — “Super Panda Adventures” has all tracks and pending changes…shouldn’t it be gold+star?
2013-08-15 22737, 2013
CatQuest
anyway natta all
2013-08-15 22741, 2013
Leftmost
Major airports with direct flights from here are Seattle, Denver, Salt Lake City, and Minneapolis.
2013-08-15 22752, 2013
CatQuest
all my psudonym homies YA
2013-08-15 22759, 2013
hawke_1
night, CatCat
2013-08-15 22710, 2013
Leftmost
Night, Cat.
2013-08-15 22727, 2013
ianmcorvidae
(I mean, they're still almost $200, but that's not *too* bad)
2013-08-15 22737, 2013
hawke_1
Given the choice I would much rather go to Minneapolis than Chicago. :-)
2013-08-15 22742, 2013
hawke_1
Much nicer city
2013-08-15 22750, 2013
Leftmost
Jesus. I can't get anywhere for $200 from here. :-P
2013-08-15 22701, 2013
kepstin-work was just in chigago for the us ignite summit, so somewhere else would be cool :)
2013-08-15 22726, 2013
ianmcorvidae sees what MSP would cost for me/the californians
2013-08-15 22736, 2013
ianmcorvidae
for this random date I chose :P
2013-08-15 22739, 2013
ianmcorvidae
slightly more, on the order of $40 extra
2013-08-15 22746, 2013
ianmcorvidae
but that's still not bad
2013-08-15 22726, 2013
kepstin-work wouldn't mind visiting california... ;)
2013-08-15 22755, 2013
ianmcorvidae
haha
2013-08-15 22716, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I was trying to optimize for cost for the most people, I guess
2013-08-15 22709, 2013
kepstin-work
we should go to sf, see if archive.org will host :)
2013-08-15 22721, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hah
2013-08-15 22730, 2013
ianmcorvidae
they probably would
2013-08-15 22732, 2013
ianmcorvidae
that'd make it easy for derwin and CallerNo6 :P
2013-08-15 22707, 2013
ianmcorvidae
dunno in terms of places to sleep, I guess, but
2013-08-15 22754, 2013
Leftmost
It's about $500 to fly to Minneapolis at a random time in October, and more for Chicago. Same dates on the train, $161.
2013-08-15 22721, 2013
Leftmost
$6 more to get to Chicago.
2013-08-15 22726, 2013
ianmcorvidae
crazy
2013-08-15 22740, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I guess for non-southwest flights that's about the same for me
2013-08-15 22747, 2013
kepstin-work
on the other hand, the train journey probably takes a fair bit longer
2013-08-15 22750, 2013
ianmcorvidae
being near a *slightly* larger airport probably helps though
2013-08-15 22700, 2013
Leftmost
kepstin-work, it does, but I own books.
2013-08-15 22712, 2013
ianmcorvidae
kepstin-work: I think he was saying 30 hours, yes :P
2013-08-15 22728, 2013
Leftmost
They also don't care if I bring food on the train.
2013-08-15 22731, 2013
kepstin-work
if it means taking extra days off work, could come out closer to even.
2013-08-15 22754, 2013
Leftmost
Well, part of the issue I have with getting to the summit is not having a job. So, you know, no trouble there.
2013-08-15 22705, 2013
ianmcorvidae
lol
2013-08-15 22714, 2013
kepstin-work
... well, I guess you're taking the train then :)
2013-08-15 22730, 2013
Leftmost
And the job I'm most hoping to get right now is remote anyhow.
2013-08-15 22739, 2013
kepstin-work wonders whether it's even possible to book an economy class boat trip across the atlantic any more.
2013-08-15 22745, 2013
Leftmost
I'd have to tether, and I'd lose service sometimes, but that's not a big deal.
2013-08-15 22737, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hah
2013-08-15 22738, 2013
ianmcorvidae
you'd have to leave now to make it to the summit :P
2013-08-15 22709, 2013
Leftmost
Not sure trains go underwater anyhow.
2013-08-15 22711, 2013
ianmcorvidae
(via boat, I mean :P)
2013-08-15 22745, 2013
hawke_1
ianmcorvidae: Any thoughts on that Picard screenshot?
2013-08-15 22749, 2013
ianmcorvidae
well, I haven't heard of any transatlantic tunnels, so :P
2013-08-15 22705, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hawke_1: oh, uh, I missed it, lemme scroll up
2013-08-15 22725, 2013
ianmcorvidae
hawke_1: that's the error color
2013-08-15 22728, 2013
kepstin-work
that disc icon is slightly red tinted
2013-08-15 22729, 2013
ianmcorvidae
not sure what the error is, but
2013-08-15 22738, 2013
kepstin-work
should be made more obviously not silver, imo.
2013-08-15 22753, 2013
hawke_1
I’d have said orange, yeah.
2013-08-15 22712, 2013
kepstin-work
orange is too similar to gold, imo
2013-08-15 22718, 2013
ianmcorvidae
anyway, hawke_1, I think you can open up the 'info' screen for the release and there's a log now? which might tell you what's up
2013-08-15 22719, 2013
kepstin-work
make it obvious :)
2013-08-15 22737, 2013
ianmcorvidae
but that's the error icon, anyway
2013-08-15 22739, 2013
hawke_1
It probably doesn’t help that the default theme in Ubuntu is orange…so orange is kinda “normal”