#musicbrainz

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      • nechto13 joined the channel
      • nechto13
        hello everyone
      • Shepard
        if it's not listed like this on the cover, leave it out i say
      • hi nechto13
      • SenRepus
        yo nechto
      • im pretty tired of (feat.)
      • yllona
        gurt. this whole "feat." thing is wrong
      • GURT
        who isn't?
      • yllona: i agree 100%
      • just have to wait untill that whole thing settles
      • nechto13
        i'm against featuring as well. who's for it? let's fight :)
      • GURT
        i dont think applying lead vocal to a track by that artist really does anything
      • teleGUISE
        yeah.. feat might be/is wrong but also so many releases list it that way though too
      • GURT
        i sang lead vocal on my solo cd
      • Shepard
      • GURT
        that just seems kind of redundant
      • yllona
        well jessi's mods are correct from the standpoint of the actual CD credits artist, and "business of music". MB is th eproblem here
      • GURT
        then write to md-users and mb-style
      • teleGUISE
        how long has that been around??
      • yllona
        yeah, my mail to mb-style is three pages long and growing :P
      • GURT
        i would put NGDB - songtitle and just add an AR for Suzy whatshername
      • jessifan
        by the time this much arguing over a mod takes place, you stop caring about it!
      • GURT
        growing is good.
      • yup
      • jessifan
        i'm just trying to keep it accurate...aren't we all? geez
      • i know lord of the flies
      • GURT
        if you put Suzy B performed lead vocal i'd vote for it
      • yllona
        jessifan: here's a compromise: suzy lead vocal, NGDB background vocal.
      • teleGUISE
        wonder if 59,900,000 got lucky cuz they voted that way or was it that 11,800,000 people don't have one ;)- http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB...
      • yllona
        add'l notes in the album annotation field
      • GURT
        NGDB vocal is implied
      • jessifan
        why would i do that? it's a duet. it's not just her taking control of the song
      • the lead singer of the dirt band sings a verse too
      • and yes, i could put it in like that, but then everyone would be doing that for band/artist duets
      • GURT
      • yllona
        dual lead vocal then.. one for suzy one for lead singrof NGDB. sorry
      • GURT
        i think they already do
      • the lead singer of the dirt band sings a verse too
      • aadd the lead singer
      • jessifan
        and the dirt band for background vocal, since they're also on the track?
      • yllona
        gurt, and it;s wrong
      • GURT
        and add him doing lead vocal as well
      • yllona
        jessifan: yes
      • SenRepus
        tele were you responsible for "My girl friend" vs "mop"?
      • teleGUISE
        Sen: didnt see that one... seems to fall under the same as - http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB...
      • nechto13
        sen: no i was
      • SenRepus
        lol
      • jessifan
        let's watch someone vote down the new mod too, yllona
      • someone will dare to
      • teleGUISE
        HEY! what up with that gurt
      • SenRepus
      • GURT
        Shepard told me to leave it until you recognized it :)
      • Shepard
      • teleGUISE
        your both asshats :P
      • GURT
        i dont have more than one asshat
      • teleGUISE
        1,118 people are really bored and lonely
      • SenRepus
        ?
      • i can always just pull a "Sen" on google fight and beat any of your guys's names
      • Shepard
        "we are aaaall individuals.." - "no! I'm not!"
      • teleGUISE
        I meant where did these 1,118 people come up with idea to vote on that
      • SenRepus
        vote on what?
      • oh
      • wait what?
      • nechto13
        sen: you can't beat me, cause i beat everyone http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB...
      • SenRepus
      • nechto13
        sen: that's cheating, my name is nechto13 ;)
      • SenRepus
        46 results
      • lo
      • l
      • teleGUISE
        enclose it in quotes
      • SenRepus
        "it"
      • muz?
      • Muz
        What?
      • SenRepus
        did you like teh faint
      • shup tele
      • Muz
        You asked yesterday, and the answer was yes, you even suggested to me what ones to acquire and to avoid Media
      • SenRepus
        yesyes but i was wondering if your opinion changed or you liked the other stuff you heard
      • sorry to ask, jeez
      • Muz
        Sorry, just in an incrediby sour mood, so don't mind me
      • SenRepus cuddles muz. for a second. then goes back to mo.
      • teleGUISE
        ok... take that to the MushBrainz channel
      • Shepard
        that would be the mushroom then?
      • nechto13
        i recently heard that wikipedia plans to qualify some entries as stable and everything else as live, shouldn't MB follow suit at some point in the future?
      • teleGUISE
        :) slow.. but good one
      • Shepard
        sorry didn't have my daily dose of bad puns yet
      • SenRepus
        budum tssss
      • teleGUISE
        you mean and become as slow and inconsistent... I think we're there aren't we :P
      • Shepard
        nechto13: there were ideas about "closing" albums long before wp did that
      • nechto13
        i was talking more about artists, then albums, but that probably should be done to albums as well
      • Shepard
        and we had several ideas about a wiki-like editing system, with different revisions and stuff, on the summit
      • teleGUISE
        I think locking should be done on every mod I make... that would simplify things :)
      • SenRepus
        funny
      • Shepard
        so in the future you may have a system here where everyone at any time can edit textfield data without it going to vote. and then you can lock data and after that every change needs a vote
      • teleGUISE
        locking has it advantages.. but many things arent that critical thats its a necessity
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      • Shepard
        tell inhouseuk that :)
      • hi dupuy
      • dupuy
        'lo
      • SenRepus
        im in bed now, again, bye
      • Shepard
        cu
      • teleGUISE
        I can understand inhouse's point and agree.. cuz people who especially pay don't want data to say 1 thing today and another tomorrow and yet another next week ..
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      • A simple lock would suffice in many cases... just like when having a disc id by not allowing add & remove track edits.. I would almost like to see that option removed completely.. cuz there really isnt a reason for it now.. Just add it correctly from the get go and call it done
      • nechto13
        i suggest locking against voted down mods, so that no one can relpicate them, or on album imports, which are already in MB that have the same track listing. something like that, if not the complete locking mechanism
      • teleGUISE
        Although looking it only accounts for 202 open edits..
      • Shepard
        that's much more complicated
      • teleGUISE
        which include Data track removals and nat adds
      • Shepard
        and the definition of duplicate is fuzzy
      • nechto13
        Shepard: i was just thinking that
      • nevermind
      • teleGUISE
        we kind of have that now.. (album import) fuzzy match.. though a very (bad) generic one
      • I think our list of 'Data' in various languages should be last track checked when freedb imports are made... a simple coding addition that would alleviate the stupidly redundant Data track removal edits
      • or my even easier to implement suggestion (but dont help the noobz) allow you remove the darn things before importing them.. Still think that is dumb that we cant edit freedb imports... I dont even bother using them now with the COOL PARSING action
      • GURT
        can't edit freedb imports??
      • teleGUISE
        clarify: add - remove tracks
      • whole point of freedb (was) to simplify things and save typing though with all the crap it has usually creates more typing
      • now if I need something with + or - tracks of a freedb entry I just c&P and then parse it
      • heres 30+ votes to clear up some data/video track removals - http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?...
      • GURT
        ah
      • i think it'd be cool if mb submitted revisions to freedb.. then no one would be importing the same CDs that have been 'fixed' over and over
      • teleGUISE
        sure they would.. cuz its whatever one they grab first... and since freedb will keep them all nobody will sort through them
      • GURT
        freedb dosen't keep revisions
      • it overwrites them
      • as long as they are submitted via something taht supports revisions
      • teleGUISE
        True.. which the most commonly used stuff 'doesn't afaik what I mean though.. is if there are 10 versions of and 1 is MB correct there still is the possibility that the other 9 would be used..
      • unless you revise the other 9 as well..
      • GURT
        revise the other 9 :P
      • teleGUISE
        but than thats kind of working to fix freedb and not MB
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        Shepard` is now known as Shepard
      • teleGUISE
        it amazes me that people that arent concerned with MB and just want to tag their data still go through trouble of downloading the tagger, setting up an account, importing some freedb junk into mb.. tagging there crap...
      • dont these nimbots know they can just download a tagging program and type it themselves faster?
      • Shepard
        night
      • teleGUISE
        Night shepster
      • yllona
        g'night shep
      • teleGUISE
        hmm... 24hrs till d-day for yllone ;)
      • yllona
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      • tw
        ok, the wiki formatting or annotations feature is done now.
      • CamelCase links will actually go to the wiki now.
      • tw is now known as ruaok
      • ruaok
        heh
      • that was the most rewarding thing I've coded all week.
      • gtg
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      • yllona
        teleGUISE: in some parts of the world it's Ilona, Ilone, and just pain helen
      • teleGUISE
        pain ;)
      • yllona
        i answer to allof them