Same as the ones for adding composers to works and works to recordings
2013-08-22 23442, 2013
jesus2099
this one scares me ↗ :)
2013-08-22 23419, 2013
jesus2099
used it once or twice and i remember closing the tab violently because it gave me impression of launching tons of edits, or something… iirc it was only an impression :D
2013-08-22 23429, 2013
reosarevok
heh
2013-08-22 23442, 2013
reosarevok
Well, it can do that, depends on how many things you relate :p
2013-08-22 23453, 2013
reosarevok
But only does what you ask it to, anyway
2013-08-22 23431, 2013
jesus2099
it seemed to launch edits as soon as you check some lines, but not sure, don’t remember clearly… i work per release so i haven’t test it many times
2013-08-22 23449, 2013
jesus2099
i used the other bitmap work userjs instead (the release based one) :)
2013-08-22 23410, 2013
culinko
reosarevok: how do you edit classical then? editing recordings 1 by 1?
2013-08-22 23438, 2013
reosarevok
Doing it right the first time! :p
2013-08-22 23422, 2013
reosarevok
Nah, I mean, it's rare that the recordings have the right artists already anyway :p
2013-08-22 23434, 2013
reosarevok
So I generally fix the stuff while I change recording artists
2013-08-22 23444, 2013
reosarevok
It's only annoying for multi-composer releases
2013-08-22 23437, 2013
snartal is glad he is not cultured enough to listen to classical music, cause the style guidelines sound super-confusing
2013-08-22 23429, 2013
Mineo
just add classical releases that are so large nobody checks all of it :D
2013-08-22 23423, 2013
culinko
well that's the thing, i don't want to add anything, was just thinking about i might finally start editing the slovak classical releases (just removing feat. from titles, make sure all relationships are present, but it's impossible to edit recordings separately, because classical has to have different artists for tracks and recordings)
2013-08-22 23447, 2013
reosarevok
It's not as bad as it sounds, but it's bad
2013-08-22 23453, 2013
culinko
and editing recordings 1 by 1 is not an option
2013-08-22 23400, 2013
reosarevok
Heh, why not! :p
2013-08-22 23409, 2013
reosarevok
I mean, I'd do the basic things then
2013-08-22 23417, 2013
reosarevok
(so, everything except moving performers to recording artist)
2013-08-22 23430, 2013
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2013-08-22 23426, 2013
culinko
btw. there should be composer+all performers on track, but only composer on recording?
2013-08-22 23455, 2013
nikki
just the composer on the tracks
2013-08-22 23415, 2013
nikki
and performers on the recording
2013-08-22 23444, 2013
culinko
without composer?
2013-08-22 23454, 2013
reosarevok
yeah
2013-08-22 23409, 2013
reosarevok
But that last bit you can leave because it's annoying :p
2013-08-22 23416, 2013
reosarevok
You can just leave composers on recordings too
2013-08-22 23421, 2013
reosarevok
As long as you add the relationships
2013-08-22 23443, 2013
culinko
but if the performers are already on the recording and composer on track, while both have "feat." stuff in title, it's impossible to fix both at the same time, because i can't check "apply track changes on recordings"
2013-08-22 23400, 2013
culinko
damn
2013-08-22 23431, 2013
reosarevok
... someone fixed the recording artists and not the title?
2013-08-22 23434, 2013
reosarevok
Ok, that's dumb :p
2013-08-22 23439, 2013
reosarevok hopes it wasn't himself
2013-08-22 23402, 2013
culinko
that was just an example, don't know if something like that is somewhere out there :P
2013-08-22 23444, 2013
reosarevok
I want to think there's not :p
2013-08-22 23436, 2013
culinko
also, what about RG/release title, composer; performers?
2013-08-22 23438, 2013
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2013-08-22 23408, 2013
reosarevok
I hope you mean artist :p
2013-08-22 23412, 2013
reosarevok
(in that case, yes)
2013-08-22 23446, 2013
culinko
oh yeah, artist
2013-08-22 23424, 2013
albino_
I have a technical question. What's a best way to make photo/scan a medium (CD exacly)? Is it safe for a CD to simply scan and is it in a good quality then?
2013-08-22 23432, 2013
snartal
I've scanned CDs with no issues, with good results.
albino_: yeah, scanning works fine - try to position it on the scanner so that the letters can be read as straight as possible :)
2013-08-22 23424, 2013
albino_
reosarevok, Yeah, right. Thanks for advise.
2013-08-22 23448, 2013
kepstin-laptop
I wouldn't bother positioning it on the scanner in any particular way; just rotate it in an image editor afterwards ;)
2013-08-22 23444, 2013
kepstin-laptop notes that scanners with CCFL lights tend to make nicer-looking medium images than scanners with LED lights.
2013-08-22 23427, 2013
reosarevok
kepstin-laptop: rotating it works if you're going to cut the surrounding white and all that
2013-08-22 23435, 2013
reosarevok
If not it just looks dumb
2013-08-22 23412, 2013
kepstin-laptop is always carefuly to make sure the background is solid white when he rotates, yes :)
2013-08-22 23409, 2013
kepstin-laptop
I usually end up using a levels tool to get the colours right anyways, so I just push the background to pure white while i'm at it. then filling in the holes after rotation is trivial.
2013-08-22 23459, 2013
reosarevok
snartal: that's going to change it on the recording only, yes - to change the track you need to edit the release
2013-08-22 23427, 2013
snartal
So, is this a two edit change? or is there an easy one edit way to do it?
snartal: it is a two edit change, but you can enter the two edits at the same time by clicking the "also change the recording" checkbox in the Recordings tab
2013-08-22 23457, 2013
nikki
kepstin-laptop: but it looks pretty!
2013-08-22 23422, 2013
reosarevok
nikki: looks like something you'd like to have around your phone :p
2013-08-22 23430, 2013
nikki
oh yes! :D
2013-08-22 23432, 2013
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2013-08-22 23404, 2013
kepstin-laptop
hmm. the weather report had a 100% chance of rain for today.
2013-08-22 23408, 2013
kepstin-laptop
they weren't wrong.
2013-08-22 23445, 2013
kepstin-laptop
but yes, that scan ^^ was rotated to make it straight :)
(I can't even use the patterns from musicbrainz directly, because I don't know which attributes are vocal types or instruments or whatever...
2013-08-22 23400, 2013
kepstin-laptop
so I just made a * attribute that gathered up all the things that weren't mentioned anywhere else
2013-08-22 23452, 2013
kepstin-laptop
... that recording has two ars, "lead vocals" and "lead vocals, background vocals" credited to the same person...
2013-08-22 23430, 2013
krono
Hi
2013-08-22 23451, 2013
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2013-08-22 23458, 2013
krono
is there a way to fast-apply edits in a grace period after creating a release?
2013-08-22 23422, 2013
nikki
no
2013-08-22 23423, 2013
krono
that would be helpful to add relations quickly after entering a release,
2013-08-22 23436, 2013
nikki
well, adding relationships show up immediately anyway
2013-08-22 23437, 2013
krono
because that is impossible _during_ the creation process
2013-08-22 23420, 2013
krono
do they? ah, now I see
2013-08-22 23437, 2013
reosarevok
Yeah
2013-08-22 23449, 2013
reosarevok
It would be useful anyway to fix errors, but we don't have it :/
2013-08-22 23455, 2013
snartal
Question: Is there an easy way to make a copy of an existing release in MB, to use as a template to add a different version?
2013-08-22 23419, 2013
reosarevok
More or less
2013-08-22 23425, 2013
nikki
sort of, depending on what you want :P
2013-08-22 23436, 2013
reosarevok goes shower, lets nikki help
2013-08-22 23440, 2013
nikki
pffft
2013-08-22 23456, 2013
nikki
you can click "add release" from a release group page and it will fill in the artist and release group
2013-08-22 23403, 2013
nikki
you'll need to fill in the rest of that tab manually
2013-08-22 23417, 2013
nikki
then on the next tab, you can copy an existing release's tracklist
2013-08-22 23421, 2013
nikki usually wants the first tab to be filled in, so finds it rather suboptimal, but that's all we really have
2013-08-22 23437, 2013
snartal
hmmm, no lookup of title like you can with an artist when entering a release?
2013-08-22 23445, 2013
kuno
snartal: on the tracklist tab you can search for any existing disc to add it to the release
2013-08-22 23426, 2013
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2013-08-22 23408, 2013
snartal
ok, finally figured out how to get rid of the credits box
2013-08-22 23417, 2013
snartal
Was hitting the red x to close it
2013-08-22 23433, 2013
snartal
kuno: don't want to add a disc.... was wondering if it searches recordings like it does artists.
2013-08-22 23444, 2013
kepstin-work
snartal: on the recording tab it does
2013-08-22 23452, 2013
kepstin-work
but not for entering track names
2013-08-22 23414, 2013
kepstin-work
(there is no way to fill in track names from recording names)
2013-08-22 23443, 2013
snartal
Wow, I clicked on the recordings tab to look at that, went back to the tracklist.... all my changes are gone
2013-08-22 23413, 2013
kepstin-work
... that shouldn't happen :/
2013-08-22 23431, 2013
nikki
did you go back in the browser or by clicking on the tracklist tab?
2013-08-22 23412, 2013
snartal
I'm pretty sure I clicked the previous button, but not 100%
2013-08-22 23418, 2013
kepstin-work
never click back in the browser in the release editor unless you know what you're doing ;) (it is *sometimes* useful if you get a server error when submitting, but even that's iffy)
2013-08-22 23410, 2013
snartal
Yea, I must of clicked the back button on the browser
2013-08-22 23427, 2013
nikki
you could try going forwards and then clicking on the tracklist tab
Still here... still working on it.... painfull.... will never do it again.
2013-08-22 23412, 2013
jesus2099
it will ask if you want the same RG or a new RG with same type… everything will be filled-out (including all mediums and AC etc) you only need to modify what has to be modified
2013-08-22 23407, 2013
jesus2099
« nikki usually wants the first tab to be filled in » ← it does that too
2013-08-22 23434, 2013
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2013-08-22 23435, 2013
reosarevok
snartal: it really shouldn't be that hard :/ It's supposed to be easy to just re-use the existing disc and tracklist so that you only need to change whatever's different
2013-08-22 23442, 2013
reosarevok
Is that not working?
2013-08-22 23417, 2013
jesus2099
i thought it was not so easy or so complete… i don’t remember exactly why but i had to code that little release copier
2013-08-22 23419, 2013
snartal
Well, done, I think
2013-08-22 23429, 2013
Kazaam
Hi ! Is it useful to add "remastered" in the disambiguation field for a remeastered release of an album?
reosarevok: ah i remmeber now why i made the copier… not for the first tab although it’s what it adds most obviously… it’s because it was impossible to search too recent releases or somthing like that… don’t rememebr 100%
2013-08-22 23456, 2013
reosarevok
jesus2099: huh? ETI style only makes sense if remastered is on the cover prominently, and I'd argue not even then
2013-08-22 23405, 2013
reosarevok
Oh, that's true :)
2013-08-22 23413, 2013
reosarevok
Add Disc uses indexed search
2013-08-22 23422, 2013
snartal
Well, when you have to shift all the tracks around.. delete the songs that were removed, add the songs, then check them against the recordings...
2013-08-22 23435, 2013
reosarevok
Well, yeah, ok, if it's only very loosely based on the other one, then yes :)
2013-08-22 23458, 2013
jesus2099
snartal: so it’s not that similar ;)
2013-08-22 23405, 2013
reosarevok
Kazaam: in any case, you can relate the two releases as "remaster" of each other with a relationship (which makes sense whether we put it in the disambiguation or not)
2013-08-22 23426, 2013
jesus2099
reosarevok: by ETI i mean that what’s in the comment is between brackets so ETI fits here nicely, doesn’t it ?
