yuck. I'd rather see no ETI guideline for recordings.
2013-08-27 23935, 2013
CallerNo6
no offense, I know some people worked hard on getting consensus.
2013-08-27 23958, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
crap. any way to undo a recording merge?
2013-08-27 23905, 2013
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CallerNo6
you can cancel the edit
2013-08-27 23949, 2013
CallerNo6
but if it's already been applied, then there's no shortcut. you'll need to make a new recording (or recordings) from scratch.
2013-08-27 23900, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
it's already thru
2013-08-27 23908, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
i can't even tell wtf I did wrong anymore. looks like I made a new one, 'cause a 'live'recording on a bootleg was using the studio recording, but then they got merged.. probably before my 'live' disambiguation note went through. rgh
2013-08-27 23914, 2013
CallerNo6
but you caught it. cool.
2013-08-27 23915, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
yeah- the live boot was using the same recording as the studio one,so when I added the live stuff to the bootleg, it tagged the wrong recording.
2013-08-27 23927, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
making a new recording for the live boot
2013-08-27 23936, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
still don't know how the hell there's a >6m version of Bye June, though
2013-08-27 23912, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
..which says it's from a demo tape, which should be the <3m studio version
2013-08-27 23928, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
damn bootleg compilations XD
2013-08-27 23915, 2013
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2013-08-27 23916, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
backwards recordings: "is an edit of"?
2013-08-27 23942, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
(ex: "!aaaH-aH, yawA eM ekaT ot gnimoC er'yehT", b-side of "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!")
2013-08-27 23910, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
(literally the same recording, played backwards) XD
2013-08-27 23933, 2013
drsaunde
the most bizarre UK #1 ever
2013-08-27 23943, 2013
drsaunde
Napoleon XIV
2013-08-27 23900, 2013
drsaunde
i would call it a "remix" more than an "edit"
2013-08-27 23936, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
hm.. I consider remixing a much more complicated action
2013-08-27 23950, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
usually involves making many cuts & splices, adding new samples, etc.
2013-08-27 23933, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
just playing it backwards seems like more of an edit.
2013-08-27 23941, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
although MB's definition of "edit" seems to be based on shortening the track length
2013-08-27 23946, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
or censoring some parts
2013-08-27 23906, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
"or a shortened, censored, or otherwise edited version of the same material"
2013-08-27 23917, 2013
th1rtyf0ur
ok, 'otherwise edited' then
2013-08-27 23958, 2013
drsaunde
edit implies something was taken away...not necessarily shortened
2013-08-27 23949, 2013
drsaunde
nothing was taken away in this case, but it was re-arranged...not a typical remix but more so than saying something was removed
A CD with MP3s is a "CD", not "Digital Media"... right?
2013-08-27 23915, 2013
nikki would say yes
2013-08-27 23957, 2013
nikki
(but afaik some people disagree)
2013-08-27 23925, 2013
warp
it is both!
2013-08-27 23943, 2013
kepstin-work
it's certainly not an audio cd, but we don't have any special type just for those
2013-08-27 23948, 2013
nikki
well, for me it refers to the physical format, which is a cd :P
2013-08-27 23909, 2013
kepstin-work
nikki: you must really hate the audio/video dvd formats then :)
2013-08-27 23912, 2013
nikki
(and the subformat things were just there until we supported stuff like that properly, a bit more like discogs)
2013-08-27 23918, 2013
nikki
heh
2013-08-27 23924, 2013
nikki
I don't mind them that much, actually, I just wish we'd actually get round to implementing better stuff :P
2013-08-27 23907, 2013
nikki
I do however dislike that stupid videotape one and putting things like usb stick under digital media :P
2013-08-27 23911, 2013
nikki
anyway, some people have suggested adding a type for cd data stuff, but nobody's proposed it properly afaik
2013-08-27 23913, 2013
kepstin-work wouldn't mind having 'Audio CD' and 'CD-ROM' as media types until we figure out something better.
2013-08-27 23911, 2013
nikki
what happens to the existing cd one? renamed to audio cd and a new cd added?
2013-08-27 23950, 2013
Freso
The two just added as subtypes would be my suggestion.
2013-08-27 23958, 2013
nikki
(I mean, I guess it'd be more correct to add a new audio cd thing, but the amount of data that would need fixing would be terrible)
2013-08-27 23921, 2013
Freso
Anyone have a quick link for the audio book guidelines?
2013-08-27 23944, 2013
kepstin-work
yeah, renaming the current one to audio cd would be the only thing that makes sense
2013-08-27 23946, 2013
Freso
Nvm.
2013-08-27 23903, 2013
Freso
I'm not sure how to read the guidelines.
2013-08-27 23941, 2013
Freso
Should I use "read by" *always*? And should I use the literal "read by" or the localised version of it?
2013-08-27 23907, 2013
Freso
Also "Part N" or the localised version used in the MP3 files themself?
2013-08-27 23924, 2013
reosarevok
Freso: IIRC it does say something like "use whatever the cover uses for join phrase, and if it uses nothing then 'read by' or its equivalent in the appropriate language"
2013-08-27 23930, 2013
reosarevok
Speaking from memory though
2013-08-27 23934, 2013
reosarevok
that's what I'd do anyway :p
2013-08-27 23945, 2013
reosarevok
(and appropriate language for part too
2013-08-27 23946, 2013
reosarevok
)
2013-08-27 23955, 2013
reosarevok
(that it might not say but seems reasonable)
2013-08-27 23924, 2013
hawke_1
nikki: what’s wrong with videotape?
2013-08-27 23933, 2013
nikki
it doesn't fit
2013-08-27 23941, 2013
hawke_1
It doesn’t?
2013-08-27 23950, 2013
nikki
no, that's not how the rest of the list is structured
