It makes no sense to have two levels that cover exactly the same area
2013-08-26 23821, 2013
reosarevok
Where are people born, or where are places? In the district or the city?
2013-08-26 23823, 2013
reosarevok
It's the same :)
2013-08-26 23834, 2013
reosarevok
What is true is that we should probably have multiple types per area :/
2013-08-26 23841, 2013
culinko
yes, but you will keep wikidata structure
2013-08-26 23815, 2013
reosarevok
The wikidata structure is useful most of the time, but if it means complications in MusicBrainz, we should probably care about our users more :)
2013-08-26 23803, 2013
culinko
i don't see any complications
2013-08-26 23807, 2013
reosarevok
Nobody is going to go "but I wanted to link this artist to the district!" (I hope)
2013-08-26 23826, 2013
reosarevok
The complication is that wikidata isn't even consistent
2013-08-26 23843, 2013
reosarevok
It most often has only one page for several entities that cover the same area
2013-08-26 23830, 2013
reosarevok
If they always kept two pages when something like that happens, I might see a point - although it still is confusing for anyone who just wants to list someone as born in Brno
2013-08-26 23846, 2013
reosarevok
But for example where there are several levels in the UK or Spain, you never get two pages
I'm kinda surprised they do have it for Brno actually :)
2013-08-26 23806, 2013
culinko
well i see the consistency. it's the same as in Slovakia. kraje (regions), okresy (districts), mestá (towns/cities)
2013-08-26 23816, 2013
culinko
only exceptions is their capital though
2013-08-26 23831, 2013
culinko
i don't see why there wouldn't be new entry for the city instead of linking both to the district
2013-08-26 23840, 2013
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2013-08-26 23808, 2013
reosarevok
Because we're not a geopolitical database - we care about areas as long as they are useful for music info. And for that, having more than one area covering exactly the same space isn't helpful.
2013-08-26 23825, 2013
reosarevok
If we were trying to display the changes in the political structure of central Europe during time, that would be very useful - but for saying where someone died or was born or where a label or venue is, it provides no useful choice.
2013-08-26 23824, 2013
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2013-08-26 23846, 2013
grtp
Hi, got a quick question... I've resaved some early Stereo MC's albums with Picard, and noticed the apostrophe has been removed from the artist name.
2013-08-26 23857, 2013
grtp
At mb.org it shows the apostrophe in the Artist column for these albums
Anyone any idea why mb.org lists the albums as "Stereo MC�s", but when I save with Picard it uses "Stereo MCs"?
2013-08-26 23847, 2013
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2013-08-26 23808, 2013
derwin
grtp: someone will answer your question if you wait a sec
2013-08-26 23814, 2013
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2013-08-26 23853, 2013
culinko
reosarevok: well, you're right about the geopolitical database. i just think having district as a city is a weird thing, not sure if there will be any improvements on areas in the future, i mean having other relationships than just "has parts" etc.
2013-08-26 23823, 2013
reosarevok
Unsure yet
2013-08-26 23834, 2013
reosarevok
I mean, there's a second one "has anthem" :)
2013-08-26 23837, 2013
reosarevok
But yeah
2013-08-26 23801, 2013
reosarevok
(which *is* one reason that might make it sensible to separate things if they have different anthems, heh :) )
2013-08-26 23834, 2013
reosarevok
grtp: do you have something selected in the options similar to "use standarsised names" or something?
2013-08-26 23825, 2013
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2013-08-26 23833, 2013
grtp
thanks reosarevok! unticking that seems to have done the trick :)
