#musicbrainz

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Luks: Seems to go against the MB "Everything out in the open". At least for the the linking part. We should know who put a fingerprint on a recording.

nah, why?

snartal: well, acoustid is not MB, so that's not a problem :)

ithe linking *this and that* to the thing on *mb* maybe, but not the submit to acustid

many people helped build acoustid, but they just do not want to be linked to their submissions

I think that's an acceptable price for having the fingerprints they submitted

maybe i do

norway stupid ?

oh i get it, why some peopel don’t want…

on the contrary i really dream an app like PIcard which could submit all dat info (TOC, ISRC, fingerprints) without having to temp. rip my CD…  :/

but plese not called picard !

 :)

jesus2099: yea

lol picard

yea yea yea I know, it's some fiush thing

i assume that if they called it "findus" I'd feel the way you do

haha exactly !

i would prefer something more cool… like probably something more … UPPERKASE

well, it could be a bit faster, since it only has to rip the first 2 minutes of each song for fingerprinting. but still.

i remember all the way ago with TRM's. inhouseuk had some thing that could get TRMs fro mcd

wow！

but I digress, ia have managed tocure some of my cold so I will work on the kitchen some more

AVE 2022!

good luck

 ?

yea. the kichen is a scary place

blup

AVE 2022 ?

maybe MB-CDNFOKOMANDOR sounds cool

luks: Anyway to my real questions.... it says 5 sources for a particular id... Why would there be 5 sources?

hmm. given the design of the fingerprint algorithm, you could probably get away with using a faster less accurate cd ripping mechanism, and still get decent fingerprints.

could be 5 times the same people with a different pathed CD rip

i never remember what i already did so i usually do this several times for instance

this→things

snartal: it was submitted 5 times, without having the history public you can't really know it's if 5 people or 1 person with 5 identical submissions

So, I can do a submit without doing a check for a match first?

yes

luks: if you implement (yeah) something like public/private settings, will you show everything, just the names of private people will be mosaic

 ?

jesus2099: yes, most likely it will be like that

ok, and regarding the Linked MB part, the one that says sources=5 shows sources=1... why would those # be different?

or you add them sun glasses or something neat like that

snartal: fingerprints can be submitted without MBIDs

so e.g. 4 users submitted just the fingerprint, one user submitted fingerprint+MBID

hey it would be so cool to have a gravater option &sunglasses=1 that would auto-add sunglaasses

kepstin-work: thanks for your thoughts, i’ve just read them (they were lost in many lines, didn’t see them)

it’s my dream app CD2MB ← this name is better

just a submitter, not a tagger

but yes, a cd fingerprinting application is simply a cd ripper that rips the first 2 minutes of each track using a fast/insecure method, fingerprints them (with appropriate settings to pass the file real length along), and then deletes the temp files :/

kepstin-work: with submitting TOC and ISRC too

luks: oh no, i love them too much

kepstin-work: really you read ebooks ?

yep.

I'm slightly annoyed that most of the popular artist only sell on amazon and itunes, which only sells in a few countries

i read pbooks :D

kepstin-work: hm, I thought it would be the other way around.

so I just tend to pirate those

but many bands are discovering bandcamp or have custom eshops

aside from a couple special collectors editions where I got physical hardcopies, I pretty much only buy ebooks now.

luks: but you can buy the cd insead, it’s even better :)

I haven't use a CD in many many years

not sure if I'd have a working CD drive to rip it

you’re a retro-vinyl-guy ?

the digital market in japan has been *really* slow to take off.

cool↗

which is kind of strange, really.

no, it’s good thing

they pirate less, that’s all

I'm not sure if moving to itunes is a progress

well, it was itunes that proved that digital media sales could be a thing for the us market, pretty much.

so I see it as a stepping stone.

kepstin-work: hah, yikes

uh oh that’s even worse yeah… mine is japanese but sold easy digitally but i boycot it… actually if i bought it i would loose it

i only have the CD here http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/e228146b-5...

not these http://musicbrainz.org/tag/it’s%20a%20scandalou...! bonus trucks

luks: I tried to buy an mp3 from amazon.de the other day, only for it to tell me it won't sell me it because I'm not in germany

nikki: forget to turn your proxy off? :)

kepstin-work: nope, I have a british credit card

they work with shpiiing adress

ah :/

and/or my street declared independence without me knowing

what's even worse than amazon not selling me music is the label's website having these kind of stupid restrictions

i can order CD from any amazon

couldn't find any way to buy the latest frontline assembly album

at least i only tried UK and JP

jesus2099: I do not want to wait 2 weeks before I listen to it

amazon has this autorip these days in some of the sites

i’m not so rush to sacrifice on format

I haven't tried it, but it seems kinda cool

i tried it out of curiosity

kepstin-work: does that make you a label? :D

i received an email saying i had this handful of digirtal albums suddenly

(because i bouht those CD sometimes)

reosarevok: nah, I just suggested the site on facebook when she mentioned she was thinking of releasing an album :)

kepstin-work: there are so many stuff called ameagari !

jesus2099: I know, right! :)

kepstin-work: heh, I was like god 100? but it seems those 100 are like 1€ :p

Currencies, stop being confusing!

she included little thank-you notes with the first bunch of albums sold: https://twitter.com/kepstin/status/230269889154... :)

jesus2099: I've bought cds from .uk, .fr, .de, .com and .jp while in a different country so I assume it's the same for them all. I'd try .cn too, but there's quite a bit of a language barrier there :P

there is no barrier for CD… there is barrier for games (got to use other webstites then)

nikki: ↗ indeed

the mp3 stuff is terrible though

yes, sounds terrible

so far my three experiences with it have been 1) buying mp3s for kuno because they wouldn't sell to him, accidentally buying something I didn't want from .com while trying to see if it would let me and not being allowed to buy something I do want because I'm in the right country :P

haha

almost my only experience with mp3 is temp folder

the alternatives were pay more for an m4a from itunes or not buy it at all, so I went with the latter

(applause) good choice

the rest of my mp3s are simply lossy copies of stuff I have as lossless, and I'm steadily moving those to newer formats.

(mostly to save space on my ipod)

i rarely buy software (digital music, programs, etc.) i prefer have it for real… i only bought impulse tracker 2 and EmEditor iirc

heh, I use oggs for my portable player

not sure if having something on a CD makes it real

something digital

luks: it’s real if it’s on CD

but it's a real CD, not a real program :)

for my portable player (well they all have been stolen recently but) i use mono mp3 because i’m deaf one ear :)

hmm. we allow people to submit edits on musicbrainz without confirming an email address?

Heh, yeah, I mean, at least for games, lately even if you have bought it on CD the companies can just block you from using them

that makes no sense.. they can't receive edit note emails

kepstin-work: we shouldn't, but it's notorious for breaking

(I guess if you have it on CD you can at least try to hack around it though)

They can *remove* their email

kepstin-work: I unset that earlier

Oh

and we are having issues getting that user to respond to edit notes :/

that's exactly why I did :P

ah. so you unset their email as a way to stop them from making further edits?

reosarevok: bloecked physical games ?

yes