flamingspinach: (I only know about finnish artist and what they do)
2013-08-18 23055, 2013
Jozo
Freso: Track images?
2013-08-18 23009, 2013
flamingspinach
reosarevok: exactly
2013-08-18 23018, 2013
flamingspinach
but what if they decide to change it every day for a year?
2013-08-18 23028, 2013
flamingspinach
maybe they have a different version of some song for each day of the year
2013-08-18 23048, 2013
flamingspinach
you say "technically", but what you mean is, "according to mbz's data model"
2013-08-18 23003, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: Now release then :)
2013-08-18 23009, 2013
flamingspinach
what
2013-08-18 23022, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: s/Now/New/
2013-08-18 23028, 2013
flamingspinach
365 releases?
2013-08-18 23045, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: I artist wants it so
2013-08-18 23057, 2013
flamingspinach
that's not what we're actually doing though
2013-08-18 23032, 2013
flamingspinach
sometimes the artist updates the album on bandcamp not to provide something new, but to fix something they considered an error
2013-08-18 23036, 2013
flamingspinach
but we don't actually always agree with that
2013-08-18 23043, 2013
Jozo
If I'm an artist then I may want do something like that
2013-08-18 23001, 2013
Jozo
And next year I'm
2013-08-18 23007, 2013
flamingspinach
if the artist deletes track 13 from an album with 13 tracks, because they didn't mean to put it online, we create a new release, not edit the old one
2013-08-18 23013, 2013
flamingspinach
because someone might have downloaded that track and want to tag it
2013-08-18 23019, 2013
flamingspinach
(and also because that way it's more accurate)
2013-08-18 23041, 2013
Jozo
reosarevok: Do you know more nice tricks to make musicbrainz's people insane?
2013-08-18 23006, 2013
Jozo
reosarevok: I'm thinking of release for every day
2013-08-18 23026, 2013
Freso
Jozo: Yes. Re: typing in SoundCloud tracks as singles vs. stand-alones.
2013-08-18 23029, 2013
Jozo
reosarevok: That's easy do by timed job
2013-08-18 23053, 2013
Jozo
Freso: And feird track names. Mostly unicodes
2013-08-18 23002, 2013
reosarevok
flamingspinach: a different version of a song for every day *definitely* would be 365 releases, yes
2013-08-18 23011, 2013
flamingspinach
Jozo: hash the IP address from which the user downloads an MP3, and embed some truncated version of the hash in the song title in the ID3 tags
2013-08-18 23037, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: Thats good one.
2013-08-18 23007, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: Not hash, but always new song
2013-08-18 23007, 2013
flamingspinach
provide your song download as an executable file which just dumps /etc/passwd to the sound card
2013-08-18 23012, 2013
flamingspinach
(this is hard to do acoustid scan of)
2013-08-18 23030, 2013
flamingspinach
Jozo: no
2013-08-18 23032, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: (I thinking someting that song by picture)
2013-08-18 23033, 2013
flamingspinach
it should be the exact same recording
2013-08-18 23044, 2013
flamingspinach
but with wildly different titles and artist credits
2013-08-18 23045, 2013
Freso
Jozo: ... what? "feird"? And what does unicode have to do with it?
2013-08-18 23023, 2013
Jozo
Freso: You find more character from it
2013-08-18 23034, 2013
flamingspinach
also have a page where you can choose any two numbers between 1 and 1000 and get a zip file containing two songs (determined by the two numbers you chose) and a cover art created by combining the cover art of the two songs in some predictable way
2013-08-18 23045, 2013
flamingspinach
that gives you 1 million releases
2013-08-18 23054, 2013
flamingspinach
or 3 songs for one billion releases
2013-08-18 23007, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: Every downloader get unique song
2013-08-18 23014, 2013
Freso
Jozo: I still don't follow. If I enter the SoundCloud track as a single, I can upload the image to the CAA. I don't have any such option as a stand-alone.
2013-08-18 23035, 2013
Jozo
flamingspinach: But official releases are official and unique
2013-08-18 23053, 2013
flamingspinach
write a script to generate blog posts announcing all the new releases
2013-08-18 23010, 2013
flamingspinach
even 1 billion releases will only take up a few terabytes of disk space to store those blog posts
2013-08-18 23016, 2013
Jozo
Freso: I do not really know about soundcloud...
2013-08-18 23013, 2013
flamingspinach
Freso: I think he meant to talk to reosarevok
2013-08-18 23016, 2013
Jozo
Freso: And always we can't do something what reality need
2013-08-18 23033, 2013
Jozo
Freso: In theory every recording has image
2013-08-18 23040, 2013
flamingspinach
what
2013-08-18 23049, 2013
flamingspinach
why should every recording have an image
2013-08-18 23054, 2013
flamingspinach
what does it even mean for a recording to have an image
2013-08-18 23002, 2013
flamingspinach
I think no recordings should have images
2013-08-18 23008, 2013
Jozo
Freso: soundclound think remind me something like mikseri.net
2013-08-18 23010, 2013
flamingspinach
if you want an image to go with your recording, make it a release
2013-08-18 23032, 2013
flamingspinach
someone please make a greasemonkey script to import soundcloud tracks as single releases :)
2013-08-18 23018, 2013
Jozo
and please make youtube
2013-08-18 23029, 2013
flamingspinach
also someone please make an editing API for musicbrainz!
last I heard we're not going to add an editing api until nes is done
2013-08-18 23018, 2013
nikki
which means maybe in another 10 years, I suppose
2013-08-18 23009, 2013
Jozo
nikki: maybe WE have to think that about againg
2013-08-18 23024, 2013
nikki
well, feel free to try and convince the devs
2013-08-18 23042, 2013
nikki
I was never a fan of making nes a prerequisite for all the improvements we want
2013-08-18 23025, 2013
Freso
+1
2013-08-18 23026, 2013
Jozo
nikki: Any our sponsors do not need it?
2013-08-18 23048, 2013
nikki
"it"?
2013-08-18 23006, 2013
Jozo
nikki: "Possibly to edit things via API"
2013-08-18 23019, 2013
Freso
Plus, making a basic/simple-ish editable for WS/2 now can provide some experience for making a better editable WS/3 once NES has landed.
2013-08-18 23003, 2013
nikki
Freso: my argument has always been that we never get it right first time anyway, so we might as well do it now, but nooo
2013-08-18 23056, 2013
Jozo
nikki: So we do not any paying customer who needs or wants editing possibilities?
2013-08-18 23002, 2013
nikki
not that I know of
2013-08-18 23010, 2013
nikki
and if we did, they would probably be told to implement it themselves
2013-08-18 23024, 2013
nikki
since they have far more development capacity than us
2013-08-18 23058, 2013
Jozo
So we have decide that we want it
2013-08-18 23014, 2013
nikki
we decided a long time ago that we want it
2013-08-18 23021, 2013
nikki
the problem is when
2013-08-18 23030, 2013
nikki
especially given that we only have two developers
2013-08-18 23051, 2013
reosarevok
Well, we also know when we want it! Now! :p
2013-08-18 23057, 2013
reosarevok
When we can get it, though... :p
2013-08-18 23000, 2013
flamingspinach
mbz needs more mOnIeS
2013-08-18 23005, 2013
Jozo
I understant that
2013-08-18 23008, 2013
Jozo
nikki: What's most stopping thing not implementing any editing api?
2013-08-18 23019, 2013
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nikki
the nes dependency
2013-08-18 23034, 2013
nikki
and lack of developers
2013-08-18 23000, 2013
Jozo
nikki: Nes? That's not going happen in year or two
2013-08-18 23020, 2013
Jozo
nikki: lack of developers is good
2013-08-18 23037, 2013
nikki
...
2013-08-18 23042, 2013
nikki
o...k...
2013-08-18 23057, 2013
Jozo
nikki: What if developers power is related to api and web sametime?
2013-08-18 23013, 2013
nikki
I don't understand that question
2013-08-18 23051, 2013
Jozo
nikki: If same men power used to API as currenly to Web thing..
2013-08-18 23044, 2013
Jozo
nikki: I just image... API for edit recording would has same abilities than web has now
2013-08-18 23014, 2013
flamingspinach
fucking soundcloud... I don't want you to start playing some shitty song you think is "related" to the awesome one I was just playing >:O
2013-08-18 23017, 2013
CallerNo6 hates that too. But the ability to /keep/ playing a song while I surf is very cool.
2013-08-18 23029, 2013
nikki
the same developers have to do both the api and the website and everything else, if that's what you mean
2013-08-18 23050, 2013
nikki
which is why everything takes forever
2013-08-18 23004, 2013
Jozo
nikki: (and I only mean) Same power for moving ISRC editing to recording edit would used recoding API
2013-08-18 23023, 2013
nikki
oh
2013-08-18 23040, 2013
nikki
well we haven't got as far as having an api at all, let alone making it able to do everything the website can do
2013-08-18 23056, 2013
nikki
(unless you count submitting puids, isrcs and barcodes)
2013-08-18 23025, 2013
Jozo
nikki: (And that all is my imagenation)
2013-08-18 23025, 2013
reosarevok
flamingspinach: that's terrible, yes
2013-08-18 23002, 2013
nikki
you don't have to make every single thing you say highlight my nick either
2013-08-18 23039, 2013
flamingspinach
I agree, that's pretty annoying
2013-08-18 23022, 2013
flamingspinach
lol jesus2099 thinks we are all PROPHET PRINCE CHAMPIONs
2013-08-18 23038, 2013
culinko
i have also sound to the highlighting :D
2013-08-18 23003, 2013
flamingspinach
to me it's mostly annoying because I have a separate buffer showing all the lines that have highlighted me recently
2013-08-18 23016, 2013
flamingspinach
usually at a glance I can see all the things that people have wanted to talk to me about for the last day or two
2013-08-18 23055, 2013
flamingspinach
but when someone starts beeping me every line it just fills up with the same conversation I'm already seeing in the main window, making it useless
2013-08-18 23024, 2013
Shepard
culinko: beep!
2013-08-18 23028, 2013
culinko
:P
2013-08-18 23033, 2013
nikki
culinko: are ŕ ľ ĺ ô and ä the only characters used in slovak but not czech?
2013-08-18 23050, 2013
nikki is looking at wikipedia, but doesn't know whether to trust it :P
2013-08-18 23057, 2013
culinko
let me see
2013-08-18 23011, 2013
culinko
according to slovak wiki, we use also "dz" and "dž"
2013-08-18 23037, 2013
culinko
and they use ě ř ů (these are only in czech and not in slovak alphabet)
2013-08-18 23043, 2013
culinko
are you editing something?:P
2013-08-18 23056, 2013
nikki
no
2013-08-18 23030, 2013
Shepard
probably just the linguist in her :P
2013-08-18 23056, 2013
culinko
nikki: could i request one query?:)
2013-08-18 23014, 2013
nikki
maybe :P
2013-08-18 23025, 2013
culinko
hah:P
2013-08-18 23039, 2013
nikki
well, you can request it, that doesn't mean I have to do it >:D
2013-08-18 23044, 2013
culinko
not sure if it's possible with only one query, but
2013-08-18 23051, 2013
culinko
i would like to find all artists without area, that are on a releases with slovak artists. also, if slovak artist is credited for release/rg, and there are artists without area on medium/recordings and the other way around
2013-08-18 23016, 2013
culinko
you know, hunting for more slovak artists:P
2013-08-18 23059, 2013
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2013-08-18 23003, 2013
nikki
culinko: by "with" do you mean relationships or artist credits?
2013-08-18 23013, 2013
culinko
AC
2013-08-18 23001, 2013
culinko
but relationships are also good idea, but that'll be classical i bet :P
2013-08-18 23023, 2013
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2013-08-18 23033, 2013
yindesu
I wonder if anyone has strong opinions about Standalone Recordings vs. 1-track Releases?
2013-08-18 23030, 2013
yindesu
what I'd like to do from now, given certain conditions, is to replace single-track digital releases with Standalone Recordings.
