16:40 PM
jesus2099
ah ok I wait 1 minute and then ok
2013-08-09 22127, 2013
16:41 PM
kepstin-work
how are you posting to the list? it might just be a restriction on that interface.
2013-08-09 22127, 2013
16:42 PM
jesus2099
2013-08-09 22152, 2013
16:42 PM
jesus2099
ok done, i have to wait 1 or 2 minute between each post or something like that
2013-08-09 22104, 2013
16:43 PM
kepstin-work
ah, yeah, that restriction is just on nabble because they don't want people to use nabble for spam
2013-08-09 22118, 2013
16:43 PM
kepstin-work
if you sent emails directly, you wouldn't have that problem.
2013-08-09 22115, 2013
16:44 PM
jesus2099
sending e-mails ? oww, come on… ;)
2013-08-09 22115, 2013
16:44 PM
flamingspinach
or through gmane
2013-08-09 22129, 2013
16:44 PM
flamingspinach
gmane is superior to mail-archive and nabble
2013-08-09 22132, 2013
16:44 PM
hawke_1
email is hard, let’s go shopping? :-)
2013-08-09 22133, 2013
16:44 PM
jesus2099
gmane is quite strange stuff i don’t understand it :)
2013-08-09 22146, 2013
16:44 PM
flamingspinach
if you use emacs, you can connect to it from the gnus newsreader
2013-08-09 22150, 2013
16:44 PM
kepstin-work
well, all nabble does is take the stuff you type in, convert it to an email from a fake address, then send it to the list.
2013-08-09 22151, 2013
16:44 PM
jesus2099
uh oh
2013-08-09 22156, 2013
16:44 PM
flamingspinach
or you can use the web interface
2013-08-09 22112, 2013
16:45 PM
flamingspinach
(well, or any other news reader program :P)
2013-08-09 22117, 2013
16:45 PM
hawke_1
Thunderbird! :-D
2013-08-09 22132, 2013
16:45 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: not a fake adress it’s only me setting a fake adress, otherwise you’re supposed to post with your true validated adress
2013-08-09 22152, 2013
16:45 PM
jesus2099
but that’s not jesus2099 friendly
2013-08-09 22115, 2013
16:46 PM
kepstin-work
jesus2099: we don't allow secondary release types to be used only for one primary type.
2013-08-09 22122, 2013
16:46 PM
kepstin-work
just fyi :)
2013-08-09 22152, 2013
16:46 PM
kepstin-work would add "mini-album" either as a new primary type or an alternative name to EP
2013-08-09 22119, 2013
16:47 PM
jesus2099
and when the same artist has both mini album and EP ? (like Galneryus)
2013-08-09 22127, 2013
16:47 PM
jesus2099
IIRC
2013-08-09 22139, 2013
16:47 PM
jesus2099
ah then would add "mini-album" is ok
2013-08-09 22143, 2013
16:47 PM
kepstin-work
and maxi-single is... tricky. it's more of a media description (12cm vs 8cm or 12" vs 7")
2013-08-09 22151, 2013
16:47 PM
jesus2099
indeed
2013-08-09 22100, 2013
16:48 PM
jesus2099
not only
2013-08-09 22106, 2013
16:48 PM
kepstin-work
and we already record the media size :)
2013-08-09 22128, 2013
16:48 PM
jesus2099
in fr when we had singles. they were all on 12cm but we had singles (A or A+B) and maxi sinfgles (more than A+B)
2013-08-09 22133, 2013
16:48 PM
kepstin-work
I would support adding "Mini-Album" as a new primary type, but not as a secondary type.
2013-08-09 22102, 2013
16:49 PM
jesus2099
imo mini albums should be displayed in line with albums, not appart, this is why i prefer sub-type
2013-08-09 22121, 2013
16:49 PM
Lotheric
I would argue that a mini-album is a short album therefore an album
2013-08-09 22122, 2013
16:49 PM
kepstin-work
well, subtypes can be used with any primary type.
2013-08-09 22126, 2013
16:49 PM
jesus2099
(thinking of onmyo-za)
2013-08-09 22141, 2013
16:49 PM
jesus2099
maybe subtypes can be used with any primary type is a limitation that must be got rid of ?
2013-08-09 22142, 2013
16:49 PM
kepstin-work
Lotheric: it really is a separate type of release, imo; particularly in japanese usage.
2013-08-09 22153, 2013
16:49 PM
kepstin-work
jesus2099: no, that's the reason for secondary types
2013-08-09 22157, 2013
16:49 PM
kepstin-work
they aren't subtypes
2013-08-09 22103, 2013
16:50 PM
jesus2099
ah
2013-08-09 22108, 2013
16:50 PM
hawke_1
New image uploader is awesome, btw.
2013-08-09 22118, 2013
16:50 PM
kepstin-work
primary types are for things that are exclusive - something can't be an album and single at the same time
2013-08-09 22120, 2013
16:50 PM
jesus2099
but mini albums i know in jpn are not to be extracted out of the album timeline
2013-08-09 22127, 2013
16:50 PM
kepstin-work
secondary types can be combined with other things.
2013-08-09 22134, 2013
16:50 PM
jesus2099
like Lotheric they are just smaller albums
2013-08-09 22139, 2013
16:50 PM
jesus2099
says
2013-08-09 22150, 2013
16:50 PM
jesus2099
so not different from album, just smallers
2013-08-09 22105, 2013
16:51 PM
Lotheric
but then we have EP that are shorter LP
2013-08-09 22108, 2013
16:51 PM
Lotheric
hehe
2013-08-09 22113, 2013
16:51 PM
jesus2099
but EP are apart from albums
2013-08-09 22117, 2013
16:51 PM
jesus2099
mini albums shouldn’t
2013-08-09 22133, 2013
16:51 PM
jesus2099
EP are like "side projects"
2013-08-09 22143, 2013
16:51 PM
Lotheric
not always
2013-08-09 22144, 2013
16:51 PM
jesus2099
like hors-série (don’t know how to say)
2013-08-09 22135, 2013
16:52 PM
jesus2099
flamingspinach: what is mail-archive ?
2013-08-09 22154, 2013
16:52 PM
kepstin-work
2013-08-09 22159, 2013
16:52 PM
jesus2099
any of opera users here have migrated to the new chromium opera yet ?
2013-08-09 22110, 2013
16:53 PM
kepstin-work
2013-08-09 22151, 2013
16:53 PM
jesus2099
to be honset when i end up on such pages in web searches i usually fear away ;)
2013-08-09 22114, 2013
16:54 PM
jesus2099
but thanks ) :
2013-08-09 22135, 2013
16:54 PM
snartal
ok, my 413 Request Entity Too Large... seems come from to be trying to add a jpg, however it is under the 10mb limit
2013-08-09 22136, 2013
16:54 PM
jesus2099
no chromium opera migrated peoeplK ?
2013-08-09 22158, 2013
16:54 PM
Lotheric has Opera but rarely use it
2013-08-09 22102, 2013
16:55 PM
jesus2099
snartal: 10mb is huge for a bug screenshot
2013-08-09 22103, 2013
16:55 PM
Lotheric
I just updated it
2013-08-09 22116, 2013
16:55 PM
jesus2099
you should be more around 100k something
2013-08-09 22129, 2013
16:55 PM
jesus2099
Lotheric: the superior to v12 ?
2013-08-09 22142, 2013
16:55 PM
jesus2099
v13 or something ?
2013-08-09 22145, 2013
16:55 PM
jesus2099
opera:about
2013-08-09 22108, 2013
16:56 PM
Lotheric
v12.16 it says it's the latest
2013-08-09 22114, 2013
16:56 PM
snartal
My screenshot is 1.25mb.... I was referring to where it says maximum file upload size is 10.00mb
2013-08-09 22118, 2013
16:56 PM
Lotheric
updated from within the program
2013-08-09 22134, 2013
16:56 PM
jesus2099
ah ok so you’re still in "normal" opera, like me… the nexrt one is so different they don’t force it with the inline updater
2013-08-09 22105, 2013
16:57 PM
jesus2099
it’s like you loose every thing… IRC, e-mail, shortcuts, hacking, feeds, etc.
2013-08-09 22113, 2013
16:57 PM
Lotheric
I just use it when I have a problem with a specific site to compare (or I try with Firefox wihch I have as well)
2013-08-09 22128, 2013
16:57 PM
Lotheric
ouch that's a radical change
2013-08-09 22145, 2013
16:57 PM
jesus2099
because it seems they have dropped everything and they took chromium with an opera logo :/
2013-08-09 22159, 2013
16:57 PM
jesus2099
adding just mouse gestures (from the huge opera feature list) back in
2013-08-09 22121, 2013
16:58 PM
snartal
ok, I zipped it and it worked.... dunno what is up with that.
2013-08-09 22132, 2013
16:58 PM
jesus2099
zipping a jpeg ?
2013-08-09 22142, 2013
16:58 PM
jesus2099
sounds wrong
2013-08-09 22158, 2013
16:58 PM
snartal
Dunno what to tell ya, it worked.
2013-08-09 22116, 2013
16:59 PM
jesus2099
well, ya know…
2013-08-09 22139, 2013
16:59 PM
jesus2099
MBS-6666 !!!!!!!!!!!
2013-08-09 22145, 2013
16:59 PM
jesus2099
HOLY BEAST
2013-08-09 22101, 2013
17:00 PM
flamingspinach
聖獣
2013-08-09 22115, 2013
17:00 PM
jesus2099
ww
2013-08-09 22131, 2013
17:00 PM
jesus2099
↑how31337
2013-08-09 22119, 2013
17:01 PM
jesus2099
flamingspinach: do you have a screen that wide ?
2013-08-09 22129, 2013
17:01 PM
jesus2099
omgbbq
2013-08-09 22138, 2013
17:01 PM
flamingspinach
how wide?
2013-08-09 22143, 2013
17:01 PM
jesus2099
like your picture
2013-08-09 22159, 2013
17:01 PM
flamingspinach
what picture
2013-08-09 22108, 2013
17:02 PM
jesus2099
sorry it’s snartal
2013-08-09 22129, 2013
17:02 PM
jesus2099
why do i keep thinking of you all the time, flamingspinach
2013-08-09 22139, 2013
17:02 PM
flamingspinach
it must be love
2013-08-09 22139, 2013
17:02 PM
jesus2099
?
2013-08-09 22149, 2013
17:02 PM
jesus2099
something like that, maybe
2013-08-09 22100, 2013
17:05 PM
flamingspinach
snartal: you're aware that the artist credit renaming happens in a different numbered edit, right?
2013-08-09 22145, 2013
17:05 PM
kepstin-work
ok, then modbot should be adding a comment linking to those other edits :)
2013-08-09 22152, 2013
17:05 PM
jesus2099
it’s a regression
2013-08-09 22102, 2013
17:06 PM
jesus2099
there’s a ticket
2013-08-09 22114, 2013
17:06 PM
flamingspinach
ah, a regression in the modbot
2013-08-09 22122, 2013
17:06 PM
snartal
flamingspinach: I don't see another edit under my open edits
2013-08-09 22124, 2013
17:06 PM
jesus2099
there was a modbot text to link batch edits
2013-08-09 22116, 2013
17:07 PM
kepstin-work
flamingspinach: in the edit in question, there were no additional artist credit renaming edits generated.
2013-08-09 22120, 2013
17:07 PM
jesus2099
2013-08-09 22134, 2013
17:07 PM
kepstin-work
flamingspinach: even though the user interface made it appear that the artist credits would be changed.
2013-08-09 22145, 2013
17:07 PM
flamingspinach
kepstin-work: oh
2013-08-09 22145, 2013
17:07 PM
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2013-08-09 22156, 2013
17:07 PM
flamingspinach
well, I'm glad that it's not the opposite problem :)
2013-08-09 22112, 2013
17:08 PM
flamingspinach
if I unchecked those boxes and it still edited the artist credits that would suck
2013-08-09 22149, 2013
17:08 PM
snartal
So, if I do a rename artist credits... is there going to be additional modbot edits I will not see under my open edits?
2013-08-09 22104, 2013
17:09 PM
jesus2099
they have changed to be your own edits now
2013-08-09 22109, 2013
17:09 PM
jesus2099
recently
2013-08-09 22142, 2013
17:09 PM
kepstin-work
snartal: all edits generated by you doing things on the website should appear under your account now :)
2013-08-09 22107, 2013
17:10 PM
snartal
ok, because I did a merge artist... all I get is a line which says "Rename Artist Credits Yes"
2013-08-09 22116, 2013
17:12 PM
flamingspinach
2013-08-09 22113, 2013
17:34 PM
bricas
2013-08-09 22137, 2013
17:39 PM
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2013-08-09 22118, 2013
17:54 PM
snartal
Opinions Please: VIAF "Purpose" (listed as a group, with what is on the artist cover as an alternate) ... or Artist Cover "Bam Crawford's Purpose" .. or ... AllMusic/Discogs "Bam Crawford"?
2013-08-09 22145, 2013
17:58 PM
hawke_1
most common as on cover
2013-08-09 22154, 2013
17:58 PM
hawke_1
If they’re always “Bam Crawford’s Purpose” use that
2013-08-09 22133, 2013
17:59 PM
hawke_1
if they’re usually “Purpose” but have a few releases as “Bam Crawford’s Purpose” then artist name “Purpose” with appropriate Artist Credits on the relevant release.
2013-08-09 22147, 2013
17:59 PM
hawke_1
“Bam Crawford” seems wrong if he’s an actual person
2013-08-09 22150, 2013
18:00 PM
hawke_1
(Presumably Bam Crawford would be a member of Bam Crawford’s Purpose though)
2013-08-09 22118, 2013
18:05 PM
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18:08 PM
hawke_1
*she. ;-)
2013-08-09 22102, 2013
18:14 PM
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2013-08-09 22153, 2013
18:23 PM
CallerNo6
one of the things I've had knocking around in the back of my mind is a person/eponymous-band relationship.
2013-08-09 22138, 2013
18:26 PM
snartal
Seems its already there.
2013-08-09 22156, 2013
18:26 PM
CallerNo6
is it?
2013-08-09 22138, 2013
18:27 PM
snartal
Snartal's Really Cool Band is a group, of which Snartal, the artist is a member of.
2013-08-09 22148, 2013
18:28 PM
ianmcorvidae
that doesn't specify that it's an eponymous band specifically
2013-08-09 22155, 2013
18:28 PM
CallerNo6
ah, but this is more than member. it's more like, "any discography of [person] should include the discography of [eponymous band]". Like with e.g. Miles Davis
2013-08-09 22101, 2013
18:29 PM
ianmcorvidae
though it is a reasonable point that 'eponymous' could work as an attribute of member-of
2013-08-09 22143, 2013
18:29 PM
kepstin-work
CallerNo6: wanting a group's releases to show up on an artists page is not the same thing as a group having the name of the artist :)
2013-08-09 22148, 2013
18:29 PM
CallerNo6
agreed, I can't think of why an attribute wouldn't work
2013-08-09 22150, 2013
18:29 PM
kepstin-work
don't confuse the two :)
2013-08-09 22146, 2013
18:30 PM
kepstin-work
if we have an attribute indicating that a group takes its name from an artist, that would be separate from the relationship or attribute that indicates that the group's releases should be shown on the artist page.
2013-08-09 22152, 2013
18:30 PM
ianmcorvidae
one thing that would help here is having a real Person (as reosarevok is fond of asking for) rather than conflating artist and person
2013-08-09 22121, 2013
18:31 PM
CallerNo6
kepstin-work: understood. ianmcorvidae: agreed
2013-08-09 22123, 2013
18:31 PM
ianmcorvidae
(as in, there's the person itself and there's the person's role as a solo artist, and those are different things XD)
2013-08-09 22141, 2013
18:31 PM
ianmcorvidae
not that I'm volunteering to implement any of this crap, of course, but :P
2013-08-09 22104, 2013
18:32 PM
kepstin-work
man, we should just start a world-wide service that assigns every single person a uuid and stores all of their personal information.
2013-08-09 22121, 2013
18:32 PM
ianmcorvidae
:P
2013-08-09 22127, 2013
18:32 PM
CallerNo6
totally. because names are just search hints.
2013-08-09 22130, 2013
18:32 PM
snartal
Yep, scan and chip them at birth!
2013-08-09 22149, 2013
18:32 PM
CallerNo6
:s/names are/language is
2013-08-09 22105, 2013
18:33 PM
kepstin-work
yeah, then you can just use the rfid reader in your phone to find out who you're talking to :)
