20:18 PM
HairMetalAddict
The goth version, that is. ;-)
20:18 PM
nikki_
yalaforge: that's easy enough
20:18 PM
HairMetalAddict pictures them singing, "It's fun to stay at the M-O-R-G-U-E!"
20:18 PM
yalaforge agrees with both HMA and nikki :-)
20:19 PM
you can send your own headers with header() and if it's the web server saying it's latin1, that's hardly php's fault ;)
20:20 PM
luks
and also send <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" ... for stupid browsers like MSIE
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ruaok
ok, back to work. sugar mama has flowers and wine galore.
20:23 PM
yalaforge
hey
20:23 PM
ruaok
moin
20:23 PM
mustaqil_
It's a trap!
20:32 PM
yalaforge
ruaok: did you decide which license you want for the python ws bindings?
20:33 PM
ruaok
I thought about it for 10 seconds before I got interrupted again. :-)
20:35 PM
GPL or BSD?
20:36 PM
yalaforge
LGPL vs BSD, I'd say. GPL is too restrictive, IMHO
20:36 PM
yalaforge can live with either one
20:37 PM
ruaok
but using the LGPL for code that doesn;'t get compiled? Does that even make sense?
20:37 PM
yalaforge
python code is compiled, there are .pyc files all over the place :-)
20:38 PM
ruaok
yes, but you don't tote around .pyc files and link them to other stuff as you do with .so or .dll
20:38 PM
yalaforge
BSD.
20:38 PM
;-)
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20:39 PM
yalaforge is confused about this, and if I am, I'm not the only one
20:40 PM
Jetpack
you should be able to put any licence on any code regardless of whether its compiled or interpreted
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ruaok
BSD works fine. I'm starting to get creeped out by RSM and his inflexible rants.
20:42 PM
gah!
20:42 PM
ruaok hopes he didn't piss yalaforge off
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20:48 PM
Jetpack
wow there really is an artist called Bram Tchaikovsky
20:51 PM
ruaok
can I get some yes votes on all this crap please?
20:51 PM
20:51 PM
ruaok has to fix that frackin bug
20:53 PM
luks
ruaok: already fixed
20:55 PM
ruaok
the merge artist AR bug?
20:55 PM
if so, how did you do it?
20:56 PM
luks
yes, AR merging now works for all artist, albums and tracks
20:57 PM
20:57 PM
20:57 PM
+ some code in Artist.pm and Album.pm
21:01 PM
ruaok
wow. very cool!
21:01 PM
thanks sooo much!
21:02 PM
Jetpack
how can you tell whether a string from a submitted form contains non-latin characters?
21:02 PM
ruaok
depends on the encoding. utf-8
21:03 PM
its easy to tell if string contains non-ascii characters
21:04 PM
Jetpack
i must check the style guidelines of the sortname
21:04 PM
maybe it will tell me exactly what characters are acceptable for sortname
21:05 PM
ruaok
utf-8 :)
21:05 PM
luks
sortnames should contain only latin characters
21:07 PM
Jetpack
do these to characters count as latin? ��
21:07 PM
to=2
21:07 PM
luks
yes
21:08 PM
HairMetalAddict
Question for the AR afficianados here (sent to me in a last.fm PM, I dunno how to respond since I don't touch ASINs, edited for clarity):
21:08 PM
2) What about when there's a (bonus disc) that was only available for certain releases (such as the first pressing)?"
21:08 PM
(I'm guessing the second question means when the limited edition bonus disc is no longer available for purchase.)
21:09 PM
luks
1) to both
21:09 PM
2) ASIN of a release with the bonus disc
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ruaok
21:10 PM
luks
so if it's a limited edition and no longer available for purchase it shouldn't have an ASIN
21:10 PM
HairMetalAddict
Yeah. For #2, I think it means it was a "limited edition" bonus disc, and is no longer availble with any listed versions
21:10 PM
Ah, yeah.
21:11 PM
ruaok
21:11 PM
HairMetalAddict
Okay, I'll pass it on, thanks.
21:17 PM
Jetpack
when you Browse Artists are you browsing the name or sortname?
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nikki_
Jetpack: sortname
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Jetpack
I suppose if you put in a symbol it uses the actual name ?
21:44 PM
nikki_
hm?
21:44 PM
Jetpack
if you put in a symbol in browse artists you get a lot of other-language characters which aren't supposed to be in a sortname
21:44 PM
nikki_
yes
21:45 PM
that's where I go for easy mods :P
21:48 PM
Jetpack
do some artists not have a sortname?
21:48 PM
or does it just not display on some of them?
21:48 PM
nikki_
some artists have a sortname the same as their name
21:49 PM
so it's not displayed
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21:55 PM
Jetpack
i suppose there's no need for latin translations in the sortname of all the japanese names
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nikki_
well, yes
21:56 PM
how will we sort them otherwise?
21:58 PM
Jetpack
yes we do need them or yes we dont?
21:58 PM
nikki_
yes we do
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luks
in picard i assume they are all in latin and use them as "translations"
22:00 PM
nikki_
there aren't that many that need fixing
22:00 PM
Jetpack
how many is "not that many" ?
22:01 PM
oh its only like 200
22:02 PM
nikki_
1220 using characters outside of latin1, 302 using characters outside of latin1 and latin extended-a
22:02 PM
and 221139 artists altogether
22:03 PM
Jetpack
ok cool
22:08 PM
nikki_ grumbles as she removes yet more U+200Es from artist names
22:09 PM
luks
sorry :(
22:09 PM
nikki_
it's ok
22:09 PM
ruaok
phew. hosting contract negotiated. we'll be on the hook for $900/month starting in 07.
22:09 PM
nikki_
I can only assume that people are copying and pasting and getting them stuck in there
22:10 PM
Jetpack
900 a month????
22:13 PM
nikki_
22:13 PM
ruaok
Jetpack: yup. bandwidth is expensive.
22:13 PM
that is for 10 servers and 3mbit sustained.
22:15 PM
warp
ruaok: ouch.
22:15 PM
ruaok
we gotta admit the fact that we're no longer a small project.
22:15 PM
warp
indeed.
22:15 PM
warp had no idea :)
22:16 PM
ruaok
we're doing 800K fingerprints in a day. over 1M web service calls in a day.
22:16 PM
nikki_
hooooly crap
22:16 PM
ruaok
and mind you we're doing that with THREE servers.
22:16 PM
when I tell that to people, their eye bug out.
22:18 PM
Jetpack
what speed is it at at the moment?
22:19 PM
nikki_
oh damn! I was trying to work out what was wrong with "Apina, Alеna", since xterm shows it all fine...
22:20 PM
ruaok
Jetpack: we're using about 1mbit sustained.
22:26 PM
Jetpack
there's 2 x tchaikovsky's thats annoying
22:27 PM
ruaok: MB is mostly text so i thought that wouldn't be much bandwidth
22:28 PM
ruaok
Jetpack: its partially the old web service. it always sends too much data.
22:28 PM
thus me humping on getting the new WS out the door.
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brunft
22:31 PM
chocomo
the xhml one?
22:31 PM
did I say that right?
22:31 PM
nikki_
xml
22:31 PM
chocomo
bah
22:31 PM
heh
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22:31 PM
SenRepus
himo!
22:31 PM
chocomo
22:31 PM
hisen
22:32 PM
yay. math
22:32 PM
SenRepus
my computer isgonna freeze, back in 3 minutes
22:32 PM
chocomo
I understand ƒ(x)=x²+2x+3 now
22:33 PM
baisen
22:33 PM
duh ƒ(x)=y wtf didn't I get that before
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22:34 PM
Jetpack
can anyone confirm if this CD exists?
22:34 PM
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chocomo
22:38 PM
chocomo wonders if http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=308996 and http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=128154 are the same despite the last track being named different. the tracktimes are nearly identical
22:40 PM
nikki_
maybe the names mean the same
22:40 PM
chocomo
that's what I was thinking
22:47 PM
ojnkpjg
it's crap data, anyway
22:47 PM
creates bogus artists, doesn't have performer info, doesn't follow style guidelines
22:48 PM
chocomo
no vote?
22:49 PM
ojnkpjg
i voted no