#musicbrainz

blechx: if you're on linux, you can install from CVS and get something going now.

ruaok, hmm. i just might

follow the picard instructions.

he can install CVS version also on windows :p

you'll need libtp from CVS and picard from CVS.

luks: true, but there are VERY FEW sane people who do that.

yea, i read that :)

Its a massive amount of work.

hmm, whats djce?

Dave Evans

im lookin in daily stapshots now

perfect.

wich one shall i get? the djce one or the non-djce one?

non-djce I think.

luks, its not kind to assume im male ;)

sorry :)

can you tell we don't get many females here?

heh

nikki_, bmaury and yylona come to mind, and that is IT.

sad.

yea, whats up with all hacker girls? :)

not enough hacker girls. ever.

i have a feeling its on the rise tho

btw, i AM male, tho i really think it shouldnt matter, and assuming everyone is male isnt exactly the best way to get girls into hacking :)

lets see now. looking thru INSTALL :)

blame english for not having a commonly used gender neutral pronoun

it sucks, i know

finnish has :)

I gotta go, my computer is being wtf

there are initiatives to use "they" in singularis too, but i find that kinda confusing.

brb

cya

what?

serves him right for using 98...

hehe

what os are you on?

ive heard rumors of debian/gentoo ;)

ubuntu, now.

ah, nice

im gana help my father install that one like tomorrow

he uses ME

but still, I agree ^^

i ordered 30 cds from them, hehe ;)

got them 3 days ago

gana force them onto my non-suspecting friends ;)

stoopid is now known as bootdisk

bbiab

be back in a what?

bit

k :)

building wxPython now :)

wb :)

:_)

wb you too ;)

I DONT USE 98!!

:)

im building wxPython atm

bsides, it was online for 5 days now :p

wow ;)

well ME is better than XP exept for unicode

hehe, what?

if I coudl get ME with unicode I'd be happy :/

only according to you

I don't know..

what *is* it exept for (unicode) thats so bad about ME anyway?

hehe, whats so bad about YOU? ;)

blechx, you're not amusing

ok I gotta sleep anyway

good night

natta

_mo is now known as mo_Zzz

unstable - has a tendancy to leak memory and need to be rebooted after just a few days or weeks. 2k and xp are both easy to keep up for 6-12 months at a time.

only supports fat and fat32, can't use nicer file systems like ntfs

these are all things I don't Know/care about/need

you don't need stable system? :)

yes, that's fine if you don't, but when you say that it's better than xp just because you don't care about the features that make it worse seems a bit silly

I am sorry that because for soem reason I don't understand, my system works fro me when it is betrowed within the entire universe s beign crap that I have to feel ashamed and useless for somethign that does actually work

my system *is* stable

surprisingly stabel

stable

maybe XP is more stable

I don't know

natta mo

the thing is, it also has the stupid userscatalog and settings, you have to register and a bunch of crap that makes it harder to tweak it the way *I* liek it

luks: thanks for the votes :)

no problem :)

lulla is now known as coite

if the XP user interface was more 'one person orientated' I'd probably agree with you

no reason to feel ashamed, but attacking something that's in general a better product just always strikes me as odd

but the several suers and a administratot watchamacallit just bugs me to much

you can have just the administrator account if you want, but that's less secure

same thing on linux, you can have just a single account but it's a bad idea

coite is now known as lulla

because to me, its not a general better product, its made so pleebian neewbie idiots wil lhave a harder time fuckign up their system by deletign something wrong

secure? what so? secure how?

noone else uses my computer but me

but you're on the internet

so?

so the point is you could possibly get infected with a virus or hacked

XP was so full of security leaks they've practically ... erh.. somethign goes here

nobody is interested in my macine to hack its a ME machine afterall ;)

the point of having multiple accounts is that for day to day stuff if you get exploited they won't be able to access enough to do major damage

and my virus program is golden

mo_Zzz: a zombie is a zombie. the people that run botnets with 10000+ PCs dont' care what it's running as long as it's hooked up to the internet

well I've not been hacked sofar

err, and?

I obviusly don't need a sperate account

I was explaining why multiple accounts is a good idea for security, not "has mo been hacked yet?"

I just don't see the need

so stick with Me. I'm not trying to convince you to switch, I'm attempting to explain why 2k/xp are considered better...

the possible benifit does not (for me) outway the irritation / disworkability of havign my files randoly scattered and hard to get by

well ok, that ok

I'm erh.. tryign to explain trhat why I think XP is such crap

if I ever *Do* change OS's

I wil go linux, obvisuly

its' not so much about me loving ME so much that I *hate* XP

we have XP on my school macines and I cant eve nset my freaking homepage

the set homepage is not usefull

heh. see it's the "obviously" that bugs me there as much as the random slagging of xp because you don't need the features it has compared to xp. I don't care what OS people use as long as they're not being zealous about it and bashing others without actually looking at what it does good

mo_Zzz: err, isn't that how they're supposed to be?

I worked as a lab attendant years and years ago, we didn't want people changing anything

since changing was generally step 1 with step 2 being "machine completely fucked up and needs to be reloaded" -_-;

but they've taken it so far to alevel of security that the macine beomes unusable even for usualthings

I'm guessing it's just for light web browsing, email, and typing/printing papers?

like 'save image to desctop'

yes

heh, then I'd say they set it up right :P

cant change printers because don't have admin powers >_<

mo_Zzz, i fail to see how that can be windows XPs fault?

because in mE i can hack that

:DD

if you want to do stuff you're not allowed to then don't blame the OS, figure out how to do it under that OS

yea, security holes is a great feature ;)

you probably can under xp too

ok

now i'm intersted

but it'd be more effort and then there's always the fun risk of expulsion

if they happen to notice you doing it

expulwhatÅ?