#musicbrainz

and mysql

what are your system specs now?

system specs?

could it run on the main server along with perl/mason?

MoinMoin is written in python too, so i think yes

i'm not a wiki guru, but isn't interlinking between two wikis possible?

yes, interwiki

we could setup rules on where you have to put pages (trac wiki, public wiki, wikidocs)

?

if its a style issue, or an RFE it should be on the trac

well, i thinkg trac wiki should be disabled

or read-only

and if it's possible that it will be wikidoc'd, then it should be moinmoin

ok. disabling is possible, too

can it be removed from trac alltogheter?

no

only disabled

ah, the documentation sits there

what about single-signon?

single-signon?

using the user accounts from mb.org

ah, that would be quite difficult

but probably as difficult as in RT

the mb.org accouts are cleartext

we could import them into the tracker

problem with RT is that it doesn't allow anonymous users

yes, for guesscase for example i'd like to add fields where one can submit a bug directly from the edit form

you have the user accounts there

it's really important (same for picard) that you can facilite entering bugs as much as possible

facilitate. or what's the word :P

yes, and that's why i like trac

IRT extensible RT: we don't need a super extensible solution

it's only driving people away if they have to

a) register an account

b) enter super complicated forms

registrations of a new account is not automated :)

so

a) 1. ask someone to create his account, a) 2. someone has to login and create a new account

:)

uh. watch out for RT if you don't need all the features of it.

it's overly complex for bug tracking.

imho.

exactly

the acrobat reader syndrome as i like to call overblown apps

luks: if you have a minute, could you do some code review for me?

sure

the album editor in the UnobstructiveJS-BRANCH

i'm playing around with table-less layout

i guess you are more a css expert than i am :)

..but i'm learning

well, not an expert... but coding xhtml/css is my daily job :)

i'd like to do xhtml

(generally)

oh well, something is broken

on which page?

no page, my linux machine is broken

i've added language/script to the album editor, this is something i'd like you to look at

the 'Show Full Lists' button is missing there

jup

luks: I would like to help with a portuguese translation for picard

oh, great

I just mailed you about a possible finnish translation too

yeah, i just read it. so i'd need you to translate this file - http://www.fi.muni.cz/~xlalinsk/mb/picard.pot

you can use http://www.poedit.org/ if you want some more user friendly gettext editor :)

here are some examples of picard translations - https://helixcommunity.org/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs....

alrighty

and once you have a translation, you can mail me it, i'll compile it, send it back to you and then you can copy the compiled version to your picard directory to test it

thanks. I was having doubts about the better way to translate "clustered", but looking at yours DE translation, I think I got it cleared out.

or you can install this http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/gettex...

I can do proof-reading :P

Heh, no "lappeen Ranta" allowed? ;)

one more thing, what about ~^`´?

use any characters you want :)

I'm asking because I got this on your translation: msgstr "Hintergrundfarbe f�r gute �bereinstimmung"

that's because it's in different encoding

nah... Firefox messed up with the character enconding

:)

ok. let's get it started.

also on the BBC news site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4441928.stm

Is anyone here awake, I've got a query

it all depends who you need

http://www.vampire-magazine.com/bands/xmas_proj... <-- Now, if that was added to MB, would it need each and every instrumentalist/vocalist added to it to show who performed on what, and if os how?

hmmm

I have no idea if projects such as this are handled as a band

or a group actually

Well they've made several releases heh

if it were up to me, I would add the project as a group and then AR the performing individuals into it, and maybe add an annotation as well

but you better wait for someone elses answer :p

I think I'll do that :P

Well from listening to it, it sounds rather crappy anyhow :P

haha

They seemed to have got some of the most established/better instrumentalists, but tonedeaf vocalists :\

Knio-sleep is now known as Knio-school

hi there

hello.

is there a query to go from artist guid to artist rowid?

am i blind?

(and album and track, too)

hi luks

hi

moin donredman :)

moin

good job!

what?

trackgroup

sorry, i thought this was obvious :)

That was five hours of work ~:-|

4hrs of it making the wiki do what you want?

and pressing "refresh" every ten minutes :-)

i've tried for a sec to envision a UI that allows user to enter these

no way

I hate the refresh thing

they have to be grouped so that it's less entities

i never trust a browser window

i even write mails in an editor and paste it if i'm done

ditto

opera caches the content of forms so I can always go back

i've lost an e-mail once in a browser crash after 30minutes

IIRC there was a backup feature enabled in the old wikidocs Moin

do you remember?

i never got fit with the old wiki

I really want Robert to add the dot parser to the wiki. This way we could finally start to talk about OML diagrams and not about tables anymore

still: we'll have to make sure we don't go to far in terms of realization

that's two pairs of shoes

thinking in tables is bad, because it makes you focus on the way you want things to be ordered and not the way things _are_ focussed

er ordered